[yapc] Talk submissions are closed

[Scott Walters]

Dave S,

Sounds awesome!  Write your talk as a Lightning Talk and submit
it as a Lightning Talk.  Practise by accosting random strangers
in elevators and telling them about your module =)

I'm just getting ready to clean up and test Test::Float, which
I presented at Frozen Perl.  It uses a modified Test::Harness 
that takes floating point return values from tests with PPI and a 
Bayesian chatterbot hooked to a genetic algorithm to automatically
write your code for you given tests =)

-scott
:1,$s!$! =)!


On  0, Dave Stoddard <dgs at accelix.net> wrote:
> I have a talk I would like to submit, and I was attempting
> to complete the proposal submission form when the window
> closed.  I was not ready to do this a month ago as I had too
> many balls in the air.
> 
> What time do the normal talks close?  Would there be any
> chance of doing an overtime talk?  FWIW, I have a pretty
> nifty code generator for Perl that I am getting ready to
> release as open source, and there may be a few folks that
> would be interested in learning more about it.
> Best,
> 
> Dave Stoddard
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yapc-bounces+dgs=accelix.net at pm.org [mailto:yapc-
> > bounces+dgs=accelix.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of David Fetter
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:50 PM
> > To: Matt S Trout
> > Cc: yapc at pm.org
> > Subject: Re: [yapc] Talk submissions are closed
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 07:42:08PM +0100, Matt S Trout wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:02:42AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 01:46:34PM -0400, Rob Kinyon wrote:
> > > > > The last couple slots have been taken. So, unless you can
> > > > > convince a friend to drop his talk, the only option is a
> > > > > lightning talk on Monday or Tuesday.
> > > >
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > I know you meant well by this, but please, NEVER encourage anyone
> > > > to do their not-accepted long talk as a lightning talk.  It simply
> > > > won't fit in the time allotted, and makes the speaker look like a
> > > > desperate fool.  A lightning talk is a completely different beast
> > > > from any other kind, and is something you write from the ground up
> > > > as a lightning talk.
> > >
> > > David, I know you meant well by this, but please, NEVER discourage
> > > somebody from submitting a lightning talk for any reason.
> > 
> > Matt,
> > 
> > You're mistaken on this.  I have data, and quite a bit of it, as you
> > know.
> > 
> > I've watched people try to "condense" longer talks into lightning
> > talks, and not one time EVER has a good thing come out of it.  Not
> > once have I ever seen the person making this mistake do a lightning
> > talk that was better later, nor, for that matter, a longer
> > presentation later.  The humiliation is inevitable, and that's an
> > incredibly potent de-motivator, both for the potential speaker and for
> > the audience.
> > 
> > Doing that is a speaker-career-ending move.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > David.
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