[Melbourne-pm] Dancing around the event horizon

John Kaye jkaye29 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 23:31:17 PDT 2015


Thanks Kal and Tim for trying to get PM going tonight.
But I won't be coming in to Perl Mongers, sorry.

I am at home in Glen Waverley and I don't feel like coming in on a cold
night for a small turnout.

Maybe next month.

Cheers,
John


John Kaye

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Kahlil Hodgson <
kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au> wrote:

> Might be a bit cold outside at the Mitre and space inside is limited on
> Wednesdays. Another option might be the Savoy Tavern on the corner of
> Spencer and Bourke Streets.  Thoughts? Opinions?
>
>
> Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson                       GPG: C9A02289
> Head of Technology                         (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382
> DealMax Pty Ltd                            GitHub: @tartansandal
>
> Suite 1416
> 401 Docklands Drive
> Docklands VIC 3008 Australia
>
> "All parts should go together without forcing.  You must remember that
> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
> means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>
> On 10 June 2015 at 11:29, Tim Connors <tim.w.connors at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yep.  Where we go?
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
>>
>> > I'm keen if anyone else is.
>> >
>> >
>> > Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson                       GPG: C9A02289
>> > Head of Technology                         (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382
>> > DealMax Pty Ltd                            GitHub: @tartansandal
>> >
>> > Suite 1416
>> > 401 Docklands Drive
>> > Docklands VIC 3008 Australia
>> >
>> > "All parts should go together without forcing.  You must remember that
>> > the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
>> > if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
>> > means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>> >
>> > On 9 June 2015 at 17:41, John Kaye <jkaye29 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > Has a decision been made about a Perl Mongers meeting for tomorrow
>> > > (Wednesday) night?
>> > >
>> > > If it is going ahead, will it be at the Mitre Tavern or will FastMail
>> be
>> > > hosting the evening?
>> > >
>> > > I am able to come this month and will attend if we have a meeting.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > John Kaye.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Kahlil Hodgson <
>> > > kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> On 5 June 2015 at 20:58, Peter Lawrence <pml540114 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> However, every single one of these faces those same political
>> problems
>> > >>> of acceptance, and many don't have fully optimised implementations
>> > >>> either.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> ​I remember a colleague raving about Forth about 8 years ago, but I
>> never
>> > >> had a chance to look into it.  There are so many interesting
>> languages to
>> > >> choose from these days. I managed to find an hour or two to play with
>> > >> clojure on the weekend and had a great time. I just wish I could
>> justify
>> > >> exploring all these options during my working hours.  Perhaps ironic
>> that I
>> > >> may have the freedom to do just that once we get the funding that's
>> forcing
>> > >> us to use Python.
>> > >>
>> > >> The major realization for me is that my ability to make technical
>> > >> decisions is governed, not by my ability to make sound arguments,
>> but by
>> > >> whatever social and political power I can muster.  If I head up the
>> > >> technology for a successful company, I gain a lot of power to make
>> > >> decisions.  Even if the success of the company has nothing to do with
>> > >> technology. Even if the company succeeded despite relying on inferior
>> > >> technology.  Once I'm there, business people are less likely do
>> dismiss my
>> > >> arguments just be cause they conflict with sentiments alluded to by
>> the
>> > >> Financial Review or touted by their favourite "tame geek".
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ​
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>>
>> --
>> Tim Connors
>>
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