http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/cus/people/ Which ones have you used? I didn't see Pilot, Logo, or rc in there :) -- -- -- -- Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus James Choate jameschoate at austin.rr.com james.choate at twcable.com 512-657-1279 www.ssz.com Adapt, Adopt, Improvise -- -- -- --