From marais.f at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 05:41:13 2012
From: marais.f at gmail.com (Francois Marais)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:41:13 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Position available
Message-ID: <50225E69.9030600@gmail.com>

Hi za-pm

Our job ad: http://jobs.perl.org/job/16248. Please send me your CV if 
interested. We have had plenty of applications from non-ZA citizens in 
far-flung locations like Tajikistan but none from within the country.

Regards


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Wed Aug 29 12:53:36 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:53:36 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
Message-ID: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>

Hello,

I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
here:

The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
ways designed to suit any conceivable need.

This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text at a
sensitive point.

In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
 
------------------------------
noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
           Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
on
           which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
hash.
           eg.

               {'^Mrs?\.$' => '^\S+$','^\S+$' => '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}

           don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
-------------------------

this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
needed.

So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:

    my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
    $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option

Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.

Any ideas welcome, please.

Anne

PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.

From sean.carte at gmail.com  Wed Aug 29 22:27:31 2012
From: sean.carte at gmail.com (Sean Carte)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:27:31 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <CA+xAuhP705YYy2mEcaku+gL=Yyu3nDNQijxwTFFF8BsMTw_U9g@mail.gmail.com>

On 29 August 2012 21:53, Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
>                {'^Mrs?\.
> => '^\S+,'^\S+ => '^(?:S|J)r\.}
>
>            don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.

>
> So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
>
>     my  %regx = ('^isbn=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?);  # my regex

Not that I know anything about this, but, given the example above,
shouldn't your regex be more like:

'^isbn=>'^\S+[0-9]{9,13}X?

That is, including the whitespace?

Sean
-- 
Sean Carte
DUT E-Repository Administrator
+27 72 898 8775
+27 31 373 2490
fax: 0866741254
ir.dut.ac.za

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Aug 30 00:56:21 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:56:21 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <CA+xAuhP705YYy2mEcaku+gL=Yyu3nDNQijxwTFFF8BsMTw_U9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
	<CA+xAuhP705YYy2mEcaku+gL=Yyu3nDNQijxwTFFF8BsMTw_U9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120830075621.GA5878@fables.co.za>

Hi, Sean

Thanks for the input. I dwill look at a few variations on the theme
this evening.

I assumed that the Text::Format would take care of the whitespace and
that we need only specify the two words that we are not going to break.

Note that \s is whitespace, \S is non-whitespace, ie it includes any
letters and puntuation which is why, I assumed, that it was used in the
example regex. A bit of a catchall, standing for 'Jones' in this
example.

Any way you are not commenting on my hash construction which is good
news. I'll keep the group posted,

Anne



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 07:27:31AM +0200, Sean Carte wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 
> On 29 August 2012 21:53, Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
> >                {'^Mrs?\.
> > => '^\S+,'^\S+ => '^(?:S|J)r\.}
> >
> >            don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
> 
> >
> > So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
> >
> >     my  %regx = ('^isbn=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?);  # my regex
> 
> Not that I know anything about this, but, given the example above,
> shouldn't your regex be more like:
> 
> '^isbn=>'^\S+[0-9]{9,13}X?
> 
> That is, including the whitespace?
> 
> Sean
> -- 
> Sean Carte
> DUT E-Repository Administrator
> +27 72 898 8775
> +27 31 373 2490
> fax: 0866741254
> ir.dut.ac.za
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From sean.carte at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 01:08:32 2012
From: sean.carte at gmail.com (Sean Carte)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:08:32 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <20120830075621.GA5878@fables.co.za>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
	<CA+xAuhP705YYy2mEcaku+gL=Yyu3nDNQijxwTFFF8BsMTw_U9g@mail.gmail.com>
	<20120830075621.GA5878@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <CA+xAuhPpXuSXQMKWj1HEu2SAm_M6R=5ZkdEtycHp1eSh8KAzqw@mail.gmail.com>

On 30 August 2012 09:56, Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
> Note that \s is whitespace, \S is non-whitespace, ie it includes any
> letters and puntuation which is why, I assumed, that it was used in the
> example regex. A bit of a catchall, standing for 'Jones' in this
> example.

