[oak perl] Andreessen says PHP suceeding over Java

[Adrien Lamothe]

I've seen an advertisement for that software. It shows
exactly what you mention, a couple of icons with a
connector between them.

What can we call developing software without having to
write at least some code? How about "Immaculate
Development". Hey, that can be a new methodology, the
"Immaculate Development" method. Let's write a book
about it, and become highly paid "Immaculate
Development" consultants! Dogbert would be proud.


--- Michael Ruggiero <mruggiero at formfactor.com> wrote:

> Where I work, they are touting SOA, and say that
> "you won't need to
> write any code... it'll be great." One illusion
> these technologies offer
> is the idea that a "new" thing will sort of elimiate
> the need to write
> code. We're investing in Oracle tools that are
> really expensive, but
> managers really believe that, by moving icons around
> in a "studio,"
> they'll create wonderful applications without
> touching dirty code.
> Because it's "new."  It's really the worst kind of
> magical thinking. "It
> sounds good; therefore it is good."
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oakland-bounces at pm.org
> [mailto:oakland-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf
> Of Adrien Lamothe
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Oakland Perl Mongers
> Subject: Re: [oak perl] Andreessen says PHP
> suceeding over Java
> 
> 
> --- David Fetter <david at fetter.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Marc Andreesen happened to be standing at the
> right place at the right
> 
> > time with Netscape.  He has since let his lottery
> ticket winnings go 
> > to his head, as many of us might do when faced
> with the amount of 
> > gratitude we would have to show in the face of
> unearned billions.
> > 
> 
> Right on the mark. The illness you describe is quite
> common.
> 
> What Andreessen does is address the viability of
> "scripting languages"
> for serious system development, and how said
> languages are marching
> forward, while Java is "evolving" into a mass of
> goo. Ruby on Rails has
> the potential to de-rail all the nonsense passing
> for "web services".
> Now the industry is moving towards "SOA" (Service
> Oriented
> Architecture.) Another case of "but wait, things
> will be different this
> time, we promise. Just pony-up $10,000 per seat for
> our new SOA
> development tool."
> 
> Unfortunately, most decision-makers listen to guys
> like Andreessen,
> because they can't think for themselves and thus are
> really not doing
> their jobs (another form of unearned wealth.)
> 
> - Adrien
> 
> "The revolution will not be televised. The monkeys
> will be removed from
> the thrones and placed back into their cages."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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