From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Wed Jul  3 04:51:59 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:51:59 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Perl developers
Message-ID: <20130703115159.GA4366@fables.co.za>

Hi,

this is a bit old due to my absence, but I have checked and these people
are still looking for SAn Perl developers.

contact annemie direct.


----- Forwarded message from "Annemie Jooste [Striata]" <annemie.jooste at za.striata.com> -----

Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:50:03 +0200
From: "Annemie Jooste [Striata]" <annemie.jooste at za.striata.com>
Subject: RE: Perl developers

Hi there

Nope we are still looking :(
We have received a few CV's for foreigners but looking for SA Perl
developers unfortunately. Perhaps we can approach the ZA people on the
list?

Thanks 

Annemie Jooste
Striata - HR Manager
Office: +27 11 530 9600 | Mobile: +27 82 545 8628 | Fax: 086 614 8382


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Jul  4 10:05:37 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 19:05:37 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] [editor@africamediaonline.com: Perl Programmers]
Message-ID: <20130704170537.GA11059@fables.co.za>

Hi,

I have revisited this request and it is still current. 

Anne


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Subject: Perl Programmers

Hi Anne,

I am looking for experienced Perl programmers to work on a freelance or contract basis on our MEMAT system. We are based in Pietermaritzburg and it would be ideal to work with some Perl programmers down here in KZN, but are open to working with programmers elsewhere in the country. Are you able to give us some referrals?

All the best,

David



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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Jul 18 00:58:29 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:58:29 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] perl on server, where to install modules for local use
Message-ID: <20130718075829.GA23984@fables.co.za>

Hi there,

A simple question here - but then you know my knowledge is limited!

I do my development work on my laptop, it has a local installation of
perl.

The current script that I am developing is to run on my (ubuntu) server
from my home account. I will need to install several modules for this.

Question. Do I use cpan as root  or can I just fire up $ cpan from my
home account  and install them?

many thanks
Ian

From shlomif at shlomifish.org  Thu Jul 18 01:07:34 2013
From: shlomif at shlomifish.org (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:07:34 +0300
Subject: [za-pm] perl on server, where to install modules for local use
In-Reply-To: <20130718075829.GA23984@fables.co.za>
References: <20130718075829.GA23984@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <20130718110734.44f4315f@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>

Hi Ian,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:58:29 +0200
Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:

> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> A simple question here - but then you know my knowledge is limited!
> 
> I do my development work on my laptop, it has a local installation of
> perl.
> 
> The current script that I am developing is to run on my (ubuntu) server
> from my home account. I will need to install several modules for this.
> 
> Question. Do I use cpan as root  or can I just fire up $ cpan from my
> home account  and install them?

It depends on what you want to do. You can use something like local-lib
( https://metacpan.org/release/local-lib ) to install modules under your home
directory - only for your current user. If you use cpan as root, then it may
install files all over the filesystem, and thus - may pollute it. You can also
try to package these CPAN distributions as Ubuntu packages. See what I wrote
about all that here:

http://perl-begin.org/topics/cpan/

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

> 
> many thanks
> Ian
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First stop for Perl beginners - http://perl-begin.org/

Yesterday I asked one of my students if she knew what an encyclopedia is, and
she said: ?Is it something like Wikipedia??.
        ? http://twitter.com/alisonclement/status/8421314259

Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Jul 18 05:00:58 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:00:58 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] perl on server, where to install modules for local use
In-Reply-To: <20130718110734.44f4315f@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>
References: <20130718075829.GA23984@fables.co.za>
	<20130718110734.44f4315f@telaviv1.shlomifish.org>
Message-ID: <20130718120058.GA24976@fables.co.za>

Hello, Shlomi,

see below

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:07:34AM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:58:29 +0200
> Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
> 
> > Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > A simple question here - but then you know my knowledge is limited!
> > 
> > I do my development work on my laptop, it has a local installation of
> > perl.
> > 
> > The current script that I am developing is to run on my (ubuntu) server
> > from my home account. I will need to install several modules for this.
> > 
> > Question. Do I use cpan as root  or can I just fire up $ cpan from my
> > home account  and install them?
> 
> It depends on what you want to do. You can use something like local-lib
> ( https://metacpan.org/release/local-lib ) to install modules under your home
> directory - only for your current user. If you use cpan as root, then it may
> install files all over the filesystem, and thus - may pollute it. You can also
> try to package these CPAN distributions as Ubuntu packages. See what I wrote
> about all that here:
> 
> http://perl-begin.org/topics/cpan/
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Shlomi Fish

Thank you, Shlomi. That of course is what I had to have done to use
local perl on my development machine. So local-lib also on the server then.

