From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sun Mar  7 06:47:07 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:47:07 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] creating new file one line at a time
Message-ID: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hello,

import.txt is one record per line (imports fine into postgresql)
all I want it to add one more '|' delimiter onto the end of each line
before the newline, and save to delimited.txt
but the following perl script does not do this.
the output file is the same as the input

open (IMPORT, "import.txt") or die "file does not exist\n\n";
open (RESULT, ">delimited.txt") or die "cannot create output file\n\n";

while (<IMPORT>) {
    s/(\w)$/$1|/ ;
    print RESULT $_ ;  # write line
}

close (IMPORT) or die "cannot close input file: $!";
close (RESULT) or die "cannot close output file: $!";

any ideas, please?
since we are handling the records one at a time there should be no need
for any modifier?


Anne

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sun Mar  7 11:43:44 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:43:44 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] creating new file one line at a time
In-Reply-To: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>
References: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <20100307214344.71397a38@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hello, 

Hold fire, I have had some direct replies and one from James Keenan has
made me think that I have upstream issues with the creation of the
delimited file from the original source.

I'll post a resolution when this has been checked out.

Thanks all for the help so far.

Anne


On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:47:07 +0200
Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> import.txt is one record per line (imports fine into postgresql)
> all I want it to add one more '|' delimiter onto the end of each line
> before the newline, and save to delimited.txt
> but the following perl script does not do this.
> the output file is the same as the input
> 
> open (IMPORT, "import.txt") or die "file does not exist\n\n";
> open (RESULT, ">delimited.txt") or die "cannot create output
> file\n\n";
> 
> while (<IMPORT>) {
>     s/(\w)$/$1|/ ;
>     print RESULT $_ ;  # write line
> }
> 
> close (IMPORT) or die "cannot close input file: $!";
> close (RESULT) or die "cannot close output file: $!";
> 
> any ideas, please?
> since we are handling the records one at a time there should be no
> need for any modifier?
> 
> 
> Anne
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm

From jkeen at verizon.net  Sun Mar  7 16:17:04 2010
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:17:04 -0500
Subject: [Za-pm] creating new file one line at a time
In-Reply-To: <20100307214055.2adfb05a@pandora.fables.co.za>
References: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<F95E9DB9-B8C6-4CF1-A433-F6431BA1093C@verizon.net>
	<20100307214055.2adfb05a@pandora.fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <921B348A-6D1C-4F09-BF93-65EEAA088F0B@verizon.net>

(I didn't realize that my first post only went to Anne.  So, for the  
benefit of the list ...)


In Perl, when you read a record like this, you are reading it newline  
and all.  So what we almost always do is to first clear off the  
newline.  Then we analyze/rewrite the line as needed.  Then we print  
it to the write handle with a newline.

Try:

while (<IMPORT>) {
   chomp;
   print RESULT "$_|\n";
}

Note:  You are using global filehandles here.  Lexically scoped  
filehandles have been available in Perl since (I think) the  
introduction of 5.8 in 2002.  They're considered "best practice."  So  
what you really want in your 'open' statements is:

open my $IMPORT, '<', "import.txt" ...
open my $RESULT, '>', "delimited.txt"

... which also illustrates the 3-argument form of 'open', which is  
often (though perhaps not universally) also considered best practice.


And now to follow up further ...


I know that at my $dayjob we often have input of character-delimited  
records that arrives in DOS format.  What that means is that the  
lines actually end in '\r\n'.  One of the other programmers wrote a  
function called 'chew()' that essentially does this:

$line =~ s/(.*)(\r\n)*/$1/;

In your case, chomp may not be eliminating a final \r, so when you  
append a pipe it appears on the next line.


