<div dir="ltr">Thanks Kal and Tim for trying to get PM going tonight.<div>But I won't be coming in to Perl Mongers, sorry.</div><div><br></div><div>I am at home in Glen Waverley and I don't feel like coming in on a cold night for a small turnout.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe next month.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>John Kaye</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Kahlil Hodgson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kahlil.hodgson@dealmax.com.au" target="_blank">kahlil.hodgson@dealmax.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Might be a bit cold outside at the Mitre and space inside is limited on Wednesdays. Another option might be the Savoy Tavern on the corner of Spencer and Bourke Streets. Thoughts? Opinions?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br><font face="monospace, monospace">Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson GPG: C9A02289<br>Head of Technology (m) +61 (0) 4 2573 0382<br>DealMax Pty Ltd GitHub: @tartansandal<br><br>Suite 1416<br>401 Docklands Drive<br>Docklands VIC 3008 Australia<br><br>"All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that<br>the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,<br>if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all<br>means, do not use a hammer." -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925</font></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 June 2015 at 11:29, Tim Connors <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim.w.connors@gmail.com" target="_blank">tim.w.connors@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Yep. Where we go?<br>
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On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:<br>
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> I'm keen if anyone else is.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Kahlil (Kal) Hodgson GPG: C9A02289<br>
> Head of Technology (m) <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29%204%202573%200382" value="+61425730382" target="_blank">+61 (0) 4 2573 0382</a><br>
> DealMax Pty Ltd GitHub: @tartansandal<br>
><br>
> Suite 1416<br>
> 401 Docklands Drive<br>
> Docklands VIC 3008 Australia<br>
><br>
> "All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that<br>
> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,<br>
> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all<br>
> means, do not use a hammer." -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925<br>
><br>
> On 9 June 2015 at 17:41, John Kaye <<a href="mailto:jkaye29@gmail.com" target="_blank">jkaye29@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > Has a decision been made about a Perl Mongers meeting for tomorrow<br>
> > (Wednesday) night?<br>
> ><br>
> > If it is going ahead, will it be at the Mitre Tavern or will FastMail be<br>
> > hosting the evening?<br>
> ><br>
> > I am able to come this month and will attend if we have a meeting.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > John Kaye.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Kahlil Hodgson <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:kahlil.hodgson@dealmax.com.au" target="_blank">kahlil.hodgson@dealmax.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >> On 5 June 2015 at 20:58, Peter Lawrence <<a href="mailto:pml540114@gmail.com" target="_blank">pml540114@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> However, every single one of these faces those same political problems<br>
> >>> of acceptance, and many don't have fully optimised implementations<br>
> >>> either.<br>
> >>><br>
> >><br>
> >> I remember a colleague raving about Forth about 8 years ago, but I never<br>
> >> had a chance to look into it. There are so many interesting languages to<br>
> >> choose from these days. I managed to find an hour or two to play with<br>
> >> clojure on the weekend and had a great time. I just wish I could justify<br>
> >> exploring all these options during my working hours. Perhaps ironic that I<br>
> >> may have the freedom to do just that once we get the funding that's forcing<br>
> >> us to use Python.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The major realization for me is that my ability to make technical<br>
> >> decisions is governed, not by my ability to make sound arguments, but by<br>
> >> whatever social and political power I can muster. If I head up the<br>
> >> technology for a successful company, I gain a lot of power to make<br>
> >> decisions. Even if the success of the company has nothing to do with<br>
> >> technology. Even if the company succeeded despite relying on inferior<br>
> >> technology. Once I'm there, business people are less likely do dismiss my<br>
> >> arguments just be cause they conflict with sentiments alluded to by the<br>
> >> Financial Review or touted by their favourite "tame geek".<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> <br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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Tim Connors<br>
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