From admin at yapcna.org Tue Dec 27 01:00:02 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (YAPC::NA Director) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 04:00:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA Has A Mailing List Message-ID: <20111227010003.2D3F81F@dm0220.mta.everyone.net> Did you know that YAPC::NA has a mailing_list? Neither did I until a couple days ago. Starting now, I???ll be cross posting our news items to the mailing list, in case that is your preferred way to receive news about YAPC::NA 2012. >From the YAPC::NA_Blog. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at yapcna.org Wed Dec 28 01:00:03 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (YAPC::NA Director) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 04:00:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Plain Black is Hiring Message-ID: <20111228010003.2DF57DD@dm0207.mta.everyone.net> If you???re looking to break in to web development, and have a chance to work on some of the coolest web apps in the Perl world,? Plain_Black is hiring 2 developers. Here???s the job description: [http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwvawrJCnY1qj3ax1.png] Plain Black is hiring and we???re looking for a geek like you. Not your average geek, but someone who wears GEEK as a badge. Someone who breathes Perl, and drinks Linux. A geek who knows that there???s more you can do with SSH than just open a terminal to a remote box. Someone who believes that Internet access is not just a human right, but that it???s as important as air, water, and shelter. If we???ve described you, then please apply. ? You must be able to: * Work independently or as a member of a team. * Be self-motivated. * Write modern Perl, not chicken scratch Perl, and be able to explain the difference. * Use and abuse relational databases like MySQL. * Be comfortable with common tools like Bash, Git, Nginx, Apache, and Vim. * Know common web development technologies like Javascript, CSS, HTML. * Prove U.S. Citizenship, as we do a lot of work for the Federal Government. ? It would be nice if you: * Have experience with Perl web development including one or more of: WebGUI, Plack, Catalyst, Dancer, or Mojolicious. * Have experience with one or more modern Javascript frameworks like jQuery, YUI, or Dojo. * Live in Madison, or at least Wisconsin, or be willing to relocate. Relocation expenses are available. ? In return we???ll provide you with: * Gainful employment with a salary of around $50,000 per year. * 100% fully paid medical and dental coverage. * Profit sharing. * A brand new high-end MacBook Pro. * Ultra flexible paid time off, up to four weeks per year to start. * An expense account. * On the job training. * An ultra-flexible work schedule. * The freedom to telecommute from anywhere. * Automatic annual cost of living increases, in addition to any other raises or bonuses you earn. Contact jt at plainblack.com with your resume to apply. >From the YAPC::NA_Blog. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 9940 bytes Desc: not available URL: From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Dec 28 08:48:09 2011 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:48:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Plain Black is Hiring In-Reply-To: <20111228010003.2DF57DD@dm0207.mta.everyone.net> References: <20111228010003.2DF57DD@dm0207.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <4EFB4849.5050601@stemsystems.com> i don't think it is appropriate to use this list for job postings. the jobs.perl.org list is meant for that. uri From admin at yapcna.org Wed Dec 28 08:55:07 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (JT Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:55:07 -0600 Subject: [yapc] Plain Black is Hiring In-Reply-To: <4EFB4849.5050601@stemsystems.com> References: <20111228010003.2DF57DD@dm0207.mta.everyone.net> <4EFB4849.5050601@stemsystems.com> Message-ID: <78351DB5-EFFD-4EB2-B5EB-048B3E975A50@yapcna.org> One of the features of being a sponsor of YAPC is that we will post your jobs announcements to our news. One of the places we post our news is this mailing list. Also, this job is also posted on jobs.perl, and is a paid advertisement on jobs.perl, so this is not only appropriate, but has also been posted to the typical channels as well. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > i don't think it is appropriate to use this list for job postings. the jobs.perl.org list is meant for that. > > uri > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From admin at yapcna.org Wed Dec 28 10:51:13 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (JT Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:51:13 -0600 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting Message-ID: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Some of you have emailed me about me posting a job to this mailing list. You're probably going to be taken aback a bit by the posting that I'm doing for YAPC::NA, because I'm doing something that has never been attempted before. I'm giving you news about YAPC::NA 2012 every single day between now and the conference. In fact, I've already been doing this for the past 6 months. You may not have known about it, because I haven't been doing it to this mailing list, because I only just found out about this mailing list. I want to keep you informed about YAPC::NA 2012. There's lots of news to