[CMI.PM] Web account management module?

Milt Epstein mepstein at uiuc.edu
Fri Feb 17 15:13:43 PST 2006


On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Mark C Tomory wrote:

> Hi, Mitch,
>
> I wouldn't be so sure. If they're using the University network, then
> they can get CITES to register the domain for them (in fact, they
> have to or CITES will have a fit--I know, we did it once here in
> Physics).  That being the case, I suspect you could use Bluestem
> after all; at least, I can think of no reason why CITES would
> object, and I encourage you to ask. The person to contact is Milt
> Epstein (mepstein at uiuc.edu and/or certmgr at uiuc.edu).

Hey, I was trying to stay out of this thread!

The contact address for such Bluestem questions is actually
bluestem-mgr at uiuc.edu; certmgr is for certificates.

And -- speaking unofficially -- we'd probably need a pretty good
reason to allow Bluestem to be used with a non-uiuc.edu site.  I
believe there is only one such site currently; that's e-academy.com,
for the webstore.

For example, the Bluestem SLD, located at:

http://www.cites.uiuc.edu/services/bluestem_sld.html

has info on "Who can use this service"; related to who can have
Bluestem application servers, it says:

  Individual departments can choose to implement Bluestem
  authentication on their web servers and for applications that they
  develop. For more information on how to do this, see the Bluestem
  webpage.

Note also that Mitch did not indicate that the group's domain would be
hosted on the UIUC network; they might very well have everything
handled externally.  (And I believe there are some policies in place
for when a separate domain can be hosted on the UIUC network; and as I
recall, they were somewhat strict.)


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: champaign-urbana-bounces+tomory=uiuc.edu at pm.org
> [mailto:champaign-
> > urbana-bounces+tomory=uiuc.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Kutzko
> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:22 PM
> > To: CU Perlmongers
> > Subject: Re: [CMI.PM] Web account management module?
> >
> > Good ideas from everyone so far, but the group in question has decided
> > that
> > they want to get their own, private domain name.  Since it will be
> outside
> > the uiuc.edu domain space, Bluestem and other UIUC-based solutions
> won't
> > work.
> >
> > Thanks anyway!
> >
> > Mitch
> >
> >
> > At 04:07 PM 2/17/2006 -0600, Mark C Tomory wrote:
> > > Hi, Mitch,
> > >
> > > Since it's for a campus group, why not just use the existing
> webtools?
> > > If you go to http://webtools.uiuc.edu/, then click the Login link
> and
> > > authenticate to Bluestem, there's a Group Manager tool that may
> already
> > > do what you want. And since it uses Bluestem, it keeps you out of
> the
> > > password business.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >    Mark
> > >
> > > _____________
> > > Mark Tomory
> > > UIUC Physics
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: champaign-urbana-bounces+tomory=uiuc.edu at pm.org
> > > [mailto:champaign-
> > > > urbana-bounces+tomory=uiuc.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Kutzko
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:53 AM
> > > > To: CU Perlmongers
> > > > Subject: [CMI.PM] Web account management module?
> > > >
> > > > Hi, everyone -- I need to write an online event signup script for
> the
> > > web
> > > > site of a local student group here on campus.   Each user needs to
> > > have
> > > > their own login/ID for the signups.
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for a Perl solution that allows the users to manage
> their
> > > > passwords themselves, with an administrator (most likely me) only
> > > having
> > > > to
> > > > approval the initial signup.  (Ie, I don't have to deal with the
> tons
> > > of
> > > > "I
> > > > forgot my password" requests that will inevitably show up with a
> group
> > > of
> > > > 200 to 300 members.)
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?  Google hasn't really shown me anything that really
> looks
> > > both
> > > > workable, secure, and free.  (In fact, most everything I found for
> > > this
> > > > via
> > > > Google appears to have been developed on/for Win32 platforms, not
> *nix
> > > > platforms.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help!
> > > >
> > > > Mitch
> > > > --
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> > > 217-333-1199
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Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Integration and Software Engineering (ISE)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein at uiuc.edu


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