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Mar  8 15:50:18 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 01:50:18 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] creating new file one line at a time
In-Reply-To: <921B348A-6D1C-4F09-BF93-65EEAA088F0B@verizon.net>
References: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<F95E9DB9-B8C6-4CF1-A433-F6431BA1093C@verizon.net>
	<20100307214055.2adfb05a@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<921B348A-6D1C-4F09-BF93-65EEAA088F0B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20100309015018.0f1c5e02@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hello, James & Leon,

That was actually it. The original data originated in an old (clue) dos
database. I had a number of perl scripts developed over time to work
with the files in dos/win, change, repair, transform,  like
clue2txt, clue2pdx, & clue2htm. The clue2sql was developed from these,
but in the final line I had left in the \r\n necessary for a file being
used in dos.

Postgresql had swallowed the delimited.txt until now, \r and all, and
only when trying to add an additional field delimiter did it become
apparent.

So having now realised that and modified to suit, all appears
well.

Thanks for your ideas and input.

Shame that this group is quiet, but it always comes up with an answer
when needed!

I was surprised to find za-pm active still, it is not currently listed
on the 

http://www.pm.org/

site.

Anne


On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:17:04 -0500
James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:

> (I didn't realize that my first post only went to Anne.  So, for the  
> benefit of the list ...)
> 
> 
> In Perl, when you read a record like this, you are reading it
> newline and all.  So what we almost always do is to first clear off
> the newline.  Then we analyze/rewrite the line as needed.  Then we
> print it to the write handle with a newline.
> 
> Try:
> 
> while (<IMPORT>) {
>    chomp;
>    print RESULT "$_|\n";
> }
> 
> Note:  You are using global filehandles here.  Lexically scoped  
> filehandles have been available in Perl since (I think) the  
> introduction of 5.8 in 2002.  They're considered "best practice."
> So what you really want in your 'open' statements is:
> 
> open my $IMPORT, '<', "import.txt" ...
> open my $RESULT, '>', "delimited.txt"
> 
> ... which also illustrates the 3-argument form of 'open', which is  
> often (though perhaps not universally) also considered best practice.
> 
> 
> And now to follow up further ...
> 
> 
> I know that at my $dayjob we often have input of character-delimited  
> records that arrives in DOS format.  What that means is that the  
> lines actually end in '\r\n'.  One of the other programmers wrote a  
> function called 'chew()' that essentially does this:
> 
> $line =~ s/(.*)(\r\n)*/$1/;
> 
> In your case, chomp may not be eliminating a final \r, so when you  
> append a pipe it appears on the next line.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm

From jkeen at verizon.net  Mon Mar  8 15:56:16 2010
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Za-pm] creating new file one line at a time
In-Reply-To: <20100309015018.0f1c5e02@pandora.fables.co.za>
References: <20100307164707.1e658041@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<F95E9DB9-B8C6-4CF1-A433-F6431BA1093C@verizon.net>
	<20100307214055.2adfb05a@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<921B348A-6D1C-4F09-BF93-65EEAA088F0B@verizon.net>
	<20100309015018.0f1c5e02@pandora.fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <6C4C2676-74B4-4AEB-837E-5554E5C02666@verizon.net>


On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Anne Wainwright wrote:

> Hello, James & Leon,
>
>
> I was surprised to find za-pm active still, it is not currently listed
> on the
>
> http://www.pm.org/
>


Send information about your group to:  support at pm.org

Your group moderator(s) should subscribe to:  pm_groups at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Wed Mar 10 01:54:44 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:54:44 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw: [perl #73476] AutoReply: za-pm
Message-ID: <20100310115444.09836acc@pandora.fables.co.za>



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Hello,

za=pm is not mentioned on the site

http://www.pm.org/

There are no flags for africa although there is one other group on the
continent listed.

Anne

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Thu Mar 11 09:44:05 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:44:05 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Programming perl
Message-ID: <20100311194405.16fd3854@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hello,

you should know that I was once classified on a Paradox group as a
'casual programmer', and I have been satisfied with that appelation
ever since. Since my Sinclair days I have enjoyed dabbling with
computers and bending them to my will.

