[tpm] Why perl lost steam...

Stuart Watt stuart at morungos.com
Tue Sep 21 11:14:03 PDT 2010

  Ok, I didn't know Grails *was* Groovy + Spring + Hibernate + Tomcat. 
Now I do, I'd say it's probably a good framework, but I'm not sure it's 
really any simpler than Catalyst. And that's saying something.

The quickest web apps I've ever developed used HTTP::Daemon. Seriously, 
can it get any simpler than:
OK, so Dancer and Mojolicious both come close, but they also immediately 
impose stuff on you.

For learning, there is a lot to be said for this approach. A framework 
is just more stuff to learn, and while they are useful because they hide 
nasty web complexity, this makes it harder to see what's going on.

stuart at morungos.com

On 9/21/2010 12:13 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 September 2010 15:47:39 Martin at Cleaver.org wrote:
>> I'd contend that building a Web app in Groovy on Grails is where beginners
>> should start.

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