You're right: my mistake. Sorry.

Sean
-- 
Sean Carte
DUT E-Repository Administrator
+27 72 898 8775
+27 31 373 2490
fax: 0866741254
ir.dut.ac.za

From francois at busii.com  Thu Aug 30 01:25:38 2012
From: francois at busii.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Marais?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:25:38 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <503F2382.2010103@busii.com>

Hi Anne

If the only problem you are tackling is breaking lines between isbn and 
following number, then surely a simple substitute will suffice?

echo 'isbn 23987
isbn
98777
isbn
239487
isbn 293487
' |perl -p0e's/isbn\s*[\x0d\x0a]*\s*(\d+)/isbn $1/gs'
isbn 23987
isbn 98777
isbn 239487
isbn 293487

(to be adjusted according to relevant line feed carriage return situation)

Regards






On 29/08/2012 21:53, Anne Wainwright wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
> mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
> here:
>
> The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
> ways designed to suit any conceivable need.
>
> This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text at a
> sensitive point.
>
> In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
> end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
>
> ------------------------------
> noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
>             Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
> on
>             which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
> hash.
>             eg.
>
>                 {'^Mrs?\.$' =>  '^\S+$','^\S+$' =>  '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}
>
>             don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
> -------------------------
>
> this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
> little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
> of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
> needed.
>
> So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
>
>      my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
>      $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option
>
> Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
> many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.
>
> Any ideas welcome, please.
>
> Anne
>
> PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>
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From francois at busii.com  Thu Aug 30 01:30:11 2012
From: francois at busii.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Marais?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:30:11 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <503F2382.2010103@busii.com>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za> <503F2382.2010103@busii.com>
Message-ID: <503F2493.6000402@busii.com>

Correction, s option includes newlines:  s/isbn\s*(\d+)/isbn $1/gs

On 30/08/2012 10:25, Fran?ois Marais wrote:
> Hi Anne
>
> If the only problem you are tackling is breaking lines between isbn 
> and following number, then surely a simple substitute will suffice?
>
> echo 'isbn 23987
> isbn
> 98777
> isbn
> 239487
> isbn 293487
> ' |perl -p0e's/isbn\s*[\x0d\x0a]*\s*(\d+)/isbn $1/gs'
> isbn 23987
> isbn 98777
> isbn 239487
> isbn 293487
>
> (to be adjusted according to relevant line feed carriage return 
> situation)
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29/08/2012 21:53, Anne Wainwright wrote:
>> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
>> mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
>> here:
>>
>> The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
>> ways designed to suit any conceivable need.
>>
>> This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text 
>> at a
>> sensitive point.
>>
>> In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
>> end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
>>             Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
>> on
>>             which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
>> hash.
>>             eg.
>>
>>                 {'^Mrs?\.$' =>  '^\S+$','^\S+$' =>  '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}
>>
>>             don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
>> -------------------------
>>
>> this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
>> little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
>> of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
>> needed.
>>
>> So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
>>
>>      my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
>>      $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option
>>
>> Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
>> many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.
>>
>> Any ideas welcome, please.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Za-pm mailing list
>> Za-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>>
>> posts also archived on Mail Archive
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/za-pm at pm.org/
>


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Aug 30 06:00:52 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:00:52 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <503F2382.2010103@busii.com>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za> <503F2382.2010103@busii.com>
Message-ID: <20120830130052.GA16837@fables.co.za>

Hi, Francois,

that looks like a great one-liner!

... but that isn't the only problem, only the one problem remaining
after the others have been solved which is why I used the Text::Format
module. I have got all sorts of things cooked up in the modules options.

I get my output delimited from my postgresql database (it was you that
recommended that years back, right?) and my script processes that
and gives me near-catalogue format. I'll tweak that when I have solved
this to give me html and tex formats too.

