[yapc] Missing subcribers

[Matt S Trout]

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:03:14PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> On 05/25/2012 09:38 AM, Matt S Trout wrote:
> >On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 08:04:29AM -0500, JT Smith wrote:
> >>Next year when you run YAPC::NA feel free to spam everybody you want. I, 
> >>however, think that mailing lists should be opt-in and therefore refuse 
> >>to auto-subscribe everyone.
> >
> 
> we have always autosubscribed attendees to the list and it is not an 
> optin/optout issue. many attendees are first timers and don't know about 
> the mailing list. even if they were notified by the web site when they 
> bought their pass, many would not see it. no one has ever complained 
> about the autosubscribe in 10 years. attending yapc is a community thing 
> and we did lots of communication on the list. this is why i am seeing 
> such a low response to the arrival dinner, many of the attendees are not 
> seeing the emails. this has to be changed IMO and even fixed now. this 
> is not spamming at all. if you want your blogs and posts to be seen by 
> all interested parties, then subscribe all of the attendees now while we 
> have 2 weeks left before yapc. other than you and a bit from me, this 
> list is dead. it has been a very lively place in past yapcs and that was 
> only because of the autosubscribe.

Precisely. I'm expecting to have to have Hallway++ people camp the
registration desk to make sure that people who're at their first YAPC
even find out it exists.

Not having all attendees on here has gutted our primary means of
intra-community communication.

> >Maybe the daily spam would be better on a separate list?
>
> fine with me but again, autosubscribe all the attendees. knowing about
> the various talks like this is good. it reminds people about talks they
> might want to see and without having to keep rereading the schedule and
> clicking on each talk to get its blurb.

Yes, but the auto-generated-ness is causing this list to start to get
a spammy reputation in some filters, and I don't want next year's
organisers to suffer from dropped emails since I fully expect they will
auto-subscribe.

It would probably be alright if it wasn't such an obviously generated
email with weird formatting; so far it's only the generated ones that
are getting spam bucketed to my knowledge.

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