share. We got lots of sponsors, information about talks and workshops and the hackathon, hotels, food, beer, sight seeing, contests, the spouses program, Perl: The Next Generation, the job fair, and much much more. Today's posting clearly ruffled a few feathers because it happens to be a job posting. Maybe it's because it's a job posting for a company that I own, I'm not sure. However, if I had been posting to this mailing list for the last 6 months (had I known about it), you would have seen job postings for Dyn, cPanel, and Best Practical already. So it's not just for Plain Black. This is actually a feature we're offering to all YAPC sponsors: http://www.yapcna.org/sponsorship/levels-of-sponsorship Another complaint that has been lodged is that this mailing list might be used by other YAPCs and clearly these sponsors haven't sponsored those other YAPCs and therefore the post is out of scope. By that reasoning, anything that didn't apply to *all* YAPCs would be out of scope, and therefore nobody would post anything to this mailing list. The mailing list is a tool for YAPC organizers to communicate with those people interested in YAPC. I was asked earlier this week why I hadn't been posting news to this mailing list since I've been posting it to blogs.perl.org and other places. I didn't know about the list, so I hadn't posted here. I'm not sorry that I'm doing something different from what has been done before. I'm attempting to bring YAPC into the modern world of event planning, so that instead of having sliding numbers from year to year, we have advancing numbers. Now that you understand where YAPC is heading, I hope that my future posts to the list won't be as jarring. JT Smith Director, YAPC::NA 2012 From perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org Wed Dec 28 10:55:56 2011 From: perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org (Ricardo Signes) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:55:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <20111228185556.GA19365@cancer.codesimply.com> I furrowed my brow when I saw that email, but then I remembered that you'd said you'd be sending all your updates to the mailing list, and I remembered how many of them were interesting and informative, and I remembered that I'm not one of the people donating thousands of dollars to make this excellent conference happen. So I stand behind you and look forward to the 167 or so messages pending between now and Schwern's keynote. -- rjbs From autarch at urth.org Wed Dec 28 12:00:00 2011 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:00:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, JT Smith wrote: > Today's posting clearly ruffled a few feathers because it happens to be > a job posting. Maybe it's because it's a job posting for a company that > I own, I'm not sure. However, if I had been posting to this mailing list > for the last 6 months (had I known about it), you would have seen job > postings for Dyn, cPanel, and Best Practical already. So it's not just > for Plain Black. This is actually a feature we're offering to all YAPC > sponsors: http://www.yapcna.org/sponsorship/levels-of-sponsorship Personally, I'm all for this. It's a simple way to enhance value for sponsors without adding a huge amount of extra work or cost for the conference. And it's not like hearing about Perl jobs is a _bad_ thing for any Perl programmers. Keep up the good work, JT. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ From rob.kinyon at gmail.com Wed Dec 28 14:33:36 2011 From: rob.kinyon at gmail.com (Rob Kinyon) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:33:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <20111228185556.GA19365@cancer.codesimply.com> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> <20111228185556.GA19365@cancer.codesimply.com> Message-ID: On Dec 28, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Ricardo Signes wrote: > > I furrowed my brow when I saw that email, but then I remembered that you'd said > you'd be sending all your updates to the mailing list, and I remembered how > many of them were interesting and informative, and I remembered that I'm not > one of the people donating thousands of dollars to make this excellent > conference happen. > > So I stand behind you and look forward to the 167 or so messages pending > between now and Schwern's keynote. > > -- > rjbs This. Exactly this. I only wish we'd thought of this two years ago. Rob Kinyon Co-organizer, YAPC::2010 From dha at panix.com Wed Dec 28 15:16:07 2011 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:16:07 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA Has A Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20111227010003.2D3F81F@dm0220.mta.everyone.net> References: <20111227010003.2D3F81F@dm0220.