[San-Diego-pm] jobs available, going unfulfilled

Nicholas Wehr pm at bionikchickens.com
Fri Sep 24 11:19:03 PDT 2010

interesting comment, though way off topic. we're discussing why jobs are
going unfulfilled - I'm certain it's not because of your multithreaded
issue. of course you will find pros and cons of each language, including
perl. but really - why do you think its so hard to find skilled people in
san diego?


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, r l <tamp4xstealth at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Java can scale with more ease and has better memory sharing/threading
> support.  Take in the case where you have to write a multithreaded realtime
> server (one thread per incoming client) that uses one DBI connection amongst
> many detached threads ... it is impossible with out doing all your SQL
> queries in the initial process or forking. Sure you can use a "pool" but you
> run into the same problem again once you peak the pool.  Java does have its
> limitation too, that is when you go the erlang route....
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Nicholas Wehr <pm at bionikchickens.com>
> *To:* Chris Radcliff <chris_radcliff at mac.com>
> *Cc:* san-diego-pm at mail.pm.org
> *Sent:* Fri, September 24, 2010 9:48:37 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [San-Diego-pm] jobs available, going unfulfilled
> I've also heard recently that companies doing M&A diligence will put a
> higher valuation on Java (specifically) than on a "scripting language". I
> have written, and continue to write, huge systems in Perl and find this
> statement to be disturbing to the core of my being. If this is true, it may
> impact our choice of platform and those of other companies who have
> acquisition in mind as a real exit strategy.
> Of course I have no evidence to support this statement; I was hoping
> somebody here could comment on the validity of this claim?
> regards,
> -nw
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Chris Radcliff <chris_radcliff at mac.com>wrote:
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> > Gautam> Yeah, the company I'm in is rewriting everything in Java from
>> Perl. It
>> > Gautam> was because the Senior Designer thought it would be easier to
>> find
>> > Gautam> good Java developers, then Perl developers.
>> >
>> > This is exactly what I'm hoping to avoid, because it's a step backward
>> > for humanity.
>> I work for a company that's doing the opposite. We have a few older
>> systems written in other languages, but we're migrating them to Perl because
>> our engineers all know it and use it regularly.
>> That said, I do think Perl hasn't kept up with some of "hot stuff"
>> languages like Python and Ruby in terms of frameworks, which are the first
>> line of contact for many new programmers. Want to use GAE? Learn Python or
>> (*shudder*) Java. Wonder what this Rails business is about? Learn Ruby.
>> Wordpress plugins? PHP. The language itself is becoming a commodity item,
>> chosen as a side effect of the application environment.
>> ~chris
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