From szabgab at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 08:34:35 2008
From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:34:35 +0300
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
Message-ID: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>

I know, I know but I just looked at it and http://yapc.org is out of date.

http://yapceurope.org/ is better but I don't see any prominent link
from one to the other.

Oh yes I just looked at http://pycon.org/ and I saw a few things
1) There are more python events than just PyCon, so we can keep bragging
     about how many Perl events there are but we should not say there
is only one Python conference.
2) It has prominent links to each one of the events (thought without dates)
     that *does not require scrolling down*.
     I like the improvements on yapc.org site but I think it would be
better to have a short list of
     events visible without scrolling down.

Gabor

From jbisbee at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 11:14:18 2008
From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:14:18 -0400
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>

I definitely agree with Gabor.  It was a pain going to yapc.org and it
not linking driectly to yapc.or/America redirect.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Gabor Szabo <szabgab at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know, I know but I just looked at it and http://yapc.org is out of date.
>
> http://yapceurope.org/ is better but I don't see any prominent link
> from one to the other.
>
> Oh yes I just looked at http://pycon.org/ and I saw a few things
> 1) There are more python events than just PyCon, so we can keep bragging
>     about how many Perl events there are but we should not say there
> is only one Python conference.
> 2) It has prominent links to each one of the events (thought without dates)
>     that *does not require scrolling down*.
>     I like the improvements on yapc.org site but I think it would be
> better to have a short list of
>     events visible without scrolling down.
>
> Gabor
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>



-- 
Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com

From ann at domaintje.com  Fri Jul  4 11:25:45 2008
From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:25:45 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080704201114.G12911@primus.biocede.com>

I'm including the group responsible for yapceurope.org in this mail.


On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote:

> I know, I know but I just looked at it and http://yapc.org is out of date.
>
> http://yapceurope.org/ is better but I don't see any prominent link
> from one to the other.

The yapceurope.org website is for the YAPC::Europe Foundation, not
just for YAPC::EU conferences.  This is why the website links (on
the front page) to TPF, which is closer to the same scope as YEF.

The 'Conferences' page (http://www.yapceurope.org/conferences.html)
lists all previous YAPC::EU conferences and also links to other
YAPCs.  The North America site links to http://yapc.org/America
which is currently redirecting to the Act website for Chicago.

I'm not sure where a link to yapc.org would fit in.  Perhaps it
should be on the conference page, or perhaps there should be a
page with 'additional perl resources' although I'm not sure I
want to maintain a list of perl websites.

Do you have any suggestions as to where yapceurope.org could
link to yapc.org, bearing in mind the purpose of the site (which
to me suggests that it does not belong on the front page)?

- Ann


From adam.prime at utoronto.ca  Fri Jul  4 12:15:38 2008
From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (adam.prime at utoronto.ca)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:15:38 -0400
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>

Quoting Jeff Bisbee <jbisbee at gmail.com>:

> I definitely agree with Gabor.  It was a pain going to yapc.org and it
> not linking driectly to yapc.or/America redirect.

There is a link to yapc.org/America, it's just buried in the copy.   
The link on the conference name links to the google calender event  
that drives the whole thing (which probably isn't really how it should  
work)

The script that generates that page is in the google code repository  
though, so i'm sure you could submit a patch to make it better and  
they'd love you forever.

http://tpf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/yapc/yapc_org/bin/extract_cal_events.pl

As for why it's out of date, maybe a cron job isn't running? (or isn't  
running enough)

Adam


From fluhmann at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 13:44:19 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:44:19 -0500
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0807041344k5a017114v1050a9e1f63b4b2b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:15 PM, <adam.prime at utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Quoting Jeff Bisbee <jbisbee at gmail.com>:
>
>  I definitely agree with Gabor.  It was a pain going to yapc.org and it
>> not linking driectly to yapc.or/America redirect.
>>
>
> There is a link to yapc.org/America, it's just buried in the copy.  The
> link on the conference name links to the google calender event that drives
> the whole thing (which probably isn't really how it should work)
>
> The script that generates that page is in the google code repository
> though, so i'm sure you could submit a patch to make it better and they'd
> love you forever.
>
> http://tpf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/yapc/yapc_org/bin/extract_cal_events.pl
>
> As for why it's out of date, maybe a cron job isn't running? (or isn't
> running enough)


Being out of date is my fault.  I've been away for the past two weeks and
haven't updated to upcoming events.  I'm doing that now and I'll update some
of the other stuff as soon as I get a chance.

