[yapc] YAPC
Darcy Whyte
darcy.whyte at gmail.com
Mon Jun 9 10:20:35 PDT 2008
Sounds like a lot of fun. I've decided to pop out from Ottawa, Ontario.
I'm coming on my motorbike to save money and simplify logistics once I'm
there. I'm assuming that if I register on the Web, the 100 covers the entire
conference and the $20 covers all parking?
I'm looking forward to meeting you all.
If there is a conference like this for PHP that would be cool too!
Darcy
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> 1. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Elizabeth Cortell)
> 2. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (David Moreno)
> 3. arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman)
> 4. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman)
> 5. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman)
> 6. Re: arrival dinner votes (Kent Cowgill)
> 7. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Gabor Szabo)
> 8. Dinner and/or Auction? (Walt Mankowski)
> 9. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Jay Hannah)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:24:26 -0700
> From: Elizabeth Cortell <zrusilla at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11
> To: Perrin Harkins <perrin at elem.com>
> Cc: Ingy dot Net <ingy at ttul.org>, yapc at pm.org
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> >> True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price.
>
> More than can be said for gasoline, that's for sure.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:47:55 -0400
> From: David Moreno <damogar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11
> To: Perrin Harkins <perrin at elem.com>
> Cc: Ingy dot Net <ingy at ttul.org>, yapc at pm.org
> Message-ID: <1212965275.4450.0.camel at puerca>
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> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 18:15 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ingy dot Net <ingy at ttul.org> wrote:
> > > It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has
> > > steadily gone up.
> >
> > True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price.
>
> Or less, if paid in advance ;)
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:37:13 -0400
> From: Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com>
> Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes
> To: yapc at mail.pm.org
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>
> hi all you hungry and thirsty yapc'ers,
>
> the votes are in and it looks like the arrival dinner will be:
>
> CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS Served with an Asian plum sauce (15 votes)
>
> MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES Slow roasted BBQ pulled pork covered
> with Honkers Ale BBQ sauce (12 votes)
>
> there are 44 people signed up so i will order for 50 people (the minumum
> to have the room) as i am sure at least 6 more will signup or walk-in.
>
> remember to BRING CASH. no diamonds, gold bars, secret chips, redmond
> software coupons will be accepted. it will be $30/person.
>
> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on
> stun.
>
> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:46:51 -0400
> From: Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes
> To: "David E. Wheeler" <david at kineticode.com>
> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org
> Message-ID: <x7zlpve0d0.fsf at mail.sysarch.com>
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> >>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler <david at kineticode.com> writes:
>
> DEW> On Jun 8, 2008, at 19:37, Uri Guttman wrote:
> >> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on
> >> stun.
> >>
> >> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars.
>
> DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that
> DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough.
>
> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago much
> better than i do.
>
> DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the
> DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or
> DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then
> DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there?
>
> good questions. i doubt you will get to the
> dinner by the el in time for anything. between baggage claim and the
> train it could be 90 minutes. correct me if i am off. if you can pay for
> a cab or car service it would be fastest but not cheap. and i would go
> to the dinner directly so as to not waste time at the dorms. i would bet
> josh or someone could get you into your dorm after the dinner.
>
> anyone have better answers?
>
> uri, the yapc expert on chicago from my one visit at the last yapc
> there.
>
> --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:01:05 -0400
> From: Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes
> To: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org
> Message-ID: <x7d4mrdzpa.fsf at mail.sysarch.com>
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>
> JM> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler <david at kineticode.com> writes:
> DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that
> DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough.
> >>
> >> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago
> much
> >> better than i do.
> >>
> DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the
> DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or
> DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then
> DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there?
>
> >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> writes:
>
> JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can theoretically get
> JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip
> JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is
> JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the time for
> JM> considerably more $$.
>
> see, i didn't know shit so why did you email me offlist?! :)
>
> and i even read your arrival military time incorrectly as 7pm. d'oh!!
>
> uri, who knows diddly about 24 vs 12 hour times.
>
> --
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:49:22 -0500
> From: Kent Cowgill <kent at c2group.net>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes
> To: Uri Guttman <uri at stemsystems.com>
> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org
> Message-ID: <D3FC571E-9E7E-422A-B92C-CCC6E954E42B at c2group.net>
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>
> On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Uri Guttman quoted Josh McAdams (JM):
> >
> > JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can
> > theoretically get
> > JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip
> > JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is
> > JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the
> > time for
> > JM> considerably more $$.
>
>
> As a general rule, transferring from train to bus makes you stand
> around for a while waiting for the bus, unless the bus route is an
> exceptionally well-bused route.
>
> And trains and buses run less often on weekends, usually. But for
> buses, traffic is generally lighter.
>
> What does all this mean?
>
> It means the 50 minutes as quoted by the CTA trip planner is likely a
> bit optimistic.
>
> A cab from O'Hare to the Wrigleyville Goose Island (yes, there's
> another one!) might set you back about $30, and take about 25 minutes.
>
> If you take the El from O'Hare to the Addison stop, and then take a
> cab, the train will be $1.75 and the cab probably around $15, and take
> maybe 35 minutes.
>
> Take the El and transfer to the bus costs a total of $2-$3, and will
> probably take an hour or so, more if you have a lot of wait for the
> bus. Or less if luck is on your side.
>
>
> -Kent Cowgill
>
> C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net
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>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:16:18 +0300
> From: "Gabor Szabo" <szabgab at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11
> To: yapc at pm.org
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> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Perrin Harkins <perrin at elem.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true!
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :)
> >
> > Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more
> > impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the
> > world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is
> > getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind
> > if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best
> > possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I
> > wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up
> > with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning.
> >
>
> While I am not familiar with the exact financial issues of YAPC::NA or
> YAPC::EU, it seems they have all had profit.
> At least in the recent 2-3 years.
>
> IMHO the greatest burden on the organizers is not the lack of money
> but the time one needs to spend and the lack of helping hands.
>
> For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to
> some tasks:
> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers
>
> A lot of the expenses are covered by sponsors - so getting sponsors is a
> great way to help but I think it is mostly relevant for next year.
> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/sponsorship.html
>
> Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the
> conference.
> At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-(
>
>
> regards
> Gabor
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:13:56 -0400
> From: Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com>
> Subject: [yapc] Dinner and/or Auction?
> To: yapc at pm.org
> Message-ID: <20080609121356.GR7958 at mawode.com>
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> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:16:18AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the
> > conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction
> > on YAPC::NA :-(
>
> In recent years there's traditionally been an auction after the
> conference dinner on Tuesday night. But I don't see either the dinner
> or the auction on the schedule. I was assuming there must be some
> last-minute work going on behind the scenes on that, but I don't know.
>
> Is there anything planned for Tuesday night?
>
> Walt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:22 -0500
> From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11
> To: yapc at pm.org
> Message-ID: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208 at jays.net>
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> On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> > For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to
> > some tasks:
> > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers
>
> Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :)
>
> > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of
> > the conference.
> > At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-(
>
> ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still
> putting it on my resume. :)
>
> j
>
>
>
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