[Wellington-pm] IDEs round-the-room

Steve Piner Steve.Piner at signify.co.nz
Sun Jun 25 13:48:21 PDT 2017

I like Eclipse with EPIC for Perl work. Key features for me: easy 
reformat with PerlTidy, Perl::Critic annotation, and the debugger. 
Function completion is nice when it works, but it doesn't seem to work 
that often.


I have seen Eclipse become unresponsive from time to time, and it is 
quite heavy on the memory. I still prefer it over the text editors I've 
tried (Atom, Code).


On 24/06/17 11:25, Florent Mara wrote:
> After Komodo and Kate, I am now using Sublime.
> Komodo does a lot but changes regularly and one of the updates broke 
> the mini-map so I moved onto Kate and never looked back.
> Kate / Sublime are 'powerful text editors' for me. Probably not too 
> dissimilar to notepad++. Sublime seems to be very configurable - 
> providing you have the time - and has Perl specific plugins available.
> IntelliJ is used quite a lot around me for Perl or others.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Dan Horne <dan.horne at redbone.co.nz 
> <mailto:dan.horne at redbone.co.nz>> wrote:
>     I'm one of those rare people who prefers an IDE. At my current
>     workplace I use Notepad++, but that's because I'm not allowed to
>     install software myself, and development isn't my primary job
>     anymore. I love Komodo and the debugger. Stepping through code,
>     setting breakpoints and inspecting variables is much more
>     preferable to the way I work than scattering print statements. I
>     have identified bugs in CPAN modules because I step through all
>     code, and not having to sprinkle print in other's code is a bonus.
>     The downsides: it's not cheap. ActiveState keeps changing the UI
>     and this throws me with each update. Once I find a way of
>     navigating and working I don't want to change. I've actually
>     downgraded to v7 because that's the UI I prefer and I see no
>     reason to upgrade again.
>     The upsides for me, besides the debugger integration. It's
>     multi-language, multi-platform (I use Linux, Mac and Windows) and
>     I can add macros that can be invoked with keystrokes such as
>     formatting my code with Perl Tidy. It integrates with source
>     control, can save remotely (via SSH), identifies syntax errors in
>     real time. As I said, I prefer to use an old version, but there
>     are a host of newer features in the latest version
>     (https://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/features
>     <https://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/features>)
>     I won't include screenshots - you see them in the ActiveState
>     site, and you can download a trial from there.
>     Dan
>     P.S. On a side note, I used Xarka's OptiPerl 15 years ago when I
>     was working in the UK. It's Windows only, and I doubt it's been
>     updated since then. But it will have all the features you'd
>     probably ever want, including realtime syntax checking, and
>     debugging. Plus it's only US$39 for a personal licence.
>     http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html
>     <http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html>
>     On 23 June 2017 at 21:35, Peter Kelly <perlmonger at pck.co.nz
>     <mailto:perlmonger at pck.co.nz>> wrote:
>         Hi mongers,
>         Could we have a round-the-room about IDEs?
>         But as I sit here this balmy winter night, I find myself
>         reading through http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488
>         <http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488> which talks about
>         integrated debugging in an IDE.
>         I do my Perl coding mostly in Windows this month for bizarre
>         reasons, such as that I can't get Linux to drive my 4K monitor
>         on my hardware.  I use Notepad++, which highlights most
>         keywords nicely and offers variable auto-completion.  But it
>         doesn't have Perl debugger integration.
>         I see from that comment that Eclipe is supposed to be the
>         answer to the maiden's prayer.  I haven't forgiven it yet for
>         being a dog more than a decade ago.
>         Padre appears to be a dead duck - there is no activity on the
>         IRC archives, or mailing list, and it won't compile from CPAN.
>         I note a mention of the topic from Grant in his list message
>         of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:27:27
>         Would it be annoying if I asked people to share a screen-shot
>         of their IDE?
>         On an unrelated note, is there any easy way to localise
>         (deep-copy) an array of hashes?
>         Peter
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