[tpm] Careeer Opportunity

[Michael Graham]

For the record, if you're a recruiter and want to send a Perl related
job posting to the list, just send it to the list!

If you're not subscribed to the list, the message will be
temporarily delayed until the list moderator (which is currently me) can
read it and approve it.

But if it's actually Perl-related it will go through in a day
or two.


Michael


On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:15:51 -0400
Madison Kelly <linux at alteeve.com> wrote:

> "I have recently come across this user group during my search"
> 
> So you did, I apologize then.
> 
> Please be aware though, many of us are systems administrators as well
> as perl programmers. Dealing with spam is something of a "big deal",
> so sending an email to a large number of specific users on the
> mailing list gets people's radar going.
> 
> What you should have done, for future reference, is to find out who
> the owner/moderator of the mailing list is and contacted them
> directly. Ask that person what the ML's policy is on job
> advertisements and how you could proceed. It shows that you respect
> our group.
> 
> I still stand by the statement that you should really take the time
> to see what projects each of us has done and sent content-specific
> emails to each of us. It would certainly take more of your time, but
> I suspect you would have gotten a *much* more positive response.
> 
> For the record, I am CC'ing this reply to the mailing list; partly to 
> make my appology public and to continue this thread, which started 
> publicly, in a public manner.
> 
> Madi
> 
> PS - Spell checking your subject line is a good idea, too. ;)
> 
> Jack Ponte wrote:
> > Wow...didn't expect that sort of feedback. I'm sorry for disturbing
> > your day. I have no idea how that e-mail was deceptive in any way
> > I CLEARLY stated that I came across the user group (obviously
> > online) and gave you the opportunity to find out more about the
> > opportunity I have on hand by contacting me directly. How is that
> > deceptive? It's obviously a PERL opportunity......
> > What does "I would skirt this guy, personally" mean???? 
> > Please understand that I like you, am just trying to do my job and
> > earn a living. I meant no harm and I do apologise again for
> > disturbing your busy day.
> > 
> > Keep well!
> > 
> > Jack Ponte, ACIR, CIR
> > Recruitment / Executive search
> > BullsEye! Human Capital Solutions Inc.
> > 416.575.4434
> > jponte at bullseyehc.com 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Madison Kelly [mailto:linux at alteeve.com] 
> > Sent: July-18-08 11:49 AM
> > To: Jack Ponte
> > Cc: uri at stemsystems.com; indy at indigostar.com; 'Tom Legrady'; 'Adam
> > Prime'; 'Michael Graham'; 'Alex Beamish'; 'Dave Rolsky'; 'Richard
> > Dice'; 'Jim Graham'; 'James.Q.L'; 'Herman Anker'; 'Fulko Hew'; 'Lev
> > Piaseckyj'; 'Mark Fowle'; 'Emil Janev'; 'Omid Gulban'; 'Olaf
> > Alders'; 'jason richmond' Subject: Re: Careeer Opportunity
> > 
> > Jack Ponte wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> My name is Jack Ponte and I am a recruitment/HR consultant with 
> >> Bullseye! Human Capital Solutions Inc. I have recently come across
> >> this user group during my search for a Perl developer.
> >>
> >> Maybe some of you might be a suitable candidate for a position
> >> that I am currently trying to fill.
> > 
> > This guy sent me a very similar message back in February. When I
> > asked him *where* he came across my name, he had no answer.
> > 
> > I'm fine with head hunters. I am *NOT* fine with deceptive head
> > hunters. I would skirt this guy, personally.
> > 
> > To Jack:
> > 
> >    Please give us some credit. If you really want to fill
> > positions, be straight up and either spend some time looking at
> > what each of us has done and reference that in individual emails
> > *OR*, at the very least, say that you came across our group and are
> > looking in general for people who want work in Perl.
> > 
> > A jaded Madi
> > 
> > PS - Message he sent me in Feb., for reference:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > My name is Jack Ponte and I am a recruitment consultant with IQ
> > Partners Inc. I have recently come across your contact information
> > online and I feel that you might be a suitable candidate for a Perl
> > Developer position that I am currently trying to fill.
> > 
> > If you are interested in discussing this matter in further detail, 
> > please send me an updated copy of your resume and an appropriate
> > time to contact you. If you are not able to entertain this
> > opportunity for what ever reason, I would appreciate your referring
> > me to any other candidates that you may know with your similar
> > background.
> > 
> > I look forward to hearing from you.
> > 
> > 
> 
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Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>