So I don't see that I can put a one liner in the module, but I'll give
it a whirl this evening, expecting that it will wreck the neat output of
the Text::Format module :) - on the outputted file, that is.

thanks to all for all the input. if I can't get it to work then I'll
try one of the larger perl sources. will keep you posted.

Anne

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:25:38AM +0200, Fran?ois Marais wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
>
>
> Hi Anne
>
> If the only problem you are tackling is breaking lines between isbn and  
> following number, then surely a simple substitute will suffice?
>
> echo 'isbn 23987
> isbn
> 98777
> isbn
> 239487
> isbn 293487
> ' |perl -p0e's/isbn\s*[\x0d\x0a]*\s*(\d+)/isbn $1/gs'
> isbn 23987
> isbn 98777
> isbn 239487
> isbn 293487
>
> (to be adjusted according to relevant line feed carriage return situation)
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29/08/2012 21:53, Anne Wainwright wrote:
>> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
>> mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
>> here:
>>
>> The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
>> ways designed to suit any conceivable need.
>>
>> This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text at a
>> sensitive point.
>>
>> In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
>> end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
>>             Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
>> on
>>             which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
>> hash.
>>             eg.
>>
>>                 {'^Mrs?\.$' =>  '^\S+$','^\S+$' =>  '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}
>>
>>             don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
>> -------------------------
>>
>> this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
>> little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
>> of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
>> needed.
>>
>> So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
>>
>>      my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
>>      $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option
>>
>> Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
>> many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.
>>
>> Any ideas welcome, please.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Za-pm mailing list
>> Za-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>>
>> posts also archived on Mail Archive
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/za-pm at pm.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Za-pm at pm.org
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>
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Fri Aug 31 00:23:53 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:23:53 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <20120831072353.GA17121@fables.co.za>

Hi,

I have had a closer look at this. 

Particularly obscure has been the reasoning behind the start and eol
anchors bracketing the regex expressions for the two words. Without
looking at the module code I believe that the workings of this is as
follows.

As each word is processed (and increasing line length calculated) so
each word is matched against the two regex. It is the matching of the 2
words "Mrs" & "Jones" that, combined, determine the action of wrapping
"Mrs" because "Jones" has been wrapped to a new line. When "Mrs" is at
the end of a line (or anywhere on a line except the first word) then the
regex will fail. The regex for "Jones" on the newline will succeed. Thus
the conbination  fail/succeed will cause the "Mrs" to be wrapped. The
various combinations of fail/succeed form a small truth table to
determine what happens. Thus fail/fail will mean both words are happily
ensconced on one line and no action is taken, as will succeed/fail.

If that is so then I wonder why the Text::Format docs include the
anchors since surely no one is expected to reason this out, and we
should surely only be expected to enter regexi (?) for the words proper,
the anchors being added by the module code. That said, the documentation
is a little ambiguous and may be showing what ends up in the hash.

Whatever, no way can I persuade  this to go, with or without my own
anchors. I have even  set "Mrs Jones" in my own input file and it does
not go.

I would ask the package maintainer (Shlomi Fish) whether there are any
issues with this but do not want to find myself at the receiving end of
some simple thing that means I am wrong. In short, I need a volunteer to
check this out independantly

Any offers?

Anne

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:53:36PM +0200, Anne Wainwright wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
> mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
> here:
> 
> The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
> ways designed to suit any conceivable need.
> 
> This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text at a
> sensitive point.
> 
> In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
> end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
>  
> ------------------------------
> noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
>            Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
> on
>            which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
> hash.
>            eg.
> 
>                {'^Mrs?\.$' => '^\S+$','^\S+$' => '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}
> 
>            don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
> -------------------------
> 
> this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
> little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
> of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
> needed.
> 
> So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
> 
>     my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
>     $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option
> 
> Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
> many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.
> 
> Any ideas welcome, please.
> 
> Anne
> 
> PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
> 
> posts also archived on Mail Archive
> http://www.mail-archive.com/za-pm at pm.org/

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sun Sep  2 12:54:23 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:54:23 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Web page updated
Message-ID: <20120902195423.GB3185@fables.co.za>

Hi,

... well nothing big really. I just updated the link to Gabor Szabo's
tutorial page.

the URL to  the za-pm site is:

http://za.pm.org

have a perlish week.

