[tpm] [Fwd: Re: Vim turns 30 today!]

Wed Nov 3 11:27:37 PDT 2021

ed

ed is the Standard Text Editor

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/E/ed.html
https://wiki.c2.com/?EdIsTheStandardTextEditor

  From: patl at athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
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  When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
  *and* Emacs are just too damn slow.  They print useless messages like,
  'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'.  So I use the editor
  that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

  Ed, man!  !man ed

  ED(1)		UNIX Programmer's Manual		ED(1)

  NAME
	ed - text editor

  SYNOPSIS
	ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
  DESCRIPTION
	Ed is the standard text editor.
  ---

  Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
  alphabetically, but because it's the standard.  Everyone else loves ed
  because it's ED!

  "Ed is the standard text editor."

  And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair.  Just look:

  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root	      24 Oct 29  1929 /bin/ed
  -rwxr-xr-t  4 root	 1310720 Jan  1  1970 /usr/ucb/vi
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  5.89824e37 Oct 22  1990 /usr/bin/emacs

  Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
  Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
  message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
  and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

  "Ed is the standard text editor."

  Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

  golem> ed

  ?
  help
  ?
  ?
  ?
  quit
  ?
  exit
  ?
  bye
  ?
  hello?
  ?
  eat flaming death
  ?
  ^C
  ?
  ^C
  ?
  ^D
  ?

  ---
  Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
  generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
  the novice with verbosity.

  "Ed is the standard text editor."

  Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

  ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
  AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
  BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
  SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

  When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
  help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
  Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
  ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

  TEXT EDITOR.

  When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
  "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
  you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.

  Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
  are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
  not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
  SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
  FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

  ?

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:06 PM Mike Stok <mike at stok.ca> wrote:

> Before vim? vi ��
>
>
> --
> The *stok disclaimers* apply.
>
> mike at stok.ca / mike at stok.co.uk / mike.stok at hey.com
> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/
>
> On November 3, 2021, Alex Beamish <talexb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I started using an IBM PC for development in Fall of '85; to begin, I used
> a terrible editor called XTC from a company called Wendin. They claimed to
> be able to shell out to run make, but it didn't work. I moved to a much
> better editor called Brief from (heh) Underware. That editor was super
> fast, and it did allow me to shell out to run make -- my first IDE. Like
> Indy, I used the Lattice C compiler -- expensive, but it worked great.
> After that, I used the Turbo C IDE to write code -- only $99 (or
> something), and it had an editor, compiler, make, linker and debugger all
> packaged to work together. Amazing value.
>
> Before that, in the early 80's, I used EDT on a VAX/VMS, while some of the
> hard-core guys used TECO, which was essentially a line editor.
>
> Like Indy, the late development details of the 70's and early 80's are a
> little vague for me. I would learn about a new system by using whatever
> editor was available, and I would get shown how to build, run and debug
> stuff. Picking up a new environment was just what you were used to doing. I
> do remember in the mid 90's discovering an awesome linker (an alternative
> to the slow Microsoft product) called Blinker -- it was lightning fast.
> Loved that product. I also used 4DOS in the late 80's, a command.com
> replacement that gave you command line editing (the kind of stuff that's
> standard in bash). It made using the DOS command line so much easier.
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Indy Singh <indy at indigostar.com> wrote:
>
> What did people use 31 years ago before Vim?
>>
>> Text editing is always a fascinating subject to me.
>>
>> I know in the 70's I used paper tape and punch cards. Then an IBM
>> mainframe
>> online editor called Electric.
>>
>> In 1980 I wrote my own editor in Fortran to run on a Teradyne
>> minicomputer.
>> There was some sort of online edit on PDP minicomputers.
>>
>> The 80's are a bit hazy now. That's when IBM Pc's came out.  After some
>> head-scratching I recall I used the Lattice C compiler, which was
>> Microsoft's first C compiler.
>>
>> In the 90's it was a Modula 2 IDE, along with Microsoft's Visual C/C++
>> IDE.
>>
>> Indy Singh
>> www.indigostar.com
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arocker at Vex.Net
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:44 AM
>> To: Toronto PerlMongers
>> Subject: [tpm] [Fwd: Re: Vim turns 30 today!]
>>
>>
>> How many lines of great code have been created with Vim's help since then?
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Wed, November 3, 2021 3:48 am
>> To:      vim_use at googlegroups.com
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On 2021-11-03 15:21, Yegappan Lakshmanan wrote:
>> > https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/ql30pm/vim_turns_30_today/
>> >
>> > Happy 30th Birthday!!! Thanks Bram.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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