Paul Fenwick pjf at
Thu Nov 13 04:35:18 CST 2003

G'day Scotty / Everyone,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:24:16PM +1100, Scott Penrose wrote:

> >	One thing to remember is that PTA is a commercial entity,
> >so there will be an expectation for 'return on investment', or
> >at least to break even on real and opportunity costs.  That
> Hmm... This is probably then of no interest to a YAPC event.
> YAPC is not for profit so what it will be looking for is sponsorship 
> and free talks.

I want to make a clarification here, because I know there's a
possibility that my statement may have been taken the wrong way.  So,
for the record, it's neither my expectation nor my desire that PTA
profit from YAPC at YAPC's expense.  We don't expect to make *money*
from courses/speaking/etc that we provide.  The primary benefits are
exactly what Scott has identified -- publicity, reputation and good
will.  :)

Both myself personally and PTA are quite excited by the prospect
of a YAPC::AU, and are definitely eager to help.  I can certainly
help in the immediate term by providing housing for mailing lists
and archiving (if we want a separate YAPC::AU organisation list),
and a wiki if people want a place to write comments/ideas/minutes/

On that note, does anyone have any records/wikis/etc (however brief)
of what I missed after I had to leave last night?  I know that dates
and audiences were being discussed, were there any conclusions there?



Paul Fenwick <pjf at> |
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