Your site is looking great, lots of interesting stuff on there. The w3m
browser shows it well. 

Anne

> 
> > 
> > many thanks
> > Ian
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> > 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Shlomi Fish       http://www.shlomifish.org/
> First stop for Perl beginners - http://perl-begin.org/
> 
> Yesterday I asked one of my students if she knew what an encyclopedia is, and
> she said: ?Is it something like Wikipedia??.
>         ? http://twitter.com/alisonclement/status/8421314259
> 
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Fri Aug  9 11:20:39 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:20:39 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
Message-ID: <20130809182039.GA10689@fables.co.za>

Hi,

I have just made a small update to the front page of our website.

http://za.pm.org/index.html

This just notes the fact that we are still (technically, anyway) alive,
and give details of a few new members of note who have joined us.

It is National Woman's Day in South Africa for those of you who are out
of touch. One of our 12 official public holidays!

regards
Anne


From 2teezperl at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 14:07:02 2013
From: 2teezperl at gmail.com (timothy adigun)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:07:02 +0100
Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
Message-ID: <CAEWzkh4iv3FXUa3B-nc_RR0nSsitQKKtpf6AfOHT_Ax25sGM2A@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 Aug 2013 20:00, <za-pm-request at pm.org> wrote:
>
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Update to website (Anne Wainwright)

Great work you are doing here. If I may suggest however, can metacpan be
added as one of the Perl Links on the home page?

>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:20:39 +0200
> From: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> To: za-pm <za-pm at pm.org>
> Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
> Message-ID: <20130809182039.GA10689 at fables.co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just made a small update to the front page of our website.
>
> http://za.pm.org/index.html
>
> This just notes the fact that we are still (technically, anyway) alive,
> and give details of a few new members of note who have joined us.
>
> It is National Woman's Day in South Africa for those of you who are out
> of touch. One of our 12 official public holidays!
>
> regards
> Anne
>
>
>
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sat Aug 10 07:08:48 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:08:48 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
In-Reply-To: <CAEWzkh4iv3FXUa3B-nc_RR0nSsitQKKtpf6AfOHT_Ax25sGM2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEWzkh4iv3FXUa3B-nc_RR0nSsitQKKtpf6AfOHT_Ax25sGM2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130810140848.GA15392@fables.co.za>

Hi, Timothy,

Yes you may suggest! This is your website and mailing list.

I have added the html code and it will appear next time I do an upload.
I want to tidy the code on a page or two before I do that and it will be
a little while.

Thanks for the input.

I was looking at the metacpan pages. I think that I need to get an
account before I can add a '+' to one of the modules? Why do I end up on
git when trying to do this?

regards
Anne

On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 10:07:02PM +0100, timothy adigun wrote:

 
> Great work you are doing here. If I may suggest however, can metacpan be
> added as one of the Perl Links on the home page?
> 
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:20:39 +0200
> > From: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> > To: za-pm <za-pm at pm.org>
> > Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
> > Message-ID: <20130809182039.GA10689 at fables.co.za>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just made a small update to the front page of our website.
> >
> > http://za.pm.org/index.html
> >
> > This just notes the fact that we are still (technically, anyway) alive,
> > and give details of a few new members of note who have joined us.
> >
> > It is National Woman's Day in South Africa for those of you who are out
> > of touch. One of our 12 official public holidays!
> >
> > regards
> > Anne