Anne

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Sep  3 12:37:05 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:37:05 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Text::Format
In-Reply-To: <20120831072353.GA17121@fables.co.za>
References: <20120829195336.GA22558@fables.co.za>
	<20120831072353.GA17121@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <20120903193705.GB1680@fables.co.za>

Hi,

Mystery solved.

I contacted Shlomi Fish who is the maintainer of this package now.

There is another option to set before this option will run. Not that it
is not clear when it is pointed out, but the wording does not tie the
two options together, in fact it looks as if this second option is a
different feature altogether. Just putting in the regexi is not good
enough.

Shlomi is going to reword this to avoid further confusion of perl
neophytes like myself.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Anne


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 09:23:53AM +0200, Anne Wainwright wrote:
> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 
> 
> Hi,o
> 
> I have had a closer look at this. 
> 
> Particularly obscure has been the reasoning behind the start and eol
> anchors bracketing the regex expressions for the two words. Without
> looking at the module code I believe that the workings of this is as
> follows.
> 
> As each word is processed (and increasing line length calculated) so
> each word is matched against the two regex. It is the matching of the 2
> words "Mrs" & "Jones" that, combined, determine the action of wrapping
> "Mrs" because "Jones" has been wrapped to a new line. When "Mrs" is at
> the end of a line (or anywhere on a line except the first word) then the
> regex will fail. The regex for "Jones" on the newline will succeed. Thus
> the conbination  fail/succeed will cause the "Mrs" to be wrapped. The
> various combinations of fail/succeed form a small truth table to
> determine what happens. Thus fail/fail will mean both words are happily
> ensconced on one line and no action is taken, as will succeed/fail.
> 
> If that is so then I wonder why the Text::Format docs include the
> anchors since surely no one is expected to reason this out, and we
> should surely only be expected to enter regexi (?) for the words proper,
> the anchors being added by the module code. That said, the documentation
> is a little ambiguous and may be showing what ends up in the hash.
> 
> Whatever, no way can I persuade  this to go, with or without my own
> anchors. I have even  set "Mrs Jones" in my own input file and it does
> not go.
> 
> I would ask the package maintainer (Shlomi Fish) whether there are any
> issues with this but do not want to find myself at the receiving end of
> some simple thing that means I am wrong. In short, I need a volunteer to
> check this out independantly
> 
> Any offers?
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:53:36PM +0200, Anne Wainwright wrote:
> > Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am using the Text::Format module. It works well but I cannot get any
> > mileage out of one feature. I'll append the section from the pod file
> > here:
> > 
> > The module will take text input from whererever and format it in various
> > ways designed to suit any conceivable need.
> > 
> > This option is in this case is to  prevent breaking of a line of text at a
> > sensitive point.
> > 
> > In my case i dont want to break "isbn 123456789" leaving "isbn" at the
> > end of the line and "123456789" at the start of the next.
> >  
> > ------------------------------
> > noBreakRegex \%HASH || NOTHING
> >            Pass in a reference to your hash that would hold the regexes
> > on
> >            which not to break.  Without any arguments, it returns the
> > hash.
> >            eg.
> > 
> >                {'^Mrs?\.$' => '^\S+$','^\S+$' => '^(?:S|J)r\.$'}
> > 
> >            don't break names such as Mr. Jones, Mrs. Jones, Jones Jr.
> > -------------------------
> > 
> > this isn't really a regex query, but just to note that the above seems a
> > little weird with "Mrs" sandwiched between both start of line and finish
> > of line anchoris. Still I can make my regex to suit if that is what is
> > needed.
> > 
> > So I have the following to get my regex into a hash:
> > 
> >     my  %regx = ('^isbn$'=>'^[0-9]{9,13}X?$');  # my regex
> >     $text->noBreakRegex(\%regx);  # this sets the option
> > 
> > Well we compile, but I have isbn breaks all over. All reasonable and
> > many unreasonable changes have no effect except to break the script.
> > 
> > Any ideas welcome, please.
> > 
> > Anne
> > 
> > PS. I am using the Padre IDE now.
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Tue Sep  4 01:03:01 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:03:01 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] Bounced emails, members retired to the Med?
Message-ID: <20120904080301.GA18753@fables.co.za>