I also enjoy books, buy them non-stop, collect them like crazy. In a
bookshop recently I came across

Larry Wall & Randal L. Schwartz. PROGRAMMING PERL
January 1991 1st Printing. Complete with loose foldout 16pp reference
guide.

Not a copy listed anywhere outside of the US and I find it in a remote
corner of the Eastern Cape for R20 (got a discount on that too!). I
wonder whose it was.

Let me share a couple of snippets from this. First, from the rear cover,

"This is the authoritative guide to the hottest new UNIX utility in
years, coauthored by the creator of that utility"

"Perl is a language for easy manipulating text, files and processes.
Perl provides a more concise and readable way to do many jobs that were
formerly accomplished (with difficulty) by programming in the C
language or one of the shells. Even though Perl is not yet a standard
part of UNIX it is likely to be available at any UNIX site. And if it
isn't, users can get it and install it easily and free of charge."

Well it's come a long way since then!

The first sentence above is also the first sentence in the first
chapter, which for some reason is entitled 'Perl In A Nutshell'!

The contact details for O'Reilly include a UUCP address uunet!ora!nuts
and the email address nuts at ora.com . ora.com aliases still to
oreilly.com . I might even get an answer to my email it hasn't bounced
back yet!

A look through the chapters 'Common Tasks With Perl' and 'Real Perl
Programmes' is an insight into the administrators world with such
things as password-choosing programmes and a retab programme to prevent
tabbed code from falling off the right of the screen.

Maybe it is all very well coming into a language like perl when it is
well developed, but I think a read of this will give me food for
thought. If nothing else, current 'perl best practice' tips from James
will take a knock! Grassroots is a favourite buzzword here in ZA, but
maybe going back to check them out can be worthwhile.

Just thought I'd share this with you. And just in case you feel
tempted, not for sale at any price! I only need a trip to Sebastopol to
get it signed by Larry Wall and I can be really happy at my treasure.

bestest
Anne


From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Sun Mar 21 11:02:31 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:02:31 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
Message-ID: <20100321200231.24c3a290@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hi,

I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are not
'on the map'.

> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was bouncing
> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
> 
> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so, please
> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
> Thanks,
> 
> jhannah
> Omaha.pm
> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html


If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.

bestest
Anne

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Mar 22 01:32:57 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:32:57 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw:  Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
Message-ID: <20100322103257.707ccab0@pandora.fables.co.za>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:51 +0200
From: Spike <spike at mweb.co.za>
To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
Cc: za perlmongers <za-pm at pm.org>
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.


I vote for Anne!!
All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'
All those against please reply 'Bee!'

I would suggest we make the deadline about lunchtime.

Anne - as you have now been proposed you can't vote :-)
Please forward this to the group as I can't at the moment; there is no 
'Group Leader' to re-enable my account.

Spike

Anne Wainwright wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are not
> 'on the map'.
>
>   
>> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was bouncing
>> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
>>
>> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so, please
>> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jhannah
>> Omaha.pm
>> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html
>>     
>
>
> If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
> not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
>
> bestest
> Anne
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>
>   
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From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Mar 22 01:33:50 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:33:50 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw:  Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
Message-ID: <20100322103350.37455788@pandora.fables.co.za>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:05:44 +0200
From: Rory Austin <roryaustin at gmail.com>
To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.


I sortof am group leader but I changed email addresses. Asked someone
to change it on pm.org but they didn't...

Don't mind if somebody takes over though... I don't really do perl
anymore for the last few years.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Anne Wainwright
<anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are not
> 'on the map'.
>
>> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was bouncing
>> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
>>
>> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so, please
>> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jhannah
>> Omaha.pm
>> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html
>
>
> If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
> not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
>
> bestest
> Anne
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>

From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Mar 22 07:54:10 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:54:10 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Group leader
Message-ID: <20100322165410.28babb7e@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hi, all.

I will sign up for group leader and check out our za-pm mailing list.

Thank you for the nomination and seconding, your faith in me is
touching!

bestest
Anne





From anotheranne at fables.co.za  Mon Mar 22 07:53:16 2010
From: anotheranne at fables.co.za (Anne Wainwright)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:53:16 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Group leader
Message-ID: <20100322165316.77a1a4ef@pandora.fables.co.za>

Hi, all.

I will sign up for group leader and check out our za-pm mailing list.

Thank you for the nomination and seconding, your faith in me is
touching!

bestest
Anne





From sean.carte at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 00:00:03 2010
From: sean.carte at gmail.com (Sean Carte)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
In-Reply-To: <20100321200231.24c3a290@pandora.fables.co.za>
References: <20100321200231.24c3a290@pandora.fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <5d9253071003230000g148a62ccm229ec0de7dfb214a@mail.gmail.com>

On 21 March 2010 20:02, Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za> wrote:
>
> If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
> not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.

I don't think there is a perl requirement to lead a Perl group. Please
do take it on Anne.

Sean
-- 
Sean Carte
esAL Library Systems Manager
+27 72 898 8775
+27 31 373 2490
fax: 0866741254
http://esal.dut.ac.za/

From lvdyk at aspivia.com  Tue Mar 23 00:44:47 2010
From: lvdyk at aspivia.com (Leon Van Dyk)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:44:47 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw: Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
In-Reply-To: <20100322103257.707ccab0@pandora.fables.co.za>
References: <20100322103257.707ccab0@pandora.fables.co.za>
Message-ID: <965cb3bc1003230044g7e774601n74f8dc992ceb167e@mail.gmail.com>

*Ay*

Regards,

*Leon Van Dyk*



2010/3/22 Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>

>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:51 +0200
> From: Spike <spike at mweb.co.za>
> To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> Cc: za perlmongers <za-pm at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
>
>
> I vote for Anne!!
> All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'
> All those against please reply 'Bee!'
>
> I would suggest we make the deadline about lunchtime.
>
> Anne - as you have now been proposed you can't vote :-)
> Please forward this to the group as I can't at the moment; there is no
> 'Group Leader' to re-enable my account.
>
> Spike
>
> Anne Wainwright wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are not
> > 'on the map'.
> >
> >
> >> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was bouncing
> >> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
> >>
> >> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so, please
> >> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> jhannah
> >> Omaha.pm
> >> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html
> >>
> >
> >
> > If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
> > not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> > account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
> >
> > bestest
> > Anne
> > _______________________________________________
> > Za-pm mailing list
> > Za-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
> >
> >
>
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From winstonh at mweb.co.za  Tue Mar 23 01:07:08 2010
From: winstonh at mweb.co.za (Winston Haybittle)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:07:08 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw: Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
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Hi

My PERL skills are a little rusty, it so sad that there is so little
interest in such an awesome product!

 

I vote for Anne too?!

J

 

Winston

 

 

From: za-pm-bounces+winstonh=mweb.co.za at pm.org
[mailto:za-pm-bounces+winstonh=mweb.co.za at pm.org] On Behalf Of Leon Van Dyk
Sent: 23 March 2010 09:45 AM
To: Anne Wainwright
Cc: za perlmongers
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Fw: Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.

 

Ay


Regards,

Leon Van Dyk




2010/3/22 Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:51 +0200
From: Spike <spike at mweb.co.za>
To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
Cc: za perlmongers <za-pm at pm.org>
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.


I vote for Anne!!
All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'
All those against please reply 'Bee!'

I would suggest we make the deadline about lunchtime.

Anne - as you have now been proposed you can't vote :-)
Please forward this to the group as I can't at the moment; there is no
'Group Leader' to re-enable my account.

Spike


Anne Wainwright wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are not
> 'on the map'.
>
>
>> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was bouncing
>> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
>>
>> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so, please
>> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jhannah
>> Omaha.pm
>> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html
>>
>
>
> If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I am
> not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
>
> bestest
> Anne
> _______________________________________________
> Za-pm mailing list
> Za-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>
>

 

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From ou_ryperd at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 23 01:22:13 2010
From: ou_ryperd at hotmail.com (Walter Kruse)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:22:13 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw:  Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
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> All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'


Ay !



Regards

Walter Kruse - za.pm lurker 		 	   		  
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From njonkers at uwc.ac.za  Tue Mar 23 07:15:05 2010
From: njonkers at uwc.ac.za (Neil Jonkers)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:15:05 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw: Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
In-Reply-To: <965cb3bc1003230044g7e774601n74f8dc992ceb167e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100322103257.707ccab0@pandora.fables.co.za>
	<965cb3bc1003230044g7e774601n74f8dc992ceb167e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA8E909.6D1F.00D9.0@uwc.ac.za>

*** Ay *** Comrades

>>> Leon Van Dyk <lvdyk at aspivia.com> 3/23/2010 09:44 AM >>>
*Ay*

Regards,

*Leon Van Dyk*



2010/3/22 Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>

>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:51 +0200
> From: Spike <spike at mweb.co.za>
> To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
> Cc: za perlmongers <za-pm at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
>
>
> I vote for Anne!!
> All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'
> All those against please reply 'Bee!'
>
> I would suggest we make the deadline about lunchtime.
>
> Anne - as you have now been proposed you can't vote :-)
> Please forward this to the group as I can't at the moment; there is
no
> 'Group Leader' to re-enable my account.
>
> Spike
>
> Anne Wainwright wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are
not
> > 'on the map'.
> >
> >
> >> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was
bouncing
> >> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
> >>
> >> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so,
please
> >> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> jhannah
> >> Omaha.pm
> >> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html 
> >>
> >
> >
> > If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I
am
> > not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
> > account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
> >
> > bestest
> > Anne
> > _______________________________________________
> > Za-pm mailing list
> > Za-pm at pm.org 
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm 
> >
> >
>
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From tvilliers at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 08:59:38 2010
From: tvilliers at gmail.com (Tielman de Villiers)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:59:38 +0000
Subject: [Za-pm] Fw: Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
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	<965cb3bc1003230044g7e774601n74f8dc992ceb167e@mail.gmail.com>
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ay

2010/3/23 Neil Jonkers <njonkers at uwc.ac.za>:
> *** Ay *** Comrades
>
>>>> Leon Van Dyk <lvdyk at aspivia.com> 3/23/2010 09:44 AM >>>
> *Ay*
>
> Regards,
>
> *Leon Van Dyk*
>
>
>
> 2010/3/22 Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:07:51 +0200
>> From: Spike <spike at mweb.co.za>
>> To: Anne Wainwright <anotheranne at fables.co.za>
>> Cc: za perlmongers <za-pm at pm.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Za-pm] Will the 'group leader' stand up, please.
>>
>>
>> I vote for Anne!!
>> All those in agreement please reply 'Ay!'
>> All those against please reply 'Bee!'
>>
>> I would suggest we make the deadline about lunchtime.
>>
>> Anne - as you have now been proposed you can't vote :-)
>> Please forward this to the group as I can't at the moment; there is
> no
>> 'Group Leader' to re-enable my account.
>>
>> Spike
>>
>> Anne Wainwright wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I received a reply to my query to support at pm.org as to why we are
> not
>> > 'on the map'.
>> >
>> >
>> >> ZA.pm is flagged inactive because the group leader email was
> bouncing
>> >> last year and we couldn't reach anyone associated with the group.
>> >>
>> >> Do you live in Johannesburg and want to lead the group? If so,
> please
>> >> read the FAQ below and send in a request to reactivate the group.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> jhannah
>> >> Omaha.pm
>> >> Perl Monger Group Leader FAQ: http://groups.pm.org/faq.html
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > If this position is now defunct, we need to propose a new person. I
> am
>> > not perl-wise qualified to lead a Perl group (I can run a MailMan
>> > account with no problem, I already run four). Over to you.
>> >
>> > bestest
>> > Anne
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Za-pm mailing list
>> > Za-pm at pm.org
>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/za-pm
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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