[Wellington-pm] IDEs round-the-room

Florent Mara florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz
Fri Jun 23 16:25:47 PDT 2017

After Komodo and Kate, I am now using Sublime.
Komodo does a lot but changes regularly and one of the updates broke the
mini-map so I moved onto Kate and never looked back.

Kate / Sublime are 'powerful text editors' for me. Probably not too
dissimilar to notepad++. Sublime seems to be very configurable - providing
you have the time - and has Perl specific plugins available.

IntelliJ is used quite a lot around me for Perl or others.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Dan Horne <dan.horne at redbone.co.nz> wrote:

> I'm one of those rare people who prefers an IDE. At my current workplace I
> use Notepad++, but that's because I'm not allowed to install software
> myself, and development isn't my primary job anymore. I love Komodo and the
> debugger. Stepping through code, setting breakpoints and inspecting
> variables is much more preferable to the way I work than scattering print
> statements. I have identified bugs in CPAN modules because I step through
> all code, and not having to sprinkle print in other's code is a bonus.
> The downsides: it's not cheap. ActiveState keeps changing the UI and this
> throws me with each update. Once I find a way of navigating and working I
> don't want to change. I've actually downgraded to v7 because that's the UI
> I prefer and I see no reason to upgrade again.
> The upsides for me, besides the debugger integration. It's multi-language,
> multi-platform (I use Linux, Mac and Windows) and I can add macros that can
> be invoked with keystrokes such as formatting my code with Perl Tidy. It
> integrates with source control, can save remotely (via SSH), identifies
> syntax errors in real time. As I said, I prefer to use an old version, but
> there are a host of newer features in the latest version (
> https://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/features)
> I won't include screenshots - you see them in the ActiveState site, and
> you can download a trial from there.
> Dan
> P.S. On a side note, I used Xarka's OptiPerl 15 years ago when I was
> working in the UK. It's Windows only, and I doubt it's been updated since
> then. But it will have all the features you'd probably ever want, including
> realtime syntax checking, and debugging. Plus it's only US$39 for a
> personal licence. http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html
> On 23 June 2017 at 21:35, Peter Kelly <perlmonger at pck.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi mongers,
>> Could we have a round-the-room about IDEs?
>> But as I sit here this balmy winter night, I find myself reading through
>> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488 which talks about integrated
>> debugging in an IDE.
>> I do my Perl coding mostly in Windows this month for bizarre reasons,
>> such as that I can't get Linux to drive my 4K monitor on my hardware.  I
>> use Notepad++, which highlights most keywords nicely and offers variable
>> auto-completion.  But it doesn't have Perl debugger integration.
>> I see from that comment that Eclipe is supposed to be the answer to the
>> maiden's prayer.  I haven't forgiven it yet for being a dog more than a
>> decade ago.
>> Padre appears to be a dead duck - there is no activity on the IRC
>> archives, or mailing list, and it won't compile from CPAN.
>> I note a mention of the topic from Grant in his list message of Tue, 16
>> Jun 2009 14:27:27
>> Would it be annoying if I asked people to share a screen-shot of their
>> IDE?
>> On an unrelated note, is there any easy way to localise (deep-copy) an
>> array of hashes?
>> Peter
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