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20111228231606.GA24301@panix.com> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 04:00:02AM -0500, YAPC::NA Director wrote: > Did you know that YAPC::NA has a mailing_list? I can't tell you how amusing it is to see this posted on the YAPC::NA mailing list. :-) -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Well of *course* Perl should not be taught to everyone. It should only be taught to people who want to like their computers. - Larry Wall From admin at yapcna.org Wed Dec 28 15:19:20 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (JT Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:19:20 -0600 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA Has A Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20111228231606.GA24301@panix.com> References: <20111227010003.2D3F81F@dm0220.mta.everyone.net> <20111228231606.GA24301@panix.com> Message-ID: <3B8B848E-76D3-4D55-A898-449DC39811C1@yapcna.org> > I can't tell you how amusing it is to see this posted on the YAPC::NA > mailing list. :-) Heh. It is a bit meta. From todd at rinaldo.us Wed Dec 28 16:10:30 2011 From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:10:30 -0600 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM, JT Smith wrote: > Another complaint that has been lodged is that this mailing list might be used by other > YAPCs and clearly these sponsors haven't sponsored those other YAPCs and therefore > the post is out of scope. By that reasoning, anything that didn't apply to *all* YAPCs > would be out of scope, and therefore nobody would post anything to this mailing list. Eh. I've been on this list 4+ years. It's very low traffic and I rarely see non YAPC::NA emails on it. I'm glad to see you're cross posting here, since I wasn't even aware of your last 6 months of posting until I saw it here. I look forward to the future emails. Todd From admin at yapcna.org Wed Dec 28 16:55:17 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (JT Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:55:17 -0600 Subject: [yapc] contact info Message-ID: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: - EA (Electronic Arts) uses Perl for various game projects, some for patching, some for servers. - CBS Interactive / CBS Sports uses Perl for fantasy football and some other things. - Yahoo! uses Perl for lots of things, or at least used to. I'd like to find out if they still do. - There are Perl bindings for Arduino, I'd like to get someone to come talk about them or maybe even do a mini workshop. - New York Times created NYTProf and other cool goodies. However, all the email address I've tried have either bounced or gone unanswered. I'd like to see what's going on over there. If anybody else knows some cool uses of Perl like these and can provide some contact info, I'd like to know about them. I appreciate your help. From dha at panix.com Wed Dec 28 17:07:38 2011 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:07:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <20111229010738.GD24301@panix.com> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:00:00PM -0600, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, JT Smith wrote: > > >Today's posting clearly ruffled a few feathers because it happens > >to be a job posting. Maybe it's because it's a job posting for a > >company that I own, I'm not sure. However, if I had been posting > >to this mailing list for the last 6 months (had I known about it), > >you would have seen job postings for Dyn, cPanel, and Best > >Practical already. So it's not just for Plain Black. This is > >actually a feature we're offering to all YAPC sponsors: > >http://www.yapcna.org/sponsorship/levels-of-sponsorship > > Personally, I'm all for this. It's a simple way to enhance value for > sponsors without adding a huge amount of extra work or cost for the > conference. I agree. Not that this should turn into a job posting list (if that's what anyone's thinking), but I think job offers from sponsors of the conference are quite acceptable. Also, as has been pointed out, this is not a high traffic list. I think, if I'm reading JT correctly, up to one job post a day on this list is not going to be a problem. dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ It's like there's a party in my mouth and everyones drinking floor polish. - Ash (The ICT Tech with a soul) From dha at panix.com Wed Dec 28 17:12:28 2011 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:12:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <20111229011228.GE24301@panix.com> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 06:55:17PM -0600, JT Smith wrote: > I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting > things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to > invite these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm > hoping you can help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of > interest I have: Of all of the ones you mentioned, I only have one idea for contact. I'm not clear what the status of NYTProf is to the actual NYT at this point, but it's maintained by Tim Bunce, so he should have some ideas on this. dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Indeed. I don't know what I was thinking, far less what I was testing. Anno Siegel From scott at slowass.net Wed Dec 28 19:17:44 2011 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:17:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <20111229031744.GK14241@slowass.net> On 0, JT Smith wrote: > I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: > > - Yahoo! uses Perl for lots of things, or at least used to. I'd like to find out if they still do. Here's a talk given on Yahoo! Pipes, which was written in Perl. The guy who did this talk might have some leads and may himself be available. http://ajaxian.com/archives/pipes-a-tech-talk Outside of the topic of large companies using Perl, I'd love to hear a talk from the guy who did this Perl SDL game: http://ue.o---o.eu/ Cheers, -scott From autarch at urth.org Wed Dec 28 19:49:33 2011 