[tpm] [Fwd: Re: Vim turns 30 today!]

[Mike Stok]

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On November 3, 2021, Alex Beamish <talexb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I started using an IBM PC for development in Fall of '85; to begin, I
> used a terrible editor called XTC from a company called Wendin. They
> claimed to be able to shell out to run make, but it didn't work. I
> moved to a much better editor called Brief from (heh) Underware. That
> editor was super fast, and it did allow me to shell out to run make --
> my first IDE. Like Indy, I used the Lattice C compiler -- expensive,
> but it worked great. After that, I used the Turbo C IDE to write code
> -- only $99 (or something), and it had an editor, compiler, make,
> linker and debugger all packaged to work together. Amazing value.
>
> Before that, in the early 80's, I used EDT on a VAX/VMS, while some of
> the hard-core guys used TECO, which was essentially a line editor.
>
> Like Indy, the late development details of the 70's and early 80's are
> a little vague for me. I would learn about a new system by using
> whatever editor was available, and I would get shown how to build, run
> and debug stuff. Picking up a new environment was just what you were
> used to doing. I do remember in the mid 90's discovering an awesome
> linker (an alternative to the slow Microsoft product) called Blinker
> -- it was lightning fast. Loved that product. I also used 4DOS in the
> late 80's, a command.com <http://command.com> replacement that gave
> you command line editing (the kind of stuff that's standard in bash).
> It made using the DOS command line so much easier.
>
> Alex
>


> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Indy Singh <indy at indigostar.com
> <mailto:indy at indigostar.com>> wrote:

> What did people use 31 years ago before Vim?
>
>  Text editing is always a fascinating subject to me.
>
>  I know in the 70's I used paper tape and punch cards. Then an IBM
> mainframe
>  online editor called Electric.
>
>  In 1980 I wrote my own editor in Fortran to run on a Teradyne
> minicomputer.
>  There was some sort of online edit on PDP minicomputers.
>
>  The 80's are a bit hazy now. That's when IBM Pc's came out.  After
> some
>  head-scratching I recall I used the Lattice C compiler, which was
>  Microsoft's first C compiler.
>
>  In the 90's it was a Modula 2 IDE, along with Microsoft's Visual
> C/C++ IDE.
>
>  Indy Singh
> www.indigostar.com <http://www.indigostar.com>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: arocker at Vex.Net
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:44 AM
>  To: Toronto PerlMongers
>  Subject: [tpm] [Fwd: Re: Vim turns 30 today!]
>
>
>  How many lines of great code have been created with Vim's help since
> then?
>
>  ---------------------------- Original Message
> ----------------------------
>
>  Date:    Wed, November 3, 2021 3:48 am
>  To:      vim_use at googlegroups.com <mailto:vim_use at googlegroups.com>
>
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>
>  On 2021-11-03 15:21, Yegappan Lakshmanan wrote:
>  > <https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/ql30pm/vim_turns_30_today/>
>  >
>  > Happy 30th Birthday!!! Thanks Bram.
>
>
>
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