APM: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects

Thu Jun 12 07:46:40 PDT 2014

On 06/12/2014 02:33 AM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote:
> MONGERS, PLEASE READ MR. DOUGHERTY'S LETTER BELOW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK!
>
> Things I personally think are attractive about this FRDCSA project:
>
> - Clear Initial Win By Releasing Pre-Existing Software To CPAN
> - Artificial Intelligence Is Cool
> - Integrates With New Austin.pm Catalyst Website
> - Existing Maintainer To Lead The Project
> - Potentially High-Value & High-Visibility
> - Broad Enough To Have Something For Everyone

I and most other p5p folks don't really trust this guy.

He applied for a tpf grant last year and it was denied.
Nobody expects anybody to ask for money to publish his
perl modules to CPAN.

* http://news.perlfoundation.org/2010/08/2010q3-grant-proposal-frdcsa-i.html

* 
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/06/13/154226/learn-about-the-frdcsa-weak-ai-project-video

And the quality of the code was horrible compared to similar AI 
projects. So I doubt the potential High-Value & High-Visibility.

Wasn't he in Austin at the last YAPC?
I do think so.

But I don't want to curb your enthusiasm if you like to work on it.
AI *is* cool.
And nobody trusted Will neither, until he came up with a successful 
project on his own. So if you like it, go for it.

> ----- Forwarded message from "Andrew J. Dougherty" <andrewdo at frdcsa.org>
> -----
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:17:11 +0000
> Subject: Re: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects
> To: "William N. Braswell, Jr." <william.braswell at autoparallel.com>
>
> Hi Mongers,
>
> Sure, I'll give a description. There is a ton of open source
> software out there that hasn't been integrated directly with Perl
> yet which is often written in other languages or combinations
> thereof. Really powerful stuff. I have made/want to make a
> giant directory of all of this and expose interfaces from Perl to
> all the libraries, APIs, etc, and make both the original software
> and its wrapper installable on your OS of choice by building OS
> specific installers for it for as many OSes as possible. I've
> been using the FLOSSMole database of software, spidering, and a
> lot of natural language processing software I've collected (that
> I've exposed the APIs to in Perl) to bootstrap a Comprehensive
> Software Ontology, and have created a toolchain called
> RADAR/Packager/Architect which can locate, package and integrate
> that software into these APIs and OS packages. I do all my
> programming in Perl and want to make my environment as capable as
> possible. So there is the Perl API component, and also the OS
> package component.
>
> In addition to this main goal there are a lot of other tools,
> which have either been custom written in Perl or which I've
> indexed using the system, to provide two kinds of capabilities.
> The first kind are capabilities that help with the goal of
> locating, packaging and integrating existing open source
> software. The second kind are general purpose software.
>
> I think that by making all these non-Perl tools able to be
> controlled from Perl, we will magnify the set of capabilities
> that are installable via CPAN and your OS. I've been building
> vagrant scripts to test.
>
> Since learning of Catalyst, I have always envisioned exposing
> these capabilities through CPAN to Catalyst to help make it the
> most powerful possible web development system, capable of
> accessing and performing the most comprehensive set of functions
> possible.
>
> I have put 15 years of work into this project, and it has never
> been released on CPAN, because I don't have experience releasing
> CPAN modules, and everything is interdependent. It would be a
> great help to me and hopefully to the Perl community as well if
> the Austin Perl Mongers could help me get this system deployed to
> CPAN so that people can use it with their projects. There is a
> lot involved, tests need to be written, code cleaned and secured,
> but I'm confident that it is very doable and worthwhile.
>
> Much of the software I have been packaging is artificial
> intelligence and text processing tools. You can see some of the
> packages here:
>
> deb http://services.frdcsa.org/debian unstable/
>
> I've also developed a lot of Perl programs, both general purpose
> software, and software that aids in the creation of Perl. I have
> one that uses PPI to convert a script into a module. I am
> working on one that converts a textual description of a system
> into object-oriented code. One that installs all dependent
> modules for a perl program, etc.
>
> Thanks for considering the FRDCSA as your project.
>
> Here are some links:
>
> Internal:
>
> http://frdcsa.org/frdcsa/
> http://frdcsa.org/
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Overview.odt
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/projects/module-list.txt
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/modules.txt
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/major-tracks.pdf
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/FRDCSA-Grant-Proposal.odt
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Temporal-Planning-and-Inferencing-for-Personal-Task-Management-with-SPSE2.pdf
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/flourish-2009.odp
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/workhorse.odp‎
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/frdcsa-2.0-requirements-draft.txt
>
> External:
>
> https://github.com/aindilis/myfrdcsas-doc/blob/master/MyFRDCSAs.README
> http://flossmole.org/
> http://www.fossology.org/projects/fossology
>
> Some sample code:
>
> http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/software/software-samples-20111215.tgz
>
> (you can see some wrappers in System::, Capability:: and
> PerlLib:: in the perllib.tgz tar contained within the samples
> tar).
>
>
> On 06/11/2014 10:04 PM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote:
>> Good idea, Mr. Choate.
>>
>> Mr. Dougherty, will you please reply to the mailing list with a brief
>> explanation of your Perl project?
>> Thanks!
>> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez
>>
>> On 6/11/2014 at 7:37 AM, jameschoate at austin.rr.com wrote:With regard
>> to projects, I'd like to propose somebody in authority speak with
>> Andrew Dougherty w/ FRDCSA. He has a large collection of Perl he's
>> been working on for the last several years related to ML and such
>> topics. He's trying to get help organizing and building some support
>> to get them into a real production status. I've included Andrew in CC.
>> I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from
>> last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able
>> to do much actual help to date).
>>
>>http://www.frdcsa.org
>>
>> ---- "William N. Braswell wrote:
>>> Howdy Mongers,
>>> We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford
>>> stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to
>>> be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers.  We will
>>> use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst /
>>> Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery /
>>> Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and
>>> responsive website.  WOWZA!
>>> Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello
>>> to-do list:
>>>https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website
>>> We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an
>>> official Austin Perl Mongers mascot...
>>>
>>> THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER!
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander
>>> We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's
>>> "Snappy the Gator" mascot.  We've had several possible ideas
>> including
>>> a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper
>> british
>>> salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on
>> top".
>>>  So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we
>> come
>>> up with?  "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs,
>>> at your service my good lady"
>>> We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and
>> our
>>> main man X!  Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new
>>> shirts?
>>> AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually
>>> choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted
>> on
>>> CPAN.  We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much
>> open
>>> to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl
>>> community.  It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN
>>> distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come
>>> up with from scratch.  Let's all pitch in and make a difference,
>> let's
>>> put Austin.pm on the maps!
>>> So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc?
>>> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez
>>>
>>> William Norman Braswell, Jr.
>>>  CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc.
>>>  william.braswell at autoparallel.com
>>>  512.563.7984
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>>
>>  -- -- -- --
>> Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus
>>
>> jameschoate at austin.rr.com
>> jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org
>> ravage at ssz.com
>>
>> h: 512-657-1279
>>
>> Adapt, Adopt, Improvise
>>  -- -- -- --
>>
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