Hi,

There has been a run of 'subscription disabled' messages. The people are

hultq at iafrica.com
dirkvanderwalt at iafrica.com
jason at dart.co.za (Jason Armstrong)
jason at tectonic.co.za
fourie_s at mtn.co.za

Messages to those addresses are bouncing, 'unknown address', so they
have moved on.

If you know any of these, won't you contact them and try to get them
back in the fold please?

Anne

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Wed Sep  5 10:59:52 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:59:52 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] New member in Shlomi Fish
Message-ID: <20120905175952.GA31061@fables.co.za>

Hi,

Having been in contact with Shlomi Fishover this weekend, having added
his tutorial pages to our web site, he has for some reason subscribed
himself to our zapm list.

I don't know that we can offer him much, but he may have lots to offer
to us based upon what I see on his website. I'll say that again, this
time based upon his willingness to help a p^4 in distress (pretty poor
perl programmer).

http://www.shlomifish.org/

is worth a visit.

Anne


From shlomif at shlomifish.org  Wed Sep  5 12:11:51 2012
From: shlomif at shlomifish.org (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:11:51 +0300
Subject: [za-pm] New member in Shlomi Fish
In-Reply-To: <20120905175952.GA31061@fables.co.za>
References: <20120905175952.GA31061@fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <20120905221151.6cf944e0@lap.shlomifish.org>

Hi Anne (and all),

On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:59:52 +0200
Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:

> Note: Beware! Default reply-to is to the list.
> 

And I indeed wish to reply to the list.

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Having been in contact with Shlomi Fish over this weekend, having
> added his tutorial pages to our web site, he has for some reason
> subscribed himself to our zapm list.

My reason is that I've subscribed to many other Perl mongers mailing lists
around the world (at least those who hold their communication in languages
I understand, namely English and Hebrew), and don't mind an extra one (having
good filters for sorting out messages from such lists into filters.).

Anyway, I was in contact with Anne regarding the Text::Format issue, and
communicating with her has highlighted a problem with the documentation (if
not the semantics of the code itself), and to this I am grateful. Following
the good advice on http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/customerservice.html 
(a recommended read), I have since improved the documentation and uploaded
a new version.

> 
> I don't know that we can offer him much, 

Well, I may enjoy the discussions here and may enjoy helping people with their
problems, that I have enough tuits to help with. 

> but he may have lots to offer
> to us based upon what I see on his website. I'll say that again, this
> time based upon his willingness to help a p^4 in distress (pretty poor
> perl programmer).
> 
> http://www.shlomifish.org/
> 
> is worth a visit.

Thanks for the recommendation. You may also find http://perl-begin.org/
interesting and useful, and I also maintain some other sites and blogs,
and there are links to them from the central site.

Stay cool!

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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I hope that you agree with me that 99.9218485921% of the users wouldn?t bother
themselves with recompilation (or any other manual step for that matter) to
make their games run 1.27127529900685765% faster ;-) ? Nadav Har?El

Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Sep  6 08:09:04 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:09:04 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] another  soul lost?
Message-ID: <20120906150904.GA27843@fables.co.za>

Hi,

If any one is in contact with

danie.robberts at bcx.co.za

please bring him back into the fold if you can.

bestest
Anne


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Fri Sep 14 01:49:31 2012
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:49:31 +0200
Subject: [za-pm] yet another member has expired
Message-ID: <20120914084931.GA5121@fables.co.za>

Hi,

A few emails and the Mailman bounce score mounts up,
and bingo - another unsubscribe.

This time zapmorg at radv2.za.net has expired. If anyone is in touch,
please let him know.

Regards
Anne