[tpm] Why perl lost steam...

[Dave Doyle]

Hey Jordan,

Actually, I have no actual experience with Strawberry Perl or Catalyst on
windows.

I have setup a CGI::App system using ActiveState Perl and Apache2 on windows
back in the day.  My knowledge is severely outdated now.  My suggestion of
Strawberry was purely from reading.

>From what I understand, Strawberry Perl is superior to ActiveState in that
it has the full stack of tools needed to compile modules (as opposed to
precompiled PPM packages, of which ActiveState maintains and incomplete
archive of CPAN).  If I recall, ActiveState wasn't able to package some
things because of licensing (Crypt::SSLeay I think). I've not played with it
though.  I've only ever deployed Catalyst on Linux/Solaris but we're using
the latest and greatest 5.8.x series to get the Moosey goodness.  I'm afraid
you'd have to experiment.  I've no idea how to get Strawberry Perl to play
nice with IIS if that's your server (we used the ISAPI plugin to IIS from
Activestate) so you may want to try Apache2.  I don't know what other
alternatives you have at the moment.

D



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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, J Z Tam <jztam at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave,
> IIRC,  you had mentioned that on WindoZe server OS,  it would be
> easier/doable to set up Catalyst using Strawberry Perl.  If  so, which
> versions of each are working for you?
> Thanks in advance.
> Jordan
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/21/10, Dave Doyle <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dave Doyle <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tpm] Why perl lost steam...
> To: "Martin at Cleaver.org" <Martin at cleaver.org>
> Cc: "Toronto Perl Mongers" <tpm at to.pm.org>
> Received: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:14 AM
>
>
> While I do believe Perl has lost steam in the publics eye, I don't buy the
> hype.  CPAN is growing faster and faster (it's a curve).  This year's YAPC
> had about 70% of folk going to their first or second YAPC.  The ecosystem
> itself is doing just fine.
>
> That being said, I've looked and Django and Rails and they ain't my thing
> (neither is Catalyst for that matter).  But there are other options like
> Mojolicious and Dancer and as far as I'm concerned CGI::App still gets the
> stuff done.  I think Dancer would be an excellent way for newbies to get
> started in webdev in Perl.
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Martin at Cleaver.org <Martin at cleaver.org<http://mc/compose?to=Martin@cleaver.org>
> > wrote:
>
> I'd contend that building a Web app in Groovy on Grails is where beginners
> should start.
>
> Grails is one (not several competing) Web Framework, Groovy is Java and
> J2EE compliant, yet a scripting language with closures and implicit parallel
> programming support. Together they give you scripting access to all the J2EE
> components developed over the past decade while hiding the crappy
> verboseness of XML and Java.
>
> Building a Web App? As much I know and like Perl I wouldn't start a new Web
> App in one.
>
>
> M.
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:36 AM, <arocker at vex.net<http://mc/compose?to=arocker@vex.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Bill Stephenson <bills at ezinvoice.com<http://mc/compose?to=bills@ezinvoice.com>
> >
> > wrote:
>
> >> It would seem that right now, when "Web Apps" are really coming into
> >> their own, CGI scripts written in Perl would be the place that
> >> "Beginners" would start looking.
> >>
>
> But CGI is sooo '90s, and even Web apps are passe now; it's all
> smartphones.
>
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