[tpm] Why perl lost steam...

[J Z Tam]

Dave,  
IIRC,  you had mentioned that on WindoZe server OS,  it would be easier/doable to set up Catalyst using Strawberry Perl.  If  so, which versions of each are working for you?
Thanks in advance. 
Jordan

--- On Tue, 9/21/10, Dave Doyle <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dave Doyle <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [tpm] Why perl lost steam...
To: "Martin at Cleaver.org" <Martin at cleaver.org>
Cc: "Toronto Perl Mongers" <tpm at to.pm.org>
Received: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:14 AM

While I do believe Perl has lost steam in the publics eye, I don't buy the hype.  CPAN is growing faster and faster (it's a curve).  This year's YAPC had about 70% of folk going to their first or second YAPC.  The ecosystem itself is doing just fine.

That being said, I've looked and Django and Rails and they ain't my thing (neither is Catalyst for that matter).  But there are other options like Mojolicious and Dancer and as far as I'm concerned CGI::App still gets the stuff done.  I think Dancer would be an excellent way for newbies to get started in webdev in Perl.

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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Martin at Cleaver.org <Martin at cleaver.org> wrote:

I'd contend that building a Web app in Groovy on Grails is where beginners should start.

Grails is one (not several competing) Web Framework, Groovy is Java and J2EE compliant, yet a scripting language with closures and implicit parallel programming support. Together they give you scripting access to all the J2EE components developed over the past decade while hiding the crappy verboseness of XML and Java.



Building a Web App? As much I know and like Perl I wouldn't start a new Web App in one.

M.
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:36 AM,  <arocker at vex.net> wrote:


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> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Bill Stephenson <bills at ezinvoice.com>

> wrote:



>> It would seem that right now, when "Web Apps" are really coming into

>> their own, CGI scripts written in Perl would be the place that

>> "Beginners" would start looking.

>>



But CGI is sooo '90s, and even Web apps are passe now; it's all smartphones.



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