From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Sun Jun 1 01:02:28 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] Commuting to Boca? In-Reply-To: <20030531132600.GA27828@biz> (Jeff Bisbee's message of "Sat, 31 May 2003 09:26:00 -0400") References: <20030529050552.GI993@ny-kenton2a-710.buf.adelphia.net> <20030529172456.GA9081@biz> <3ED6483C.C18BE360@noaa.gov> <20030529191328.GA14864@biz> <20030531132600.GA27828@biz> Message-ID: Jeff Bisbee writes: > * Piers Cawley (pdcawley@bofh.org.uk) wrote: >> For various reasons to do with having family working there, my wife at >> least will be staying at the Miami Biltmore (in Coral Gables) and, >> whilst I'm sure the dorm rooms are lovely, I find myself wondering how >> long the journey is from there to YAPC... Anyone know? > > Miami Biltmore: 1200 Anastasia Av, Coral Gables, FL 33134-6339 > FAU: 777 Glades Rd, Boca Raton, FL 33431-6424 > Distance: 51.9 miles > > http://maps.yahoo.com/py/ddResults.py?Pyt=Tmap&ed=SQPP_OV.wimJB8kpdWpN2rRlZeU9yv2aq.C1GswBsHDwz0vTo18GvEDHiUxe_wDHy.lVFc4JcB0bK_RMbadWksk08vHgYHE-&newcsz=Coral+Gables,+FL+33134+&newcountry=us&newtcsz=Boca+Raton,+FL&newtcountry=us So, take the dorm room then. If I wanted to spend over two hours a day commuting I could get a job. -- Piers From mark at nolab.conman.org Mon Jun 2 00:09:12 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] The campus vacinity ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 May 2003, Todd Olson wrote: > There seems to be a "Whole Foods Market" right across the street > from the campus. Is that so? It's across Glades road. Depending on which end of campus you are in, it could be a 15-20 minute walk. > What sort of restaurants are the within walking distance? > I'm interested in something better than a burger. In South Florida practically nothing is walking distance. :-( There is a PF Changs (Chinese), J Alexander's (Steak) and a French Restraunt in the same plaza as the Whole Foods. Also, there is a Circuit City and Borders there too. > It is possible to walk? Or is it all highways that you can't walk along. > It is safe to walk? Even at 9 or 10 pm? Off campus? On campus? It's a very safe area. As for walking, FAU happens to be in a mostly residential area (it's a 10 minute walk from my house)... I really don't know how far you can get without a vehicle. L8r, Mark G. From mark at nolab.conman.org Mon Jun 2 00:12:52 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] sushi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 May 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: > > MG> There is another place, called the Kyojin buffet. It's a bit more > MG> expensive, but they have more variety for non-Sushi eaters as > MG> well. The highpoint of that place is the all-you-can-eat > MG> Hibachi. :-) This place is on Powerline Road, just south of > MG> Glades. > > i wanna try that one night. maybe sunday when i get in. anyone for that? > the problem is that tuesday is the conf dinner and the movie and wed is Maybe. Me and my girlfriend (also attending the conference) go there all the time. I will ask her if she would be up for company. > other than the steambath issues, i will have fun. :) Damn is it hot here. L8r, Mark G. From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 2 00:39:36 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: (Mark Grosberg's message of "Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:12:52 -0400 (EDT)") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: MG> On Fri, 30 May 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: >> >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: >> MG> There is another place, called the Kyojin buffet. It's a bit more MG> expensive, but they have more variety for non-Sushi eaters as MG> well. The highpoint of that place is the all-you-can-eat MG> Hibachi. :-) This place is on Powerline Road, just south of MG> Glades. >> >> i wanna try that one night. maybe sunday when i get in. anyone for that? >> the problem is that tuesday is the conf dinner and the movie and wed is MG> Maybe. Me and my girlfriend (also attending the conference) go there all MG> the time. I will ask her if she would be up for company. i land at PBI at 5:46 so i expect to be able to do dinner at 8 or so. let's pencil this in for for sunday night at this place. others are welcome too. call it the welcome to yapc self organizing dinner. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From ceverett at ceverett.com Mon Jun 2 06:30:30 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) References: Message-ID: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Hmph. Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From jduncan at fotango.com Mon Jun 2 06:25:39 2003 From: jduncan at fotango.com (James A. Duncan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 12:30 PM, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > Hmph. > > Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? My experience of Cuban food in Cuba was that you can have three types of sandwich: Ham, Cheese, or Ham and Cheese. I'd actually be interested to try Cuban food in Florida, and I'd very much like to be proven wrong :-) Regards, James. From dbryan at geowebhouse.com Mon Jun 2 07:59:58 2003 From: dbryan at geowebhouse.com (Derek Bryan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) References: Message-ID: <004701c32906$df6d9830$01329ec5@THEAGELESS.COM> my $order = new Food::Order ( -method => 'Delivery', -type => 'Pizza' ); $order->execute() or die 'Of Starvation'; chomp $order->result(); From perlguy at perlguy.com Mon Jun 2 08:19:05 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030602131905.GD76389@perlguy.com> I should be at the doubletree on Sunday night. I'm dropping my daughter off at my sister-in-laws, stopping at my house to pick up my flask of Scotch, and headed up to the hotel. I'll probably be there between 6 and 7. If I'm not too stressed out, I'd be up for dinner. On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:39:36AM -0400, Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) said something similar to: > >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: > > MG> On Fri, 30 May 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > > >> >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: > >> > MG> There is another place, called the Kyojin buffet. It's a bit more > MG> expensive, but they have more variety for non-Sushi eaters as > MG> well. The highpoint of that place is the all-you-can-eat > MG> Hibachi. :-) This place is on Powerline Road, just south of > MG> Glades. > >> > >> i wanna try that one night. maybe sunday when i get in. anyone for that? > >> the problem is that tuesday is the conf dinner and the movie and wed is > > MG> Maybe. Me and my girlfriend (also attending the conference) go there all > MG> the time. I will ask her if she would be up for company. > > i land at PBI at 5:46 so i expect to be able to do dinner at 8 or > so. let's pencil this in for for sunday night at this place. others are > welcome too. call it the welcome to yapc self organizing dinner. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had. -- Linus Torvalds From perlguy at perlguy.com Mon Jun 2 08:24:40 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] The campus vacinity ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030602132440.GF76389@perlguy.com> From andrew at broscom.com Mon Jun 2 08:16:41 2003 From: andrew at broscom.com (Andrew Brosnan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) Message-ID: On 6/2/03 at 8:59 AM, dbryan@geowebhouse.com (Derek Bryan) wrote: > my $order = new Food::Order ( -method => 'Delivery', -type => 'Pizza' ); > > $order->execute() or die 'Of Starvation'; > > chomp $order->result(); I'm with ya- use STOVE qw/fried baked broiled/; barf->meal() unless $cooked; From Kdib at aol.com Mon Jun 2 08:17:51 2003 From: Kdib at aol.com (Kdib@aol.com) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] Re: sunday night dinner Message-ID: <144.12b0c1e7.2c0ca87f@aol.com> OK, I am up for it. Regardless of the choice of food [within reason :-) ]. I am arriving Saturday at the Double Tree and hitting the Dive Boat first thing Sunday morning. After my 4 dives I will be starving, so please, please and please again leave directions for the PERL Sunday Night Dinner with the receptionist. Many Thanks Karsten -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20030602/b3538145/attachment.htm From pk-sofla-pm at kailasa.net Mon Jun 2 08:25:43 2003 From: pk-sofla-pm at kailasa.net (Prakash Kailasa) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:37 2004 Subject: [yapc] Shuttle service from airport and room availability In-Reply-To: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> References: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> Message-ID: <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> I happened meet my doubletree contact this weekend and asked him about the shuttle service. Here's what I found. - The shuttle service is not provided by Doubletree itself, but by a third party. Doubletree provides their contact number and the guests would call them directly to make arrangements. - They have this service available not only from Palm Beach, but also from Ft. Lauderdale and Miami airports. PBI and FLL shuttles cost $15 per person, MIA costs $25 (please double check these numbers as he wasn't 100% sure about them). So, if you want to use this service, call the hotel to get the number of ths shuttle service and make necessary arrangements. Also, I remember to have read (either on the list or #yapc) about limited availability of rooms at the hotel. My contact mentioned that only the block of rooms reserved for YAPC might have been used up and they would gladly open up a new block of rooms if demand is there. HTH, /prakash On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 12:43:41PM -0400, Maryjane R. Eldred wrote: > Double Tree has a shuttle service between the Palm Beach airport and > hotel for $15 and free shuttle service between the campus and hotel. > > On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 00:02, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > I'll be arriving Saturday, June 14 just after 3PM. I'd love to share a > > ride with others going to the DoubleTree. If we get at least 4 people the > > floridalimo.com service is pretty cheap, and a quicker ride than a shared > > ride with people going to other destinations. > > > > If we get 10-11 it's really cheap. > > > > > > -dave > > > > /*======================= > > House Absolute Consulting > > www.houseabsolute.com > > =======================*/ > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- |Oh yeah. Forgot about those. Getting senile, I guess... | | -- Larry Wall in <199710261551.HAA17791@wall.org> | From yapc at jbisbee.com Mon Jun 2 08:41:06 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Vegetarians Message-ID: <20030602134106.GA24885@biz> OK, I have the following individuals on the veggie menu: Kevin Meltzer Dave Rolsky David Siegal Bill Odom Ajit Deshpande Donna Loliger This is your last chance to be added before I submit the list to the catering folks at FAU. -- Jeff Bisbee / yapc@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com From alan at alanspector.org Mon Jun 2 09:33:02 2003 From: alan at alanspector.org (Alan Spector) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: There's a cuban restauraunt really close to fau. And another one on glades near the exit to turnpike. --alan On 6/2/03 7:30 AM, "Christopher L. Everett" wrote: > Hmph. > > Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? > From samuel.skielnik at pw.utc.com Mon Jun 2 10:04:56 2003 From: samuel.skielnik at pw.utc.com (Skielnik, Samuel J.) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Cuban Food Message-ID: <31DC4A4E2934D511AE0400508B95329504A68176@pusehe08.eh.pweh.com> Hello, There is a restaurant about 15 minutes away from FAU near Hwy. 1 in Boca that will have good and inexpensive Cuban/Columbian food. It is called "Mi Pueblo." I've never been to this particular restaurant; however, I have gone numerous times to the other restaurant owned by the same man. He is currently the main cook at the Boca location. I've asked them to snail mail a menu since they don't have a fax, etc. Sam Skielnik Pratt & Whitney Propulsion Systems Analysis & Integration mailto:samuel.skielnik@pw.utc.com (561)796-8972 phone (860)755-8979 fax From mark at nolab.conman.org Mon Jun 2 10:28:08 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > Hmph. > > Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? There is a Cuban place on 2nd Ave just south of Spanish River. Some people like the food, personally I don't. If you want good Mexican / Cuban there is no substitute for LaBamba II on Sample and 441... but that is a good 15 minute drive away from FAU. L8r, Mark G. From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Mon Jun 2 10:40:05 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (freeside) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] The campus vacinity ? In-Reply-To: <20030602132440.GF76389@perlguy.com> References: <20030602132440.GF76389@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030602154003.GH14163@dumbo.pobox.com> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:24:40AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: | From speaking with various people, it seems that there is a fair amount | of people (us locals, and others) who will be having cars. I'd be amazed | if anyone can't find a ride somewhere! i'll have a car too. if you want to get a ride, tune your FRS radio to channel 5_14 and hit talk: "caller to freeside, requesting ground transport, over." http://www.yapc.org/America/venue.shtml#networking From perlguy at perlguy.com Mon Jun 2 11:02:21 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030602160221.GF87287@perlguy.com> Yeah.. LaBamba II is a few miles from my house. Fantastic Mexican food. Almost always busy there. On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:28:08AM -0400, Mark Grosberg (mark@nolab.conman.org) said something similar to: > > > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > > Hmph. > > > > Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? > > There is a Cuban place on 2nd Ave just south of Spanish River. Some people > like the food, personally I don't. If you want good Mexican / Cuban there > is no substitute for LaBamba II on Sample and 441... but that is a good 15 > minute drive away from FAU. > > L8r, > Mark G. > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] You think because you understand _one_ you must understand two. Because one and one make _two_. But you must also understand _and_. --Sufi Sage From pk-sofla-pm at kailasa.net Mon Jun 2 10:49:46 2003 From: pk-sofla-pm at kailasa.net (Prakash Kailasa) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030602154946.GM12906@seisint.com> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:28:08AM -0400, Mark Grosberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > > Hmph. > > > > Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? > > There is a Cuban place on 2nd Ave just south of Spanish River. Some people > like the food, personally I don't. If you want good Mexican / Cuban there > is no substitute for LaBamba II on Sample and 441... but that is a good 15 > minute drive away from FAU. Sample and 441 may be more than 15 min. from FAU (at least for my driving :) For cuban food, there's Padrino's at the intersection of Glades Rd. and 441. About 10 min. drive from FAU. /prakash -- |It's possible that I'm just an idiot, and don't recognize a sleepy | |slavemaster when I see one. | | -- Larry Wall in <199708040319.UAA16213@wall.org> | From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Mon Jun 2 10:55:54 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] GPS please Message-ID: <20030602155554.GI14163@dumbo.pobox.com> Now that the hunt is on for things to eat and places to go around FAU, I'd like to make a request --- A fair number of southflorida folk are visiting these places ahead of time either to check them out or because they go there anyway. On your next visit, if you have a GPS, could you please bring it along and post the WGS84 coordinates together with the address? Thanks! (Coordinates for the dorms would be particularly useful.) From somian at adelphia.net Mon Jun 2 11:53:41 2003 From: somian at adelphia.net (Soren Andersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Cuban Food In-Reply-To: <31DC4A4E2934D511AE0400508B95329504A68176@pusehe08.eh.pweh.com> References: <31DC4A4E2934D511AE0400508B95329504A68176@pusehe08.eh.pweh.com> Message-ID: <20030602165341.GB5543@ny-kenton2a-710.buf.adelphia.net> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:04:56AM -0400, Skielnik, Samuel J. wrote: > Hello, > > There is a restaurant about 15 minutes away from FAU near Hwy. 1 in Boca > that will have good and inexpensive Cuban/Columbian food. It is called "Mi > Pueblo." I've never been to this particular restaurant; however, I have > gone numerous times to the other restaurant owned by the same man. He is > currently the main cook at the Boca location. I've asked them to snail mail > a menu since they don't have a fax, etc. Outstanding, thanks for posting this, Sam. I love Cuban food. And it is usually one of the best buys around. -- See my OpenPGP key at https://savannah.gnu.org/people/viewgpg.php?user_id=6050 GnuPG public key fingerprint | "Only when efforts to reform society have as BD26 A5D8 D781 C96B 9936 | their point of departure the reformation of 310F 0573 A3D9 4E24 4EA6 | the inner life -- human revolution -- will they lead us with certainty to a world of lasting peace and true human security." -- Daisaku Ikeda From haim at dimer.org Mon Jun 2 12:12:36 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Hi James, If you're serious about Cuban food, you need to go down to Miami. Hialeah is the place you want to go. Only thing is, not a lot of people speak english there. Sincerely, Haim * James A. Duncan (jduncan@fotango.com) wrote: > > On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 12:30 PM, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > >Hmph. > > > >Sushi, one finds everywhere. What about Cuban food? > > > My experience of Cuban food in Cuba was that you can have three types > of sandwich: Ham, Cheese, or Ham and Cheese. > > > I'd actually be interested to try Cuban food in Florida, and I'd very > much like to be proven wrong :-) > > Regards, > James. > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From prlawrence at lehigh.edu Mon Jun 2 08:44:42 2003 From: prlawrence at lehigh.edu (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030602084442.7ba66f57.prlawrence@lehigh.edu> > i land at PBI at 5:46 so i expect to be able to do dinner at 8 or > so. let's pencil this in for for sunday night at this place. others are > welcome too. call it the welcome to yapc self organizing dinner. Cool. I've been looking forward to some Japanese food (great memories from Montreal!), so I'll definately join in. Phil From ceverett at ceverett.com Mon Jun 2 13:51:33 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Cuban Food References: <31DC4A4E2934D511AE0400508B95329504A68176@pusehe08.eh.pweh.com> Message-ID: <3EDB9CB5.8020108@ceverett.com> Skielnik, Samuel J. wrote: > Hello, > > There is a restaurant about 15 minutes away from FAU near Hwy. 1 in Boca > that will have good and inexpensive Cuban/Columbian food. It is called "Mi > Pueblo." I've never been to this particular restaurant; however, I have > gone numerous times to the other restaurant owned by the same man. He is > currently the main cook at the Boca location. I've asked them to snail mail > a menu since they don't have a fax, etc. > Oh, excellent. IME, small low tech joints can be a huge value. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ceverett at ceverett.com Mon Jun 2 14:12:18 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: sunday night dinner (was Re: [yapc] sushi) References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: <3EDBA192.4030707@ceverett.com> Haim Dimer wrote: > Hi James, > > If you're serious about Cuban food, you need to go down to Miami. Hialeah is > the place you want to go. Only thing is, not a lot of people speak english > there. > What's a small issue like language when there's an adventure to experience? Perhaps combine a excfursion to Hialeah for Jai Alai with a stop at a decent Cuban place. And I'm not talking about some tony chi-chi joint with a saline enhanced hostess ... I want the full ethnic experience. Oh and how about some Afro-Cuban Jazz while we're at it? -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From mirod at xmltwig.com Mon Jun 2 14:25:11 2003 From: mirod at xmltwig.com (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] YAPC field trip to a sporting event In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030530004443.02b440c8@mail.PlatypiVentures.com> References: <20030529110840.GA21195@biz> <20030529050552.GI993@ny-kenton2a-710.buf.adelphia.net> <20030529110840.GA21195@biz> <5.1.0.14.2.20030530004443.02b440c8@mail.PlatypiVentures.com> Message-ID: <1054581911.2341.46.camel@monster.xmltwig.com> On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 07:19, R. Geoffrey Avery wrote: > On the last day of YAPC in Montreal and St. Louis I organized a baseball > BOF. This year the closest major league baseball games > (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/fla/schedule/fla_schedule_calendar.jsp?m=6&y=2003) > are the Florida Marlins hosting the New York Mets at 7:05pm each night > Monday - Thursday. Then Tampa Bay arrives on Friday. > > But closer to the conference, and not to be found in most places, is Jai > Alai with the fastest ball in all of sports, clocking in at up to 180 > mph. Near the Ft. Lauderdale airport is the Dania Jai Alai Fronton > (http://www.dania-jai-alai.com/). And Wednesday is 99 cent night. So this > year it may be changed to: > > Jai Alai BOF > Wednesday > Games start at 7:15 but we can arrive earlier Jai-Alai ++ Being half-Basque myself, and having never seen live Jai-Alai, I would love to go to a game. -- Michel Rodriguez Perl & XML http://www.xmltwig.com From ceverett at ceverett.com Mon Jun 2 17:58:22 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] YAPC field trip to a sporting event References: <20030529110840.GA21195@biz> <20030529050552.GI993@ny-kenton2a-710.buf.adelphia.net> <20030529110840.GA21195@biz> <5.1.0.14.2.20030530004443.02b440c8@mail.PlatypiVentures.com> <1054581911.2341.46.camel@monster.xmltwig.com> Message-ID: <3EDBD68E.6050604@ceverett.com> Michel Rodriguez wrote: > On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 07:19, R. Geoffrey Avery wrote: > >>On the last day of YAPC in Montreal and St. Louis I organized a baseball >>BOF. This year the closest major league baseball games >>(http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/fla/schedule/fla_schedule_calendar.jsp?m=6&y=2003) >>are the Florida Marlins hosting the New York Mets at 7:05pm each night >>Monday - Thursday. Then Tampa Bay arrives on Friday. >> >>But closer to the conference, and not to be found in most places, is Jai >>Alai with the fastest ball in all of sports, clocking in at up to 180 >>mph. Near the Ft. Lauderdale airport is the Dania Jai Alai Fronton >>(http://www.dania-jai-alai.com/). And Wednesday is 99 cent night. So this >>year it may be changed to: >> >>Jai Alai BOF >>Wednesday >>Games start at 7:15 but we can arrive earlier > > > Jai-Alai ++ > > Being half-Basque myself, and having never seen live Jai-Alai, I would > love to go to a game. > Dinner at a good Cuban cantina first, then Jai Alai, then then that good Afro Cuban Jazz, then cigars, and then the red-eye to NY/LaGuardia! Yeah, baby! I'd call that a full evening. Who wants (or needs) sleep when they can have a night like that, hey? -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From gordon at visi.com Mon Jun 2 21:14:09 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:12:36PM -0400, Haim Dimer wrote: > If you're serious about Cuban food, you need to go down to Miami. > Hialeah is the place you want to go. Only thing is, not a lot of > people speak english there. So tell me more, Haim. I arrive about noon Sunday at Miami airport, was hoping to poke around somewhere in Miami before heading to Boca. I'd love to eat at a Cuban place. Is Hialeah a district, a street,...? How's a good way to get there from the airport? I love to walk and love to munch in unfamiliar cities, and places where there's a bunch of popular restaurants are usually interesting places for me to stroll, too. Unless they're at a mall. (: - Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From perlguy at perlguy.com Tue Jun 3 08:58:52 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> Message-ID: <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> Go to South Beach, walk up Collins Ave. and that area. Plenty of places to eat, drink, etc... Right next to the beach, and if it is a warm day, there will be much viewing pleasure. South Beach is a real hot spot for Miami. Personally, I wouldn't go "walking around" Hialeah, but South Beach is cool. Cheers, Kevin On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:14:09PM -0500, Gordon Pedersen (gordon@visi.com) said something similar to: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:12:36PM -0400, Haim Dimer wrote: > > If you're serious about Cuban food, you need to go down to Miami. > > Hialeah is the place you want to go. Only thing is, not a lot of > > people speak english there. > > So tell me more, Haim. I arrive about noon Sunday at Miami airport, was > hoping to poke around somewhere in Miami before heading to Boca. I'd > love to eat at a Cuban place. Is Hialeah a district, a street,...? > How's a good way to get there from the airport? > > I love to walk and love to munch in unfamiliar cities, and places where > there's a bunch of popular restaurants are usually interesting places > for me to stroll, too. Unless they're at a mall. (: > > > - > Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when it's necessary to compromise." --Larry Wall in <1991Nov13.194420.28091@netlabs.com> From alan at alanspector.org Tue Jun 3 08:50:46 2003 From: alan at alanspector.org (Alan Spector) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Just be ready to pay a premium for food and drinks though, most restaurants on south beach are over priced. --alan On 6/3/03 9:58 AM, "Kevin Meltzer" wrote: > Go to South Beach, walk up Collins Ave. and that area. Plenty of places > to eat, drink, etc... Right next to the beach, and if it is a warm day, > there will be much viewing pleasure. South Beach is a real hot spot for > Miami. Personally, I wouldn't go "walking around" Hialeah, but South > Beach is cool. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:14:09PM -0500, Gordon Pedersen (gordon@visi.com) > said something similar to: >> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 01:12:36PM -0400, Haim Dimer wrote: >>> If you're serious about Cuban food, you need to go down to Miami. >>> Hialeah is the place you want to go. Only thing is, not a lot of >>> people speak english there. >> >> So tell me more, Haim. I arrive about noon Sunday at Miami airport, was >> hoping to poke around somewhere in Miami before heading to Boca. I'd >> love to eat at a Cuban place. Is Hialeah a district, a street,...? >> How's a good way to get there from the airport? >> >> I love to walk and love to munch in unfamiliar cities, and places where >> there's a bunch of popular restaurants are usually interesting places >> for me to stroll, too. Unless they're at a mall. (: >> >> >> - >> Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc@mail.pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From gordon at visi.com Tue Jun 3 11:59:39 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:58:52AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Go to South Beach, walk up Collins Ave. and that area. Plenty of > places to eat, drink, etc... Right next to the beach, and if it is a > warm day, there will be much viewing pleasure. South Beach is a real > hot spot for Miami. Personally, I wouldn't go "walking around" > Hialeah, but South Beach is cool. Thanks for the suggestion. Hialeah still sounds more interesting, so I I'm soliciting second opinions on just how dangerous it is on a Sunday afternoon. My personl danger line gets triggered in daylight, for example, in the south side of Chicago, and no doubt parts of any big eastern city. If Hialeah is like that, I sure don't want to go there alone. But OTOH if it's more poor than dangerous, I'm not so scared. Gordon - Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From dkr at rathjens.org Tue Jun 3 14:05:47 2003 From: dkr at rathjens.org (Danny Rathjens) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> Message-ID: <3EDCF18B.4090609@rathjens.org> As long as you don't say anything about Elian in Hialeah, you'll be fine, ;) I can't really think of much of interest in Hialeah, though. It's just a big suburb. I second the motion of checking out sobe, though. Many nice places and plenty with Cuban fare.(e.g. Lincoln Rd) (All the models walking around are just a bonus, ;) Gordon Pedersen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:58:52AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > >>Go to South Beach, walk up Collins Ave. and that area. Plenty of >>places to eat, drink, etc... Right next to the beach, and if it is a >>warm day, there will be much viewing pleasure. South Beach is a real >>hot spot for Miami. Personally, I wouldn't go "walking around" >>Hialeah, but South Beach is cool. > > > Thanks for the suggestion. Hialeah still sounds more interesting, so I > I'm soliciting second opinions on just how dangerous it is on a Sunday > afternoon. My personl danger line gets triggered in daylight, for > example, in the south side of Chicago, and no doubt parts of any big > eastern city. If Hialeah is like that, I sure don't want to go there > alone. But OTOH if it's more poor than dangerous, I'm not so scared. > > Gordon > - > Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- _.,-*~`^'~*-,._ Danny Rathjens _.,-*~`^'~*-,._ FireCast: Rock solid kiosk software: http://wirespring.com From perlguy at perlguy.com Tue Jun 3 16:10:05 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> Message-ID: <20030603211005.GS87287@perlguy.com> Hialeah really isn't very interesting.. South Beach is the place to go when in the Miami area. Good Cuban food is all around Miami, as it is a suburb of Cuba itself. So, you can't go wrong. Going to Hialeah instead of South Beach is like going to Trenton, NJ instead of Manhattan. Just my opinion :) Cheers, Kevin On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:59:39AM -0500, Gordon Pedersen (gordon@visi.com) said something similar to: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:58:52AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > Go to South Beach, walk up Collins Ave. and that area. Plenty of > > places to eat, drink, etc... Right next to the beach, and if it is a > > warm day, there will be much viewing pleasure. South Beach is a real > > hot spot for Miami. Personally, I wouldn't go "walking around" > > Hialeah, but South Beach is cool. > > Thanks for the suggestion. Hialeah still sounds more interesting, so I > I'm soliciting second opinions on just how dangerous it is on a Sunday > afternoon. My personl danger line gets triggered in daylight, for > example, in the south side of Chicago, and no doubt parts of any big > eastern city. If Hialeah is like that, I sure don't want to go there > alone. But OTOH if it's more poor than dangerous, I'm not so scared. > > Gordon > - > Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Stupidity is the basic building block of the universe. -- Frank Zappa From gordon at visi.com Tue Jun 3 16:05:27 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food In-Reply-To: <3EDCF18B.4090609@rathjens.org> References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> <3EDCF18B.4090609@rathjens.org> Message-ID: <20030603210527.GB1989@pan> Okay, thanks. Sounds like there's more to sobe and less to Hialeah than I first assumed. I'll dig out a map later this week then maybe have a question or two. gp On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:05:47PM -0400, Danny Rathjens wrote: > As long as you don't say anything about Elian in Hialeah, you'll be fine, ;) > I can't really think of much of interest in Hialeah, though. > It's just a big suburb. > I second the motion of checking out sobe, though. > Many nice places and plenty with Cuban fare.