From 2teezperl at gmail.com  Sun Aug 11 00:21:18 2013
From: 2teezperl at gmail.com (timothy adigun)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 08:21:18 +0100
Subject: [za-pm] add a '+' on metacpan
Message-ID: <CAEWzkh5SU2t94NRGkmdVETS-h_MmJTqMOzE+mkyrnDqmZ5bAhQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 10 Aug 2013 20:00, <za-pm-request at pm.org> wrote:
>
> Send Za-pm mailing list submissions to
>         za-pm at pm.org
>
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>         za-pm-request at pm.org
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>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:07:02 +0100
> From: timothy adigun <2teezperl at gmail.com>
> To: za-pm at pm.org
> Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
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> On 9 Aug 2013 20:00, <za-pm-request at pm.org> wrote:
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >    1. Update to website (Anne Wainwright)
>
> Great work you are doing here. If I may suggest however, can metacpan be
> added as one of the Perl Links on the home page?
>
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:20:39 +0200
> > From: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> > To: za-pm <za-pm at pm.org>
> > Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
> > Message-ID: <20130809182039.GA10689 at fables.co.za>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just made a small update to the front page of our website.
> >
> > http://za.pm.org/index.html
> >
> > This just notes the fact that we are still (technically, anyway) alive,
> > and give details of a few new members of note who have joined us.
> >
> > It is National Woman's Day in South Africa for those of you who are out
> > of touch. One of our 12 official public holidays!
> >
> > regards
> > Anne
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> From: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> To: ZA Perl-Mongers <za-pm at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [za-pm] Update to website
> Message-ID: <20130810140848.GA15392 at fables.co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi, Timothy,
>
> Yes you may suggest! This is your website and mailing list.
>
> I have added the html code and it will appear next time I do an upload.
> I want to tidy the code on a page or two before I do that and it will be
> a little while.

Nice work.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> I was looking at the metacpan pages. I think that I need to get an
> account before I can add a '+' to one of the modules? Why do I end up on
> git when trying to do this?

Is your git account on and are you selecting it, in other to login?.

Apparently, you must sign to add '++' to module you like, and to write a
review on them also. One can use his/her git, Facebook  Google and Twitter
account to login on metacpan.

>
> regards
> Anne
>
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 10:07:02PM +0100, timothy adigun wrote:
>
>
> > Great work you are doing here. If I may suggest however, can metacpan be
> > added as one of the Perl Links on the home page?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:20:39 +0200
> > > From: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> > > To: za-pm <za-pm at pm.org>
> > > Subject: [za-pm] Update to website
> > > Message-ID: <20130809182039.GA10689 at fables.co.za>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have just made a small update to the front page of our website.
> > >
> > > http://za.pm.org/index.html
> > >
> > > This just notes the fact that we are still (technically, anyway)
alive,
> > > and give details of a few new members of note who have joined us.
> > >
> > > It is National Woman's Day in South Africa for those of you who are
out
> > > of touch. One of our 12 official public holidays!
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Anne
>
>
>
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>
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From sean.carte at gmail.com  Tue Aug 13 04:31:00 2013
From: sean.carte at gmail.com (Sean Carte)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:31:00 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Interview with Larry Wall
Message-ID: <CA+xAuhP_qjTU3x2xkn3r-wR1Ba4e9UuCM53MmanZXBxzyeqTFw@mail.gmail.com>

In case you haven't seen it:

http://blogs.perl.org/users/gabor_szabo/2013/08/interview-with-larry-wall.html

Sean
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sat Aug 17 03:38:35 2013
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:38:35 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Interview with Larry Wall
In-Reply-To: <CA+xAuhP_qjTU3x2xkn3r-wR1Ba4e9UuCM53MmanZXBxzyeqTFw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+xAuhP_qjTU3x2xkn3r-wR1Ba4e9UuCM53MmanZXBxzyeqTFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130817103835.GA20097@fables.co.za>

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 01:31:00PM +0200, Sean Carte wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 

> In case you haven't seen it:
> 
> http://blogs.perl.org/users/gabor_szabo/2013/08/interview-with-larry-wall.html
> 
> Sean
> --

thanks for posting that, interesting, nice cat!

I note that in 1962 Philips introduced the compact cassette and licenced
the format free of charge under pressure from Sony (what pressure? and
contrast their fight with JVC over the dominance of VHS versus Betamax
video tape cassettes).

So the idea of free licencing preceded that of free software by more
than two decades.

Just a thought.

Anne

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