[sf-perl] [meeting] Perl + MongoDB => Mongoers + Fun
matt at lanier.org
Mon Jun 6 21:01:05 PDT 2011
my apologies, folks, for not noting that the video i posted wasn't safe
for work with a [NSFW] tag.
On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Greg Lindahl wrote:
> In the search engine space, 'web scale' means that you index billions
> of pages. The video is funny, but when the SQL guy starts talking
> about how SQL works great for 99.9% of companies, I think, "Yes, and
> I'm in the 0.1%, that's what web scale means."
> I'll venture to bet that most people define 'web scale' according to
> their personal experiences. Which makes it difficult to talk
> about. Petabyte of data? That's a nice ante for the web scale game.
> As for your comments about new technologies, yes, almost everything in
> CS is recycled. It can be very useful to to study the technologies
> you're reinventing.
> -- greg
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:01:58PM -0700, Dan Keller wrote:
>> I agree with Matt's question -- I think we're both stuck on the
>> tortured English syntax -- by "web scale" I'm guessing they
>> mean "scale the web app from supporting dozens of users
>> to millions" (what every web app provider dreams of!)
>> and with Josh's comment, too -- this isn't the first non-relational
>> DBMS nor even the first document-oriented DBMS.
>> Josh probably has a specific technology in mind and I can
>> think of some, too.
>> Most "new" technologies in each generation are, conceptually,
>> not new (older generations did similar things) but have new
>> names and new "syntactic sugar" (as one of my CS profs
>> used to call it.) In this case, the idea is that relational DBMSs
>> are not the best tool for every job. Obviously. But they are a
>> mature technology. Also obvious.
>> Just my $0.02.
>> Dan Keller
>> dan at keller.com
>> +1 (415) 861-4500
>> On 6/6/2011 4:08 PM, Matthew Lanier wrote:
>>> is mongoDB "web scale"?
>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/11 1:16 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:
>>>>> MongoDB is a new document-oriented database. It provides a new
>>>>> paradigm for storing and accessing data, one that works very naturally
>>>>> with Perl.
>>>> Actually, it's a very old paradigm. Goes back to around 1963.
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