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:49:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, JT Smith wrote: > - There are Perl bindings for Arduino, I'd like to get someone to come talk about them or maybe even do a mini workshop. Robert Black has given talks about Arduino at previous Perl conferences. He's the person to talk to for this. -dave /*============================================================ http://VegGuide.org http://blog.urth.org Your guide to all that's veg House Absolute(ly Pointless) ============================================================*/ From c.nehren/yapc at shadowcat.co.uk Wed Dec 28 20:43:13 2011 From: c.nehren/yapc at shadowcat.co.uk (Chris Nehren) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:43:13 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <268B8D48-0465-4303-B80D-2CB88F25F79F@shadowcat.co.uk> On Dec 28, 2011, at 22:49, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, JT Smith wrote: > >> - There are Perl bindings for Arduino, I'd like to get someone to come talk about them or maybe even do a mini workshop. > > Robert Black has given talks about Arduino at previous Perl conferences. He's the person to talk to for this. > I think you mean Robert Blackwell, rblackwe on IRC. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren From gabor at szabgab.com Wed Dec 28 23:09:44 2011 From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:09:44 +0200 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:51 PM, JT Smith wrote: > Today's posting clearly ruffled a few feathers because it happens to be a job posting. Maybe it's because it's a job posting for a company that I own, I'm not sure. I think the coincidence of you finding out about this list, starting to send your updates here AND the job-post of your company could have cause uneasy feelings to some people, but I trust they too will understand that this was just an unlucky coincidence and they will get daily updates on a lot of topic including rooftop shots http://blog.yapcna.org/post/14205426272/this-is-a-shot-of-the-rooftop-terrace-on-the-pyle bus schedule http://blog.yapcna.org/post/14498684572/go-lamers-bus-lines-to-yapc and yes, sometimes even job posts: http://blog.yapcna.org/post/13977841970/best-practical-has-a-perl-hacker-job-opening-that I think its OK though now I am getting already 4 copies of each one of your announcement :) regards Gabor From yapc at perlmeister.com Wed Dec 28 23:28:32 2011 From: yapc at perlmeister.com (Mike Schilli) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:28:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, JT Smith wrote: > Yahoo! uses Perl for lots of things, or at least used to. I'd like to > find out if they still do. Confirmed. At Yahoo, lots of backend applications are written in Perl, especially for package management, distribution, installation, host configuration, and mass deployments. I'm working on one. -- -- Mike Mike Schilli yapc at perlmeister.com From chas.owens at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 03:36:04 2011 From: chas.owens at gmail.com (Chas. Owens) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 06:36:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Explanation About YAPC::NA News Posting In-Reply-To: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> References: <56F0383C-33BE-4641-8ACB-8C16A0DFFD18@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:51, JT Smith wrote: > Today's posting clearly ruffled a few feathers because it happens to be a job posting. Perhaps you could prefix the subject line with the type of the announcement. This would allow people who did not wish to receive certain types of announcements to filter them out, but still get the ones about things like scheduling, etc. -- Chas. Owens wonkden.net The most important skill a programmer can have is the ability to read. From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Dec 29 07:49:39 2011 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:49:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <4EFC8C13.3000904@stemsystems.com> On 12/28/2011 07:55 PM, JT Smith wrote: > I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: > > - CBS Interactive / CBS Sports uses Perl for fantasy football and some other things. i consulted for cbs sportsline (around the time of yapc::boca). its president then was peter pezaris who is now the founder of multiply.com. you can likely reach him there and possibly he still has contacts back into cbs sportsline. uri From jbisbee at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 07:54:53 2011 From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:54:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <4EFC8C13.3000904@stemsystems.com> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> <4EFC8C13.3000904@stemsystems.com> Message-ID: I work at cbssports.com and JT already contacted me (sorry for not responding right away) Don't think we'll be doing the job fair this year but I will be checking into a donation. Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > On 12/28/2011 07:55 PM, JT Smith wrote: > >> I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting >> things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite >> these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can >> help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: >> >> > - CBS Interactive / CBS Sports uses Perl for fantasy football and some >> other things. >> > > i consulted for cbs sportsline (around the time of yapc::boca). its > president then was peter pezaris who is now the founder of multiply.com. > you can likely reach him there and possibly he still has contacts back into > cbs sportsline. > > uri > > ______________________________**_________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at yapcna.org Thu Dec 29 16:29:40 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (JT Smith) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:29:40 -0600 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <20111229031744.GK14241@slowass.net> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> <20111229031744.GK14241@slowass.net> Message-ID: I've dropped him an email to see if he'd be interested in coming. On Dec 28, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Scott Walters wrote: > Outside of the topic of large companies using Perl, I'd love to hear a talk > from the guy who did this Perl SDL game: > > http://ue.o---o.eu/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ddascalescu+yapc at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 22:17:25 2011 From: ddascalescu+yapc at gmail.com (Dan Dascalescu) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:17:25 -0700 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 17:55, JT Smith wrote: > I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting > things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite > these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can > help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: > > - Yahoo! uses Perl for lots of things, or at least used to. I'd like to > find out if they still do. > Yahoo! used Perl for Delicious, but now Delicious was sold to AVOS and they migrated to, I think, PHP. Yahoo! still uses Perl for its internal wiki, powered by TWiki/Foswiki. (I'm no longer at Yahoo! so I can't speak about this but you may want to contact Tim Heilig - http://foswiki.org/Community/CompaniesAreUpgradingToFoswiki#Yahoo Dan -- CIO, Blueseed The visa-free offshore startup incubator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcaputo at pobox.com Fri Dec 30 09:45:14 2011 From: rcaputo at pobox.com (Rocco Caputo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:45:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] contact info In-Reply-To: References: <6A327691-86E2-4E09-A869-643719DF88C1@yapcna.org> Message-ID: <46955854-BFEB-4657-9B47-A2DF6C7B248C@pobox.com> On Dec 30, 2011, at 01:17, Dan Dascalescu wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 17:55, JT Smith wrote: >> I'm looking for some contact info for people who do very interesting things with Perl that aren't highlighted all that much. I'd like to invite these people to come speak about what they do at YAPC. I'm hoping you can help me get some email addresses. Here are the areas of interest I have: >> >> - Yahoo! uses Perl for lots of things, or at least used to. I'd like to find out if they still do. > > Yahoo! used Perl for Delicious, but now Delicious was sold to AVOS and they migrated to, I think, PHP. Yahoo! turned del.icio.us into a mix of PHP (front-end), and C++, Perl, Erlang and Python on the back end. It was almost entirely entrepreneurial-grade Perl and Mason before that. The sudden proliferation of languages was a side effect of merging the Yahoo! Bookmarks and MyWeb teams into del.icio.us. A small, concise team suddenly acquired many new points of view and more management than strictly needed. The new team divided into small, relatively isolated groups. Each had the goal of rewriting part of the site atop Yahoo!'s proprietary platforms. Each group chose its implementation language(s) based on local needs. Maintaining the results as a holistic system wasn't always pleasant. It wasn't a total loss, though. I was blessed with the opportunity to practice C++ and become "functional" in Erlang and Python. All those proprietary Yahoo! technologies had to be scraped off before Delicious could be transferred to AVOS. I suspect it was easier to rewrite most (if not all) of it since so much relied on unsharable things. The back-end engineer who survived Delicious' "sunsetting" liked Python, so it probably ended up that. -- Rocco Caputo From admin at yapcna.org Fri Dec 30 01:00:03 2011 From: admin at yapcna.org (YAPC::NA Director) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:00:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] This is a shot of the Gale VendeBerg Auditorium in the Pyle... Message-ID: <20111230010004.2DC9CBF@dm0220.mta.everyone.net> [http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltugpsYkHJ1qm5pt2o1_500.jpg] This is a shot of the Gale VendeBerg Auditorium in the Pyle Center. It will be used for many of the talks at YAPC::NA_2012. >From the YAPC::NA_Blog. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On the top floor they have the most amazing selection of mustards for purchase you have ever seen, literally hundreds of types of mustards. And best of all, you can sample any mustard in the store whether you intend to buy or not. You will have to take a bus, a cab, or drive though, because the National Mustard Museum is about 6 miles from the YAPC facilities. It???s worth the effort. This is a possible destination for the Spouses_Program. >From the YAPC::NA_Blog. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 18787 bytes Desc: not available URL: