[oak perl] Mail Annoyance

George Woolley george at metaart.org
Mon May 16 12:58:16 PDT 2005


Hi Elijah,
Thanks for sending me that email.
It helped me to better understand
what was occurring.
(And I definitely needed help.)

Anyway, I think based on a later email directly to me
that, at least so far, 
the problem is gone for you..
George

Hi Everyone including Elijah,
As far as I can tell
the "Mail Annoyance" problem has been fixed.

If anyone experiences the problem again,
let me know.
George


On Monday 16 May 2005 12:08 pm, Benjamin Elijah Griffin wrote:
> I wrote to George (directly):
> > Recently I've been super annoyed that everything to the oakland at pm.org
> > list comes through base64 encoded. Someone changed something somewhere,
> > I suspect the mailing list software now wants to encode everything
> > in UTF-8 (it provides a charset="utf-8" header) even when the contents
> > are plain ASCII. And then it gets anal about encoding, and converts
> > the bodies to base64.
>
> He replied, asking me:
> : Do you know approximately
> : when you began experiencing
> : the change you describe in the first sentence?
>
> May 10th I received "[oak perl] Yet Another Perl Conference final
> details" (message-ID: <20050511033524.4A975177F8 at x6.develooper.com>)
> which was not UTF-8 and was not base64 encoded.
>
> May 11th I received "Re: [oak perl] Hi from Robert Kuropkat"
> (message-ID: <200505111128.18817.george at metaart.org>) which was UTF-8
> and base64 encoded. All messages since then have been such.
>
> Both have "X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6rc3" headers, so I don't think
> that's what changed, Both messages come in to qmail on
> x1.develooper.com, then get handed off to Postfix on x6.develooper.com
> according to the Received headers. I can't tell the versions of
> either of those from the headers, so if one changed I wouldn't know it.
>
> George also asks the list in general:
> : The earliest occurrence
> : I've found of the missing end of lines
> : is May 9th.
> :
> : Anyone, seen the problem before that?
>
> FYI: my 'May 10th' last plain message came in several minutes before
> midnight Eastern time. Pacific time it would be early on the 11th. (My
> panix.com account is hosted in New York.)
>
> Elijah
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