(e.g. Lincoln Rd) - Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From ceverett at ceverett.com Tue Jun 3 17:48:05 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food References: <3EDB3556.9050400@ceverett.com> <20030602171236.GB5242@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030603021409.GA2797@pan> <20030603135852.GR87287@perlguy.com> <20030603165939.GA1205@pan> <20030603211005.GS87287@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EDD25A5.4040307@ceverett.com> Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hialeah really isn't very interesting.. South Beach is the place to go > when in the Miami area. Good Cuban food is all around Miami, as it is a > suburb of Cuba itself. So, you can't go wrong. Going to Hialeah instead > of South Beach is like going to Trenton, NJ instead of Manhattan. So food is an understood problem seems like ... just keep me out of those chichi joints where the they have more plate than food and you pay mega $$$ and still walk out hungry. So, what do we do for some good down home Afro-Cuban jazz/folk music? It's gotta have a horn section, congas, and be smoking ... -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ioannis at earthlink.net Tue Jun 3 21:22:19 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Re: Commuting to Boca? Message-ID: <20030604022219.GA10022@earthlink.net> ( Just arrived to the list, and I recognize several posters already. Hi! ) >> For various reasons to do with having family working there, my wife at >> least will be staying at the Miami Biltmore (in Coral Gables) and, >> whilst I'm sure the dorm rooms are lovely, I find myself wondering how >> long the journey is from there to YAPC... Anyone know? > It should be at least an hour drive from Coral Gables to Boca, but expect much more since traffic is morning never favorable. Lots of inexpensive places to rent are at Pompano Beach, near the sea. It is less than ten minutes drive to FAU. Thanks -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. PGP encrypted mail preferred. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Wed Jun 4 07:24:54 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Re: Commuting to Boca? Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646331D@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> I agree without traffic it should take you an hour to get to Boca. The problem is that there is always traffic once you cross the miami-dade I95 glades interchange and palm beach/broward line in the morning. You should at least give yourself 1 1/2 - 2 hours if you planning to drive up to Boca in the morning. > -----Original Message----- > From: ioannis@earthlink.net [SMTP:ioannis@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:24 PM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] Re: Commuting to Boca? > > > ( Just arrived to the list, and I recognize several posters already. Hi! ) > > > >> For various reasons to do with having family working there, my wife at > >> least will be staying at the Miami Biltmore (in Coral Gables) and, > >> whilst I'm sure the dorm rooms are lovely, I find myself wondering how > >> long the journey is from there to YAPC... Anyone know? > > > > > It should be at least an hour drive from Coral Gables to Boca, but expect > much more since traffic is morning never favorable. > > Lots of inexpensive places to rent are at Pompano Beach, near the sea. It > is less > than ten minutes drive to FAU. > > > Thanks > > > -- > > Ioannis Tambouras > Signed pgp-key on key server. > PGP encrypted mail preferred. > ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2595 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20030604/905f22a7/attachment.bin From ken at mathforum.org Wed Jun 4 14:02:52 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? Message-ID: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Hi, Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a BOF for Module::Build. -Ken From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 4 14:36:39 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails about BOFs are cool. Cheers, Kevin On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:02:52PM -0500, Ken Williams (ken@mathforum.org) said something similar to: > Hi, > > Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a > BOF for Module::Build. > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." --Albert Einstein From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Jun 4 14:19:17 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [ken@mathforum.org: [yapc] BOF requests?] Message-ID: <20030604121917.A13045@timji.consultix-inc.com> # #Hi, # #Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a #BOF for Module::Build. # # -Ken # #_______________________________________________ #yapc mailing list #yapc@mail.pm.org #http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc I have the same question (but for a different topic). -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From autarch at urth.org Wed Jun 4 14:48:26 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? Message-ID: I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a Go BOF. Beginners are welcome. The rules are incredibly simple, though playing well is quite difficult ;) -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From dbryan at geowebhouse.com Wed Jun 4 15:12:18 2003 From: dbryan at geowebhouse.com (Derek Bryan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? References: Message-ID: <012c01c32ad5$9947dc50$ecac5341@SIORLANDO.COM> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rolsky" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: [yapc] Go players? > I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a Go > BOF. > > Beginners are welcome. The rules are incredibly simple, though playing > well is quite difficult ;) > > > -dave > > /*======================= > House Absolute Consulting > www.houseabsolute.com > =======================*/ I play Chess... > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From hvc at riff.soundwave.net Wed Jun 4 15:19:34 2003 From: hvc at riff.soundwave.net (Helen Cook) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030604201934.GB2211@soundwave.net> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a Go > BOF. Yes! I'm still mostly a beginner, though I have been playing on and off for a few years. I will bring my stones, but my board is not portable enough to carry.. it should be possible to improvise a usable playing surface, though. --Helen. From ingy at ttul.org Wed Jun 4 16:37:46 2003 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com>; from perlguy@perlguy.com on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400 References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> On 04/06/03 15:36 -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can > try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All > people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails > about BOFs are cool. I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:02:52PM -0500, Ken Williams (ken@mathforum.org) said something similar to: > > Hi, > > > > Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a > > BOF for Module::Build. > > > > -Ken > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. > But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute, and it's longer than any hour. > That's relativity." --Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From cchunt at verio.net Wed Jun 4 16:53:01 2003 From: cchunt at verio.net (cchunt) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: <20030604201934.GB2211@soundwave.net> References: <20030604201934.GB2211@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <200306041753.01310.cchunt@verio.net> Love Playing Go. Looking forward to playing :-) Charles H On Wednesday 04 June 2003 04:19 pm, Helen Cook wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a Go > > BOF. > > Yes! I'm still mostly a beginner, though I have been playing on and off > for a few years. I will bring my stones, but my board is not portable > enough to carry.. it should be possible to improvise a usable playing > surface, though. > > --Helen. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 4 17:21:37 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials Message-ID: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Hey folks, One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be in electronic format). Why you ask... a) Saves money for TPF b) Saves some trees c) We all have computers and can print what we need d) Not all speakers sent me materials e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) g) I don't want to over or under print I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one speaker, which I will have to print his materials. Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", or "Kill some trees!!" Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? Zen Master - It is. From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Jun 4 17:15:09 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <20030604151509.A13443@timji.consultix-inc.com> I'd like to hold a BOF on the always controversial topic of Perl Certification, on which I'll be chairing a discussion later at TPC. What time slots are available, and how are they allocated? First come first served, most generous virtual beer offer, or something else? ======================================================= | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)timmaher.org | | SPUG Founder & Leader spug(AT)seattleperl.org | | Seattle Perl Users Group www.seattleperl.org | ======================================================= From ceverett at ceverett.com Wed Jun 4 17:45:26 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EDE7686.2050705@ceverett.com> Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print > > I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website > next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, > or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one > speaker, which I will have to print his materials. > > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" > > Cheers, > Kevin > All Electronica except PDF's are fine with me ... -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From jkeen at concentric.net Wed Jun 4 17:42:09 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <003d01c32aea$8964bbe0$5fa0ec42@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Meltzer" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees While I agree with the last point, I have to say I really treasure the printed proceedings I have from the last 3 YAPC::NAs. Call me old fashioned, but I still absorb new information better in printed form. It should be noted that YAPC::Canada (Ottawa, May) requested that contributors submit their presentations in PDF format and then distributed same on CD-ROMs to all attendees. If you absolutely cannot print the proceedings, please consider that format. Thanks. Jim Keenan Brooklyn, NY From indy at indigostar.com Wed Jun 4 17:52:25 2003 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <19fa01c32aeb$f88bd2a0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> Nuke the wales, but save the trees! Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Meltzer" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print > > I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website > next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, > or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one > speaker, which I will have to print his materials. > > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? > Zen Master - It is. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From chris at cwinters.com Wed Jun 4 19:17:21 2003 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EDE8C11.8020908@cwinters.com> Kevin Meltzer wrote: > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... The feel of having the proceedings in your hands is nice, but for me it's nostalgia more than anything. I'm fully on the side of electronic docs. And if it saves money for TPF, so much the better! Chris -- Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988. From ken at mathforum.org Wed Jun 4 22:26:49 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8AF0ADD8-9705-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 02:48 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a > Go > BOF. > Hey, I didn't know you played Go. I've played some with a Japanese friend of mine in town, but I'm not very good. It would be fun to have a BOF in Florida for it. -Ken From ken at mathforum.org Wed Jun 4 22:30:01 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <3EDE7686.2050705@ceverett.com> Message-ID: On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > All Electronica except PDF's are fine with me ... > Seriously? You can read Power Point but not PDFs? Or you just don't like them? -Ken From autarch at urth.org Wed Jun 4 22:38:20 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print Electronic is great. I don't need more books cluttering up my house. It's bad enough already. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From gordon at visi.com Wed Jun 4 23:56:03 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030605045603.GA3759@pan> Will everything be available by Thursday the 12th? That afternoon is my last chance to print prior to arrival. I would like to have the option of printing something while at the conference. Will there be any printers available? For that matter, any computers (I'm not lugging mine along)? I also prefer paper in hand when taking in interesting new material. But being that this conference comes at such a bargain price, I'm certainly willing to deal with electronic copies. Gordon On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:21:37PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Thu Jun 5 03:54:08 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> (Brian Ingerson's message of "Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:37:46 -0700") References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> Message-ID: Brian Ingerson writes: > On 04/06/03 15:36 -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: >> I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can >> try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All >> people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails >> about BOFs are cool. > > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. Anyone up for a Go BOF? Or a Song/Jam BOF? -- Piers From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Thu Jun 5 04:00:19 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: <20030604201934.GB2211@soundwave.net> (Helen Cook's message of "Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:19:34 -0700") References: <20030604201934.GB2211@soundwave.net> Message-ID: Helen Cook writes: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: >> I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can have a Go >> BOF. > > Yes! I'm still mostly a beginner, though I have been playing on and off > for a few years. I will bring my stones, but my board is not portable > enough to carry.. it should be possible to improvise a usable playing > surface, though. Is there a Go club in Miami/Boca? Might be worth seeing if you can borrow equipment from them. There's always software gobans, but it's not the same... -- Piers From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 5 07:23:14 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B256463327@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Maybe a CD might be an alternative, for those who don't have broadband. Amiel > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:04 PM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials > > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print > > I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website > next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, > or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one > speaker, which I will have to print his materials. > > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? > Zen Master - It is. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2768 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20030605/d75366b7/attachment.bin From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 5 07:43:34 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030605045603.GA3759@pan> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> <20030605045603.GA3759@pan> Message-ID: <20030605124333.GR95574@perlguy.com> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:56:03PM -0500, Gordon Pedersen (gordon@visi.com) said something similar to: > Will everything be available by Thursday the 12th? That afternoon is my > last chance to print prior to arrival. Yeah. I'd probably put up what I have Monday or Tuesday. > I would like to have the option of printing something while at the > conference. Will there be any printers available? For that matter, any > computers (I'm not lugging mine along)? We should have use of the computer lab on campus, which does have a printer. We are going over to the campus to make sure all is ship shape today, so I'll double check that. > I also prefer paper in hand when taking in interesting new material. > But being that this conference comes at such a bargain price, I'm > certainly willing to deal with electronic copies. If things aren't printed, I'll probably try to get notebooks or pads for people to write on during talks. I'm the same way. I like electronic files, but like to scribble on something. Cheers, Kevin > Gordon > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:21:37PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I invented the cordless extension cord. -- Steven Wright From prlawrence at lehigh.edu Thu Jun 5 03:25:03 2003 From: prlawrence at lehigh.edu (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> Message-ID: <20030605032503.31ebfd9b.prlawrence@lehigh.edu> Brian Ingerson wrote: > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. I'm interested in Kwiki, but haven't used it. Not sure I'd be a "bird of a feather". Phil From chris at cwinters.com Thu Jun 5 07:32:00 2003 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <3EDF3840.6060404@cwinters.com> Ken Williams wrote: > Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a BOF > for Module::Build. As long as we're piping up with ideas, I'd like to have an OpenInteract BOF. Chris From Mark at Overmeer.net Thu Jun 5 07:33:46 2003 From: Mark at Overmeer.net (Mark Overmeer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <3EDF3840.6060404@cwinters.com>; from chris@cwinters.com on Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:32:00AM -0400 References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <3EDF3840.6060404@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <20030605143346.K10163@speeltuin.ATComputing.nl> * Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) [030605 14:30]: > Ken Williams wrote: > > Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a BOF > > for Module::Build. ... and I want to contribute a everything-related-to-email BoF -- MarkOv %-] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ drs Mark A.C.J. Overmeer MARKOV Solutions Mark@Overmeer.net solutions@overmeer.net http://Mark.Overmeer.net http://solutions.overmeer.net From gordon at visi.com Thu Jun 5 08:38:37 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030605124333.GR95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> <20030605045603.GA3759@pan> <20030605124333.GR95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030605133837.GA658@pan> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:43:34AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:56:03PM -0500, Gordon Pedersen (gordon@visi.com) said something similar to: > > I also prefer paper in hand when taking in interesting new material. > > But being that this conference comes at such a bargain price, I'm > > certainly willing to deal with electronic copies. > > If things aren't printed, I'll