[Chicago-talk] Qualify Skills?

JT Smith jt at plainblack.com
Mon Oct 4 12:13:01 CDT 2004

Maybe my description sells short, but I think we ended up on the same grade. You just 
described Andy Lester (except that he has touched Larry's moustache twice) and gave him 
a B+.

The grade I gave myself is because:

1) I've never really used Test::More

2) And I have no formal programming training. So I don't have a good working knowledge 
of a lot of the design patterns and other things that I should know to be a truely good 
Perl programmer.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:58:46 -0500
  Jim Thomason <thomasoniii at gmail.com> wrote:
>That sells yourself short. Standard grade range is A is top 10%, B is
>top 20%, C is top 30%, etc.
>If you say you're a B, then that tells the interviewer if they
>interview 100 people, they're likely to find one person better than
>Restricting A level people down to only the gurus is silly and would
>probably not be what an interviewer would do.
>If you want to hedge your bets, then the best thing would probably be
>to rattle off the things that you know, and then come up with a grade.
>"Well, I contributed Foo::Bar to CPAN, I've deployed 17 sites in
>mod_perl, I've optimized lots of code for big performance gains, I
>once touched Larry Wall's moustache, and I can walk on water while
>playing the ukelele. I'd say I'm a solid B+."
>Personally, when I was interviewing people, I'd only ask questions
>like that to get a jumping off point for where I should start grilling
>them when I did the tech eval. Having someone say, "I'm an A!" is
>kinda useless, they need to prove it. So have the goods to back up
>your claim, but don't sell yourself short.
>On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:52:22 -0500, JT Smith <jt at plainblack.com> wrote:
>> A+ = Larry Wall
>> A = Damian Conway
>> B+ = Andy Lester
>> C+/B- = JT Smith
>> To be in the A range, you'd have to be a Larry Wall, Randal Schwartz, Damian Conway 
>> person I would think. Not that you have to be them, just that you have to know the 
>> workings of Perl, and all of the coolio tricks they do.
>> If you know mod_perl, Perl core, Test::More, and a good working knowledge of CPAN, 
>> you're probably in the B range.
>> Anything else and your a lesser grade.
>> That's my 2 cents.
>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:25:43 -0500
>>   Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I ran across a few Perl jobs on craigslist.  After contacting one of
>> >the recruiters, she asked me to grade myself, as in, am I a B+ Perl
>> >developer?
>> >
>> >Any thoughts on a rule of thumb way to classify a developer?
>> >
>> >Something along the lines of:
>> >
>> >An A+ developer can do x y z from memory, and has probably contributed
>> >to CPAN...
>> >
>> >would be helpful.  Or maybe just a paragraph about, "so, you want to
>> >be a full time Perl developer, here's the basic skill set..."
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Chris
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