[Melbourne-pm] Agile Perl

[Alec Clews]

Much to my suprise there is an XP Perl group at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeperl/

and an online book at http://www.extremeperl.org/bk/home

(I've also added the information to Perl.net.au)

On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 09:16 +1000, Alec Clews wrote:
> G'Day
> 
> I posted a very brief summary about Agile Perl from the Wed meeting on
> my blog 
> 
> (http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/agile-in-the-perl-world/) 
> 
> and got a very cheeky reply from a Microsofty friend of mine.
> 
> "I wonder whether they would have said the same if you asked about
> multisyllabic variable names?" 
> 
> Anyone want to fire back a shot?
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:28 +1000, leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au wrote:
> > I practice TDD all the time, am doing a huge refactoring effort right
> > now using those principles (though I am still developing my own
> > best-practice on that front) and I've done pair programming once, on a
> > very successful  project -  it is still in use for a major (several $M
> > client) with precisely one bug attributable to our development.
> > Unfortunately I wont be there tonight, but if you want to meet
> > sometime to talk, or talk via phone/skype/irc/whatever then let me
> > know.
> >  
> > To my mind TDD is a slower (by about 20-30%), but far more accurate,
> > way to develop - the slower develpment till you've finished coding is
> > more than made up for in saved time during integration and acceptance
> > testing - by orders of magnitude in my opinion. My experience is the
> > code works exactly the way the spec told you to write it almost
> > immediately, and your then left with fixing errors in what the spec
> > told you to do. Which you can charge for, most probably at obscene
> > rates....
> >  
> > L
> > 
> >         
> >         ______________________________________________________________
> >         From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] 
> >         Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 3:04 PM
> >         To: melbourne-pm at pm.org
> >         Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers AGM
> >         *tonight*
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         On the subject of talks.
> >         
> >         Does anyone have experience of applying Agile style practices
> >         to Perl programming? e.g. Test Driven Development,
> >         Re-factoring, Pair programming. I'd be interested in hearing
> >         any insights or thoughts. Perhaps a BOF or round table
> >         format? 
> >         
> >         On 13/06/07, Jacinta Richardson <jarich at perltraining.com.au>
> >         wrote: 
> >                 Just a quick addition.  If you are not yet a member
> >                 and would like to be, you
> >                 can join at the start of the AGM.  I believe
> >                 membership is $10 (once-only).
> >                 Paul will have membership forms available.
> >                 
> >                 You need to be a member in order to accept a
> >                 nomination for a position on the 
> >                 committee or to vote.  Scott will be able to tell us
> >                 who has been elected
> >                 unopposed to the various positions - based on
> >                 nominations from last week - at
> >                 the start of the meeting.
> >                 
> >                 All the best,
> >                 
> >                         Jacinta 
> >                 
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> >         Alec Clews <alecclews at gmail.com>             Melbourne,
> >         Australia.
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Alec Clews <alecclews at gmail.com>             Melbourne, Australia.
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