SPUGsters, Can I ride with you to the meeting tonight? I'm car-less tonight, and it's a 1 hr bus ride. If you're going for Pho before the meeting, mo bettah. I live in Ballard, but could easily bus to Freemont, or Magnolia to meet you. Thanks, Michael Wolf 206-782-8377 Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net