[Phoenix-pm] job opening

[Bill Nash]

Too late. Expect another job posting soon.

- billn

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Bill Nash wrote:

>
> Innocence-lost, indeed. =) I gotta stop posting before my manager checks
> his mail and fires me.
>
> - billn
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, jnf wrote:
>
> > Hrm. I think as of next week, I work with you Bill.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Bill Nash wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:25:43 -0700 (MST)
> > > From: Bill Nash <billn at billn.net>
> > > To: Scott Walters <scott at illogics.org>
> > > Cc: phoenix-pm at pm.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Phoenix-pm] job opening
> > >
> > > On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Scott Walters wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey billn. Always good to see your text. I take it as a compliment that
> > > > you consider my banter worthy of a reply.
> > >
> > > You're in a great minority. Most people see me post and go 'dear god, what
> > > now?!' =)
> > >
> > > > But that's moot. My real complaint was something I'd rather hint at than say:
> > > > my jobs were banal. Of the dozens of "ecomm" websites I slaved away to
> > > > create under deadline, only one is still online. The other companies folded.
> > >
> > > But these aren't *your* fault, as much as they are the property of poor
> > > management of a product fielded by people obviously incapable of wielding
> > > the tools you provided. It's not just you, it happens in more than just
> > > the tech industry.
> > >
> > > > However, it all has a happy end: I work on things I consider interesting anyway,
> > > > and I consider a diet rich in ramen a small price to pay for the privilege.
> > >
> > > Again, this is as much the product of finding decent managers who can take
> > > what you provide and make things Suck Less(tm). I like the work I do, and
> > > while sometimes things Suck More(tm), it's always entertaining trying to
> > > push them in the other direction. I've been largely lucky, with only a
> > > few past exceptions, in finding managers with the technical ability
> > > to effectively manage technical workers.
> > >
> > > There will always be bad managers and crappy executives, and people in
> > > decision making roles who clearly don't belong there. This is a basic
> > > truth of any industry run by humans. Call it Tao, Zen, whatever, once you
> > > accept that it's as inevitable as death, the rest is simply routing around
> > > the fault.
> > >
> > > > It's nice to be able to boo the demons of the 8-5 job with my fellow
> > > > Perl Mongers. Re: Darwin, it's true I probably won't have any kids smelling
> > > > bad and not having money, so you're right. I can't argue with that.
> > >
> > > I can't say, "Don't let this defeat you," since I've been there. I've been
> > > the burnout victim, broken by bad management and bullshit political
> > > wrangling. While I can't offer a solution, I can say, it gets better. Even
> > > statistically, you can't stay down forever.
> > >
> > > - billn
> > >
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