<div>Hey Jordan,</div><div><br></div><div>Actually, I have no actual experience with Strawberry Perl or Catalyst on windows. </div><div><br></div><div>I have setup a CGI::App system using ActiveState Perl and Apache2 on windows back in the day. My knowledge is severely outdated now. My suggestion of Strawberry was purely from reading.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From what I understand, Strawberry Perl is superior to ActiveState in that it has the full stack of tools needed to compile modules (as opposed to precompiled PPM packages, of which ActiveState maintains and incomplete archive of CPAN). If I recall, ActiveState wasn't able to package some things because of licensing (Crypt::SSLeay I think). I've not played with it though. I've only ever deployed Catalyst on Linux/Solaris but we're using the latest and greatest 5.8.x series to get the Moosey goodness. I'm afraid you'd have to experiment. I've no idea how to get Strawberry Perl to play nice with IIS if that's your server (we used the ISAPI plugin to IIS from Activestate) so you may want to try Apache2. I don't know what other alternatives you have at the moment.</div>
<div><br></div><div>D</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>--<br clear="all"><a href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, J Z Tam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jztam@yahoo.com">jztam@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Dave, <br>IIRC, you had mentioned that on WindoZe server OS, it would be easier/doable to set up Catalyst using Strawberry Perl. If so, which versions of each are working for you?<br>
Thanks in advance. <br>Jordan<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 9/21/10, Dave Doyle <i><<a href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">
<br>From: Dave Doyle <<a href="mailto:dave.s.doyle@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [tpm] Why perl lost steam...<br>To: "Martin@Cleaver.org" <<a href="mailto:Martin@cleaver.org" target="_blank">Martin@cleaver.org</a>><br>
Cc: "Toronto Perl Mongers" <<a href="mailto:tpm@to.pm.org" target="_blank">tpm@to.pm.org</a>><br>Received: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:14 AM<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div><div>While I do believe Perl has lost steam in the publics eye, I don't buy the hype. CPAN is growing faster and faster (it's a curve). This
year's YAPC had about 70% of folk going to their first or second YAPC. The ecosystem itself is doing just fine.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That being said, I've looked and Django and Rails and they ain't my thing (neither is Catalyst for that matter). But there are other options like Mojolicious and Dancer and as far as I'm concerned CGI::App still gets the stuff done. I think Dancer would be an excellent way for newbies to get started in webdev in Perl.</div>
<div><br></div>--<br clear="all"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=dave.s.doyle@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.s.doyle@gmail.com</a><br>
<br><br><div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Martin@Cleaver.org <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=Martin@cleaver.org" target="_blank">Martin@cleaver.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
I'd contend that building a Web app in Groovy on Grails is where beginners should start.<br><br>Grails is one (not several competing) Web Framework, Groovy is Java and J2EE compliant, yet a scripting language with closures and implicit parallel programming support. Together they give you scripting access to all the J2EE components developed over the past decade while hiding the crappy verboseness of XML and Java.<br>
<br>Building a Web App? As much I know and like Perl I wouldn't start a new Web App in one.<div><br><br>M.<br clear="all">--<br>Martin@Cleaver.org<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/mrjcleaver" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mrjcleaver</a><br>
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<br><br></div><div><div></div><div><div>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:36 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=arocker@vex.net" target="_blank">arocker@vex.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
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> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Bill Stephenson <<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mc/compose?to=bills@ezinvoice.com" target="_blank">bills@ezinvoice.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
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</div><div>>> It would seem that right now, when "Web Apps" are really coming into<br>
>> their own, CGI scripts written in Perl would be the place that<br>
>> "Beginners" would start looking.<br>
>><br>
<br>
</div>But CGI is sooo '90s, and even Web apps are passe now; it's all smartphones.<br>
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