Thanks,
Jeremy
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From cbrandt at buffalo.edu  Mon Jul  7 06:37:35 2008
From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:37:35 -0400
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>	<e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <48721C1F.5090208@buffalo.edu>


adam.prime at utoronto.ca wrote:
> Quoting Jeff Bisbee <jbisbee at gmail.com>:
> 
>> I definitely agree with Gabor.  It was a pain going to yapc.org and it
>> not linking driectly to yapc.or/America redirect.
> 
> There is a link to yapc.org/America, it's just buried in the copy.  The 
> link on the conference name links to the google calender event that 
> drives the whole thing (which probably isn't really how it should work)
> 

That's correct, the list of events is driven by The Perl Review events 
calendar. Those events don't have a way to include an event link, so the 
only way to get the event link is include it in the event description.

We could try to parse the event description to get the link, or suggest 
some standards for the description text to make it easier, but I think 
this would be error prone. My main goal was to make this as automatic as 
possible (I know, I'm lazy).

As far as how it should work, I'm all ears if someone wants to suggest 
something (and offer the time to implement the suggestion).


> The script that generates that page is in the google code repository 
> though, so i'm sure you could submit a patch to make it better and 
> they'd love you forever.
> 
> http://tpf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/yapc/yapc_org/bin/extract_cal_events.pl

Indeed we would, at least for a while.


-- 
Jim Brandt
The Perl Foundation
email: cbrandt at perlfoundation.org

From ann at domaintje.com  Mon Jul  7 08:08:47 2008
From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:08:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [yapc] yapc.org out of date
In-Reply-To: <48721C1F.5090208@buffalo.edu>
References: <d8a74af10807040834j15887ad1x8520edb13be6302d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e07cf2d10807041114v492048fds3c6498386e720a94@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080704151538.mne3u3paocw8wwow@webmail.utoronto.ca>
	<48721C1F.5090208@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <20080707170417.M44574@primus.biocede.com>

> That's correct, the list of events is driven by The Perl Review events 
> calendar. Those events don't have a way to include an event link, so the only 
> way to get the event link is include it in the event description.
>
> We could try to parse the event description to get the link, or suggest some 
> standards for the description text to make it easier, but I think this would 
> be error prone. My main goal was to make this as automatic as possible (I 
> know, I'm lazy).
>
> As far as how it should work, I'm all ears if someone wants to suggest 
> something (and offer the time to implement the suggestion).

Out of curiosity, how are things getting on the Google calendar in the
first place?

Have you considered using BooK's YAML export of Perl events which are
using their instance of Act (http://www.yapceurope.org/conferences.yml)
as another data source?

- Ann

From david at kineticode.com  Wed Jul 16 23:21:31 2008
From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:21:31 -0700
Subject: [yapc] Finally Finished Posting Photos
Message-ID: <3B3CB1E5-83A9-46F6-98FF-2FCD060A3C83@kineticode.com>

Hi Everyone,

I finally finished posting my photos from YAPC. I took around 800  
photos, I think, maybe 1000 (I threw a lot out), and settled on 265 to  
upload to Flickr (still too many, sorry). I went especially ape-shit  
at Millennium Park and the Speakers Party. Anyway, full set here:

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/theory/sets/72157605635074844/

Everyone's Flickr-uploaded photos from the conference are here:

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/yapcna2008/

999 photos. Sheesh, can't someone add one more? ;-)

Enjoy!

David