probably try to get notebooks or pads > for people to write on during talks. I'm the same way. I like > electronic files, but like to scribble on something. I'm always forgetting that detail, but then I've come to prefer simple _24_ pound loose 8.5x11 paper for almost everything, since it fits in my pocket. Presumably the computer lab'll have ssh clients already installed??? Or at least let us install such. Are they *nix, win$ or what? If they're into saving paper while still allowing printing, they could install a2ps or some similar *nix package that allows easy n-up and duplex printing. I'm not demanding or even requesting here, I'm happy to coexist with whatever our hosts wish to offer, and thank them for it. Just thinking aloud about what works for me on a foreign computer. Thanks for trying to balance our needs with yours/theirs. ciao, Gordon > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > Gordon > > > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:21:37PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > > > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > I invented the cordless extension cord. > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From ken at mathforum.org Thu Jun 5 09:14:35 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:38 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <08BE322F-9760-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 02:02 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > Hi, > > Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a > BOF for Module::Build. I had someone ask for clarification on what "BOF" means. It's a "Birds of a Feather" session, where people who are interested in a certain topic can get together and discuss it, show each other stuff, etc. See for example http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2002/bofs.php and http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/15/bof.html -Ken From hachi at kuiki.net Thu Jun 5 09:28:35 2003 From: hachi at kuiki.net (Jonathan Steinert) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <08BE322F-9760-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <08BE322F-9760-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <3EDF5393.6050003@kuiki.net> Ken Williams wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 02:02 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > > I had someone ask for clarification on what "BOF" means. It's a > "Birds of a Feather" session, where people who are interested in a > certain topic can get together and discuss it, show each other stuff, > etc. > Ick... and I've been thinking it means "Bastard Operator Forum" or something similar this entire time. This is what I get for not asking =snip hachi From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 5 09:39:56 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030605073956.A15748@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:21:37PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... I'm a speaker (one tutorial and one talk), and I'll bring my own handouts for my audiences, to save you the trouble of printing 20 pages per student and save me the trouble of having it ready earlier than necessary 8-} ======================================================= | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)timmaher.org | | JAWCAR ("Just Another White-Camel Award Recipient") | | SPUG Founder & Leader spug(AT)seattleperl.org | | Seattle Perl Users Group www.seattleperl.org | ======================================================= > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print > > I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website > next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, > or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one > speaker, which I will have to print his materials. > > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? > Zen Master - It is. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 10:03:47 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Piers Cawley wrote: > > On 04/06/03 15:36 -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > >> I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can > >> try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All > >> people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails > >> about BOFs are cool. > > > > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. > > Anyone up for a Go BOF? Or a Song/Jam BOF? Go BOF yes. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From troc at netrus.net Wed Jun 4 14:45:24 2003 From: troc at netrus.net (Rocco Caputo) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] POE BOF Message-ID: <20030604194524.GL635@eyrie.homenet> POE BOF. ISAGN. Plus I plan to bring amateur homebrew for the people to whom I owe some beer. A BOF would be a good opportunity to get together, try some bad beer, and talk about stuff. <_DrForr> Good thinking. The one we did at...what, '00 was useful... Beer's very limited. RSVP off-list to reserve one. -- Rocco Caputo - troc@pobox.com - http://poe.perl.org/ From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 4 17:15:54 2003 From: david at kineticode.com (David Wheeler) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <1C0D97B2-96DA-11D7-8177-0003931A964A@kineticode.com> On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" I say do it. I don't like electronic better, but I can print what I want, and what I want is typically _far_ less than I get in printed format at a conference. Regards, David -- David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory david@kineticode.com ICQ: 15726394 http://kineticode.com/ Yahoo!: dew7e Jabber: Theory@jabber.org Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm] From robindarby at mac.com Thu Jun 5 10:22:54 2003 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <3EDF3840.6060404@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <9464350E-9769-11D7-AC53-000A9588299C@mac.com> On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 01:32 PM, Chris Winters wrote: > Ken Williams wrote: >> Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a >> BOF for Module::Build. > > As long as we're piping up with ideas, I'd like to have an > OpenInteract BOF. Did i read on the mason mailing list someplace, that there was going to be a mason BOF?? Thanks Robin... From Lorretta.Filiault-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Thu Jun 5 10:49:32 2003 From: Lorretta.Filiault-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Filiault-1, Lorretta) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials Message-ID: <77D970195068F54B8FA4742939B983B0356DB3@kscems003.ksc.nasa.gov> electronic is ok with me Lorretta A. Filiault Information Management Specialist The Bionetics Corporation BIO-5, Kennedy Space Center, FL 32899 http://ohp.nasa.gov 321-867-3853 phone 321-867-3583 fax Lorretta.Filiault-1@ksc.nasa.gov -----Original Message----- From: David Wheeler [mailto:david@kineticode.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:16 PM To: yapc@mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" I say do it. I don't like electronic better, but I can print what I want, and what I want is typically _far_ less than I get in printed format at a conference. Regards, David -- David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory david@kineticode.com ICQ: 15726394 http://kineticode.com/ Yahoo!: dew7e Jabber: Theory@jabber.org Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm] _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From cchunt at verio.net Thu Jun 5 11:03:05 2003 From: cchunt at verio.net (cchunt) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> Message-ID: <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> Yes, definitely interested in Go BOF. Charles H On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:54 am, Piers Cawley wrote: > Brian Ingerson writes: > > On 04/06/03 15:36 -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > >> I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can > >> try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All > >> people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails > >> about BOFs are cool. > > > > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. > > Anyone up for a Go BOF? Or a Song/Jam BOF? From ingy at ttul.org Thu Jun 5 11:03:32 2003 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <20030605032503.31ebfd9b.prlawrence@lehigh.edu>; from prlawrence@lehigh.edu on Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:25:03AM -0500 References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604193639.GC95574@perlguy.com> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <20030605032503.31ebfd9b.prlawrence@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <20030605090332.B3026@ttul.org> On 05/06/03 03:25 -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Brian Ingerson wrote: > > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. > > I'm interested in Kwiki, but haven't used it. Not sure I'd be a "bird > of a feather". No worries. I've only used it for a few weeks myself ;) Cheers, Brian From ken at mathforum.org Thu Jun 5 11:05:02 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <9464350E-9769-11D7-AC53-000A9588299C@mac.com> Message-ID: <7714A2B8-976F-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 10:22 AM, Robin Darby wrote: > > Did i read on the mason mailing list someplace, that there was going > to be a mason BOF?? > Yeah, we can do that. Dave and I will both be there. Several other Mason contributors usually show up at YAPC too. -Ken From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 11:05:23 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <9464350E-9769-11D7-AC53-000A9588299C@mac.com> References: <9464350E-9769-11D7-AC53-000A9588299C@mac.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Robin Darby wrote: > > Ken Williams wrote: > >> Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a > >> BOF for Module::Build. > > > > As long as we're piping up with ideas, I'd like to have an > > OpenInteract BOF. > > Did i read on the mason mailing list someplace, that there was going to > be a mason BOF?? I mentioned it. If there's interest I'm happy to attend. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 5 11:48:37 2003 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: At 18:21 -0400 2003/06/04, Kevin Meltzer wrote: >Hey folks, > >One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from >some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, >but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I >have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be >in electronic format). Why you ask... > >a) Saves money for TPF >b) Saves some trees >c) We all have computers and can print what we need depends upon what format the material is in!!! >d) Not all speakers sent me materials >e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. >f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) >g) I don't want to over or under print The problem with websites is bit rot. Has anyone tried to go back and access the online docs from previous YAPCs ?? It is pretty much a disaster. At minimum a CD of the material should be provided Regards, Todd Olson From mrodrigu at ieee.org Thu Jun 5 11:53:09 2003 From: mrodrigu at ieee.org (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Todd Olson wrote: > The problem with websites is bit rot. > Has anyone tried to go back and access the online docs from > previous YAPCs ?? > It is pretty much a disaster. > > At minimum a CD of the material should be provided wget is your friend, just grab the entire website and burn it before it disappears Michel Rodriguez IEEE Standards - Electronic Services From mupledge at hsc.usf.edu Thu Jun 5 12:02:14 2003 From: mupledge at hsc.usf.edu (mike upledger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> Message-ID: >> Brian Ingerson writes: >> > On 04/06/03 15:36 -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: >> >> I guess this list is as good as any. If you want to do a BOF, we can >> >> try to get a wall or something for people to post the when/where. All >> >> people registered for YAPC are (or will be) on this list, so emails >> >> about BOFs are cool. >> > >> > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. >> >> Anyone up for a Go BOF? Or a Song/Jam BOF? I would be interested in a song/jam bof. I am new to yapc's and bof's, but i play guitar fairly well and could bring along a couple acoustic guitars. Hey, maybe make some new friends... -mike u -- Michael Upledger mupledge@hsc.usf.edu From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 13:30:40 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: Message-ID: <3EDF8C50.1090907@ceverett.com> Ken Williams wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > >> >> All Electronica except PDF's are fine with me ... >> > Sorry, for a moment I forgot that such a thing as PowerPoint even existed. Nix that too. PDF has that high overhead quotient. Maybe having the time to reinstall Acrobat Reader (apologies to RMS, the open source alternatives just won't do it for me until they plug into my browser) on my box would make a difference. OTOH my current acroread problems could just be a libc incompatibility. Given the chance, I opt for elegant (some would say brute) simplicity :) -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From samuel.skielnik at pw.utc.com Thu Jun 5 13:06:03 2003 From: samuel.skielnik at pw.utc.com (Skielnik, Samuel J.) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? Message-ID: <31DC4A4E2934D511AE0400508B95329504A68199@pusehe08.eh.pweh.com> I'm definitely interested in a Kwiki BOF. I'm new to this community and had to look up the definition for BOF the first time I saw the term on this list. I hope to learn much more from the world of Perl people. I'm really enjoying the e-mail threads regarding the conference. Thanks, Sam Skielnik Pratt & Whitney Propulsion Systems Analysis & Integration mailto:samuel.skielnik@pw.utc.com (561)796-8972 phone (860)755-8979 fax -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ingerson [mailto:ingy@ttul.org] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:04 PM To: yapc@mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] BOF requests? On 05/06/03 03:25 -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Brian Ingerson wrote: > > I'd like to host a YAML BOF and/or a Kwiki BOF if there is interest. > > I'm interested in Kwiki, but haven't used it. Not sure I'd be a "bird > of a feather". No worries. I've only used it for a few weeks myself ;) Cheers, Brian _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 13:52:47 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> Message-ID: <3EDF917F.5000905@ceverett.com> Anyone up for a mod_perl BOF? It's what I do every day, all day. I'd call myself an intermediate journeyman mod_perl programmer, so I'm sure someone with more mod_perl street cred would show up. It's like when I learned to use HTML::Template, there was no going back to using "here to" variables. Then recently learning Class::DBI was another change on the same order. So if I come away with a new piece to add to that mix which lets me code less and get more functionality I'll be ecstatic. Also, I want to learn more about Class::DBI before I hopelessly hose up my application architecture with a poor implementation of it. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 13:54:43 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <3EDF3840.6060404@cwinters.com> <20030605143346.K10163@speeltuin.ATComputing.nl> Message-ID: <3EDF91F3.8030803@ceverett.com> Mark Overmeer wrote: > * Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) [030605 14:30]: > >>Ken Williams wrote: >> >>>Where should I send requests for BOF scheduling? I'd like to have a BOF >>>for Module::Build. >> > > ... and I want to contribute a everything-related-to-email BoF I'd show up for that. I use MIME::Lite, MIME::Tools and Exim. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 5 14:43:59 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <3EDF8C50.1090907@ceverett.com> References: <3EDF8C50.1090907@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <86of1cxqbk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher L Everett writes: Christopher> PDF has that high overhead quotient. Maybe having the time to Christopher> reinstall Acrobat Reader (apologies to RMS, the open source Christopher> alternatives just won't do it for me until they plug into my Christopher> browser) on my box would make a difference. OTOH my current Christopher> acroread problems could just be a libc incompatibility. Christopher> Given the chance, I opt for elegant (some would say brute) Christopher> simplicity :) PDF has some necessary overhead, yes, but it is clearly the industry standard for Portable Documents. Maybe you need to upgrade to a decent OS, like MacOSX? I've got a plugin that lets me view PDF in my two favorite browsers. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 5 14:47:06 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? In-Reply-To: <3EDF917F.5000905@ceverett.com> References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> <3EDF917F.5000905@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <86k7c0xq6d.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher L Everett writes: Christopher> It's like when I learned to use HTML::Template, there was Christopher> no going back to using "here to" variables. Then Christopher> recently learning Class::DBI was another change on the Christopher> same order. So if I come away with a new piece to add to Christopher> that mix which lets me code less and get more Christopher> functionality I'll be ecstatic. We need to show you Template Toolkit then, and you'll never go back to HTML::Template. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 15:25:16 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? References: Message-ID: <3EDFA72C.8020601@ceverett.com> Andrew Brosnan wrote: > > So are you saying that you now use Class::DBI rather than the DBI > module? I've been wondering recently about Class::DBI and would be > interested; especially advantages/disadvantages vs DBI. Between Class::DBI and HTML::Template my web applications are becoming just some glue between classes that handle getting data to/from the browser via the web server and Class::DBI. The overhead is something to track carefully. But, you only need to set up a table using Class::DBI once. I've begun using it it as the place where I define the various aspects of how we do business, eg in one place I have: my $account = Physemp::Model::Account->retrieve($account_id); $account->full_database_access_enabled({ begins => $self->{formdata}{start_date}, ends => $self->{formdata}{end_date} }); and another I have code like my $account = Physemp::Model::Account->retrieve($account_id); return DECLINED unless $account->full_database_access_enabled; and so on. The last project I did, was recoding somethin I already had up with Class::DBI. It dropped about 40% in actual Perl code size measured in bytes, but had more functionality built in. YMMV, of course. There. Someone had to sling some code around, so I went ahead and did it :) -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 15:32:13 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: <3EDF8C50.1090907@ceverett.com> <86of1cxqbk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <3EDFA8CD.5040700@ceverett.com> Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>"Christopher" == Christopher L Everett writes: >>>>> > > Christopher> PDF has that high overhead quotient. Maybe having the time to > Christopher> reinstall Acrobat Reader (apologies to RMS, the open source > Christopher> alternatives just won't do it for me until they plug into my > Christopher> browser) on my box would make a difference. OTOH my current > Christopher> acroread problems could just be a libc incompatibility. > > Christopher> Given the chance, I opt for elegant (some would say brute) > Christopher> simplicity :) > > PDF has some necessary overhead, yes, but it is clearly the industry standard > for Portable Documents. > > Maybe you need to upgrade to a decent OS, like MacOSX? I've got a > plugin that lets me view PDF in my two favorite browsers. :) > Groan ... not another Mac evangelist. Heh, I didn't think there were any left outside of the local Fairfield, Iowa cult. I track Debian Testing on my workstation. OSX might be an option when our sales hit their (projected) targets. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 15:33:04 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> <3EDF917F.5000905@ceverett.com> <86k7c0xq6d.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <3EDFA900.5010203@ceverett.com> Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>"Christopher" == Christopher L Everett writes: > We need to show you Template Toolkit then, and you'll never go back to > HTML::Template. I'm here to learn! -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ceverett at ceverett.com Thu Jun 5 16:09:03 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF requests? References: <244B2826-96BF-11D7-AF73-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> <20030604143746.A29832@ttul.org> <200306051203.05426.cchunt@verio.net> <3EDF917F.5000905@ceverett.com> <86k7c0xq6d.