[LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 41, Issue 5
Todd Cranston-Cuebas
Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com
Mon Dec 11 13:05:18 PST 2006
Excellent, let's keep the conversations going ;) Juan, I'm glad that you
have an idea of how to put on a visually interesting "face" on the issue of
perl speed. It's something I'd particularly like to address and have an open
forum to dispel myths.
Keep volunteering and keep the ideas flowing! Once I have a feeling that we
can keep the booth full, I'll make a formal request for the booth. I'd like
to get that done by tomorrow or Wednesday since they are asking for a
confirmation.
Todd
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Todd,
I would definitely love to volunteer and help out in any and every way. Some
of the project ideas suggested by Juan Natera are very interesting and I
would very much like to collaborate with him.
Also, I wouldn't mind managing the booth evangelizing LA.pm and perl.
Nimish Parmar
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: LA-PM sponsoring a booth at SCALE? (Juan Jose Natera)
2. Need more input: So far positive on a booth (Todd Cranston-Cuebas)
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:26:19 -0800
From: "Juan Jose Natera" <naterajj at gmail.com <mailto:naterajj at gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [LA.pm] LA-PM sponsoring a booth at SCALE?
To: "Todd Cranston-Cuebas" <Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at ticketmaster.com
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Todd, I would like to volunteer as well.
Regarding demonstrations, I have a few suggestions:
* An OpenGL application, doing simple things in 3D.
* A Perl-GTK application.
* A wxPerl application.
* A set of mod_perl "hacks", showing interesting things.
These are all things that are easy to show and/or that we can have
running continously at the Convention.
We could also give away mini CPAN CDs, all the latest Perl modules in
a CD so people can keep a "mirror" of CPAN on their machines.
Regards,
Juan Natera
On 12/8/06, Todd Cranston-Cuebas <Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at ticketmaster.com
<mailto:Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at ticketmaster.com> > wrote:
>
>
> I wanted to open discussions on this list as to whether the LA.pm would
like
> to host a booth at the upcoming Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE) to
be
> held on the weekend of February 10th and 11th
> (http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale5x/
<http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale5x/> ). As a local user
> group, there would be NO COST! Trust me, that's a wonderful thing so I'd
> really like to take advantage of their generosity. I'll only do this
though
> if we can get members to volunteer to sign-up for specific spots to sit in
> the booth and evangelize for our favorite programming language.
>
> I have attended this event for a few years and the turn out for
open-source
> minded individuals is just tremendous. This is a great opportunity to keep
> the buzz for perl alive in our area and perhaps have a very public forum
for
> addressing specific misinformation that to my surprise never seems to go
> away (e.g., perl is slow, perl can't scale, perl can't be used for
building
> "real" applications, etc.).
>
> The only requirement that SCALE organizers place on us is that we will
have
> to have live demonstration systems showing something related to perl at
the
> show. They'll provide free internet access and power. We need to provide a
> few boxes showing "something" that we can demonstrate. This could be
> examples of performance tests in operation, a perl-based rapid development
> framework, etc. I think it would be ideal if the demonstration could
address
> one of perl's common misconceptions (e.g., performance, difficulty to use,
> etc.) rather than just do something cryptic or esoteric.
>
> In order to know if we should proceed, I'll need for everyone who is
> interested to reply.
>
> 1). Should we have a booth?
> 2). Will you take a time slot at the event (Sat-Sun - Feb 10-11). The
length
> of the "slot" will depend on the number of volunteers.
> 3). Do you have an idea for a demonstration?
> 4). Will you help to build one or more demonstrations?
>
> Regards,
>
> Todd
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:56:08 -0800
From: Todd Cranston-Cuebas <Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com
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Subject: [LA.pm] Need more input: So far positive on a booth
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So far, I have had a number of people contact me directly with a big
positive response to supporting a booth at SCALE. Please do me a favor and
respond back to the whole group so others can get a sense of how many people
are supportive of the idea. I'll need volunteers to:
1). Do stints in the booth talking to people who might be interested in the
LA.pm specifically and perl in general. I'd expect the commitment to be
something in the range of 2-3 hours.
2). I'd like to have a library of sample books available at the booth to
show people the support that perl has in the industry. I'd like someone to
coordinate borrowing books if necessary to have a nice representation at the
desk. I have a number of books I can bring but I'd like someone responsible
for this.
3). I'll need a team (or two) of demo-builders. Here are some ideas...
A). Check out dataplace -- < <http://www.dataplace.org/>
http://www.dataplace.org/>
http://www.dataplace.org <http://www.dataplace.org> . We did get an offer
to do a live demo on this
interesting site during the show. This is a mod_perl/MASON based system
showing off some very fun web 2.0 stuff on this site supported by a
non-profit. If there can be some nice talk about the "behind-the-scenes" as
to how this was accomplished, I'd like to see this one demo'd.
Also, I was emailing back-and-forth with Philippe Chiasson and I think there
were a few very good ideas that came from the conversation...
B). Something comparing cgi, fastcgi, mod_perl/prefork,
mod_perl/threaded, modperl::registry vs mod_perl-handler with an automated
benchmark/graphing tool in semi real-time (i.e., live, cool graphics showing
off the major speed and performance achievable with modr-Per-handlers,
etc.).
C). A live demo of Jifty (the RonR type rapid web development
framework). Catalyst could also be an option if we had somone very
familiarly. I think Jifty might be the better choice if someone is familiar
with it since it may have more demo "gee whiz" features. I think I could get
this running but would be a poor demonstrator of anything of any depth.
D: We also had suggestions for the following demos... I'm open to all
but we need people to build them and be ready to show others who to show
them off OR plan to be in the booth most of the time to do the demos.
* An OpenGL application, doing simple things in 3D.
* A Perl-GTK application.
* A wxPerl application.
* A set of mod_perl "hacks", showing interesting things.
I'm not stuck on these ideas, so if you have a better idea, please let me
know. In the long-run, the deciding factor is going to be who jumps up and
says "I'll work on this with Bob, Mary, Joe, etc. and pull this together for
the group." I'll be clear on this, I can't set up these demos since I'm too
much of a newbie.
4). People to volunteer machines for the demo. Ideally, this will be the
people who create the demo in the first place since it would probably be
much easier to build and deploy on the same machine, but...
No money is involved here just to be part of the booth group. It's just some
dedication of prep time and a willingness to give up a little of your
weekend. I know that weekend time is tough, but this is a great event to
help build the organization so we can continue to attract monthly speakers
and even sponsor larger perl events.
I'll have to let the organizers know shortly, but I won't commit unless I
can get a good batch of vocal volunteers. Thanks all who have jumped in to
show support up to this point. Again, respond back to the main list.
Regards,
Todd
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