[Van-pm] January van.pm meeting

[Jesse Sherlock]

I have tried both and have to say that i really appreciate the extras
that catalyst brings. CGI::Application is really only half the
framework that catalyst is, not in terms of quality, just in terms of
scope, that can either be good or bad.

For rapid application development catalyst wins hands down, it does
however bring alot of behind the scenes magic to the table, that means
it's much more complex (CGI::Application without any plugins is very
very simple) and slower as well.

They really are different solutions for different problems, if you
need a fast, lightweight framework because you have huge amounts of
traffic then cgi::application or no framework at all are your best
choice. If this isn't the case then it's Catalyst all the way.

-JS

On 1/27/06, James.Q.L <shijialeee at yahoo.com> wrote:
> catalyst looks really HOT! especially the discusstion on mailing list.
>
> I am wondering if anyone here tried CGI::Application and Catalyst. It looks like CGI::Application
> doesn't offer much feature except a simple framework to have many developers work together easily.
> I am trying to learn CGI::Application and hope it is worth the time comparing to learning
> Catalyst.
>
> James.
>
> --- Alex Pavlovic <alex.pavlovic at taskforce-1.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Luke Closs wrote:
> > >>Catalyst is already passe.  Jifty is what all the cool kids are using
> > >>now (it's true - I asked them).
> >
> > Jifty is tied to a specific templating system, if you want to use for example
> > TT, there is lot of hacking to be done to make this work. Even worse it uses
> > HTML::Mason which in my opinion is horrible way to do your presentation. But
> > I guess if you are looking for something quick and dirty, then this might be
> > down your alley.
> >
> > Not sure If I fully could understand you why is Catalyst passe ? Catalyst
> > development has been going strong and steady for quite some time, go onto
> > mailing lists or irc channel. It's far more flexible in my opinion then
> > jifty. It's not tied into anything specific. It comes with variety of
> > plugins, models and views to help you get things done in sensible manner. I
> > recently completed ajax based web application with catalyst using models I
> > wrote for it, and I am glad it was done in catalyst. Flow control / dispatch,
> > auth with acls, sessions were some of the things that were a breeze.
>
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