[sf-perl] [meeting] Perl + MongoDB => Mongoers + Fun

Greg Lindahl greg at blekko.com
Mon Jun 6 19:43:37 PDT 2011

In the search engine space, 'web scale' means that you index billions
of pages. The video is funny, but when the SQL guy starts talking
about how SQL works great for 99.9% of companies, I think, "Yes, and
I'm in the 0.1%, that's what web scale means."

I'll venture to bet that most people define 'web scale' according to
their personal experiences. Which makes it difficult to talk
about. Petabyte of data? That's a nice ante for the web scale game.

As for your comments about new technologies, yes, almost everything in
CS is recycled. It can be very useful to to study the technologies
you're reinventing.

-- greg

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:01:58PM -0700, Dan Keller wrote:
> I agree with Matt's question -- I think we're both stuck on the
> tortured English syntax -- by "web scale" I'm guessing they
> mean "scale the web app from supporting dozens of users
> to millions" (what every web app provider dreams of!)
> and with Josh's comment, too -- this isn't the first non-relational
> DBMS nor even the first document-oriented DBMS.
> Josh probably has a specific technology in mind and I can
> think of some, too.
> Most "new" technologies in each generation are, conceptually,
> not new (older generations did similar things) but have new
> names and new "syntactic sugar" (as one of my CS profs
> used to call it.) In this case, the idea is that relational DBMSs
> are not the best tool for every job. Obviously. But they are a
> mature technology. Also obvious.
> Just my $0.02.
> -- 
> Dan Keller
> dan at keller.com
> http://www.dan.keller.com
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> On 6/6/2011 4:08 PM, Matthew Lanier wrote:
>> is mongoDB "web scale"?
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs>
>> m@
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>> On 6/3/11 1:16 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:
>>>> MongoDB is a new document-oriented database. It provides a new
>>>> paradigm for storing and accessing data, one that works very naturally
>>>> with Perl.
>>> Actually, it's a very old paradigm.  Goes back to around 1963.
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