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <3EDFA900.5010203@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <3EDFB16F.2040108@ceverett.com> Christopher L. Everett wrote: > Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher L Everett >>>>>>> writes: >>>>>> > >> We need to show you Template Toolkit then, and you'll never go back to >> HTML::Template. > > > I'm here to learn! > Oh, and before I forget, somwwhere in here I'd like to learn about how to produce WAP output, preferably by extending what I already know. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From lranen at hotmail.com Thu Jun 5 15:47:30 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] miami cuban food Message-ID: I'm up for a trip to South Beach, or whatever for Cuban food. I used to go the "La Carretta", but that was YEARS ago! -- more than I should admit too ;) lynn >From: "Christopher L. Everett" >Reply-To: yapc@mail.pm.org >To: yapc@mail.pm.org >Subject: Re: [yapc] miami cuban food >Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:48:05 -0500 > >Kevin Meltzer wrote: >>Hialeah really isn't very interesting.. South Beach is the place to go >>when in the Miami area. Good Cuban food is all around Miami, as it is a >>suburb of Cuba itself. So, you can't go wrong. Going to Hialeah instead >>of South Beach is like going to Trenton, NJ instead of Manhattan. > >So food is an understood problem seems like ... just keep me out of >those chichi joints where the they have more plate than food and you >pay mega $$$ and still walk out hungry. > >So, what do we do for some good down home Afro-Cuban jazz/folk music? >It's gotta have a horn section, congas, and be smoking ... > > >-- >Christopher L. Everett >Chief Technology Officer >The Medical Banner Exchange >Physicians Employment on the Internet > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 5 16:09:28 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] New Maps on Website Message-ID: <20030605210928.GE95574@perlguy.com> I added links to two useful maps on the website, but here they are for you folks (but, checking the YAPC::NA website as the conference draws near is a Good Thing). Map of campus: http://wise.fau.edu/admin/traffic/map.htm Map of the University Center: http://www.fau.edu/universitycenter/welcome/tour.htm Meals and lectures will be in the Grand Palm Room and Live Oak Pavilion (B, C and D). Another cool map is here: http://www.fau.edu/map/bocamap1.html Floor plans of the Indian River dorms is here: http://www.fau.edu/housing/halls.pdf I believe people will be getting doubles.. so that would be the 'Premium Suite'. There is no fridge, but there is a kitchen with a full size fridge in the building. Picture of the Indian River Towers: http://www.fau.edu/map/images/irtc.htm Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] The difference between whining and advocacy is great. It took me seven years to figure that out. -- Michael J. Fox From yapc at jbisbee.com Thu Jun 5 16:35:11 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] New Maps on Website In-Reply-To: <20030605210928.GE95574@perlguy.com> References: <20030605210928.GE95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030605213511.GC1555@biz> Those of you that are staying in the dorms and you have questions, you can contact: Dahlia Peart Resident Coordinator Indian River Towers (561) 297-5000 dpeart@fau.edu I need a show of hands of those of you who are coming in LATE (after 8 pm) * Kevin Meltzer (perlguy@perlguy.com) wrote: > I added links to two useful maps on the website, but here they are for > you folks (but, checking the YAPC::NA website as the conference draws > near is a Good Thing). > > Map of campus: > http://wise.fau.edu/admin/traffic/map.htm > > Map of the University Center: > http://www.fau.edu/universitycenter/welcome/tour.htm > > Meals and lectures will be in the Grand Palm Room and Live Oak Pavilion > (B, C and D). > > Another cool map is here: > http://www.fau.edu/map/bocamap1.html > > Floor plans of the Indian River dorms is here: > http://www.fau.edu/housing/halls.pdf > > I believe people will be getting doubles.. so that would be the > 'Premium Suite'. There is no fridge, but there is a kitchen with a full > size fridge in the building. > > Picture of the Indian River Towers: > http://www.fau.edu/map/images/irtc.htm > > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > The difference between whining and advocacy is great. It took me seven years to > figure that out. > -- Michael J. Fox > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 5 17:28:29 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] New Maps on Website In-Reply-To: <20030605213511.GC1555@biz> References: <20030605210928.GE95574@perlguy.com> <20030605213511.GC1555@biz> Message-ID: <20030605222829.GF95574@perlguy.com> That's late on Sunday. They dorms are staffed until 8, and either they will need to keep someone later, or you will need to get in touch with me/Dahlia for your keys. So, if anyone isn't coming in until after 8 on Sunday, please let us know. Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:35:11PM -0400, Jeff Bisbee (yapc@jbisbee.com) said something similar to: > Those of you that are staying in the dorms and you have questions, you > can contact: > > Dahlia Peart > Resident Coordinator > Indian River Towers > (561) 297-5000 > dpeart@fau.edu > > I need a show of hands of those of you who are coming in LATE > (after 8 pm) > > * Kevin Meltzer (perlguy@perlguy.com) wrote: > > I added links to two useful maps on the website, but here they are for > > you folks (but, checking the YAPC::NA website as the conference draws > > near is a Good Thing). > > > > Map of campus: > > http://wise.fau.edu/admin/traffic/map.htm > > > > Map of the University Center: > > http://www.fau.edu/universitycenter/welcome/tour.htm > > > > Meals and lectures will be in the Grand Palm Room and Live Oak Pavilion > > (B, C and D). > > > > Another cool map is here: > > http://www.fau.edu/map/bocamap1.html > > > > Floor plans of the Indian River dorms is here: > > http://www.fau.edu/housing/halls.pdf > > > > I believe people will be getting doubles.. so that would be the > > 'Premium Suite'. There is no fridge, but there is a kitchen with a full > > size fridge in the building. > > > > Picture of the Indian River Towers: > > http://www.fau.edu/map/images/irtc.htm > > > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > The difference between whining and advocacy is great. It took me seven years to > > figure that out. > > -- Michael J. Fox > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Disciple - Who is Buddha? Zen Master - Who is asking? From jkeen at concentric.net Thu Jun 5 18:54:00 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B256463327@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c32bc0$a49d6700$50b80340@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Yee, Amiel" To: Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: RE: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials > Maybe a CD might be an alternative, for those who don't have broadband. > > Amiel > Another good reason to distribute via CD-ROM! And of course if all the material were available in PDF on CD by conference start time, it would be relatively easy to do printouts for those who wished to pay for them. From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 4 18:37:15 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can DR> have a Go BOF. i'd love to play some go. i am an experienced and rusty beginner. just haven't played much in a while. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 5 20:20:46 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030606012046.GD1707@perlguy.com> I'd just like to learn :) So, if someone can teach me, I'd be much appreciative! Cheers, Kevin On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 07:37:15PM -0400, Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) said something similar to: > >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: > > DR> I'll be bring a board and stones. If others do as well we can > DR> have a Go BOF. > > i'd love to play some go. i am an experienced and rusty beginner. just > haven't played much in a while. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have stopped banging their heads against?" --Larry Wall in <1992Aug26.184221.29627@netlabs.com> From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 5 22:00:15 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: <20030606012046.GD1707@perlguy.com> References: <20030606012046.GD1707@perlguy.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "KM" == Kevin Meltzer writes: KM> I'd just like to learn :) So, if someone can teach me, I'd be much KM> appreciative! go can be taught in 5 minutes. and because of its builtin handicapping system you can play a wide range of players (better or worse). i am not great but i could give you 9 stones (that is like 9 free moves but they have to be in predetermined places) and we might have a decent game. on the other hand some at yapc could give me 9 stones. a good player could cream me even with that handicap. and the complexity is much greater than chess. the opening (on an empty board) is the hardest part and takes the longest in tournaments whereas in chess the openings are almost all book. computers still suck at go whereas we have seen them get very good at chess. if there are enough boards (i will have to see if i have a portable one) i will be glad to teach you. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From alan at alanspector.org Thu Jun 5 22:09:48 2003 From: alan at alanspector.org (Alan Spector) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That sounds really cool, I'd like to learn too. Alan On 6/5/03 11:00 PM, "Uri Guttman" wrote: >>>>>> "KM" == Kevin Meltzer writes: > > KM> I'd just like to learn :) So, if someone can teach me, I'd be much > KM> appreciative! > > go can be taught in 5 minutes. and because of its builtin handicapping > system you can play a wide range of players (better or worse). i am not > great but i could give you 9 stones (that is like 9 free moves but they > have to be in predetermined places) and we might have a decent game. on > the other hand some at yapc could give me 9 stones. a good player could > cream me even with that handicap. > > and the complexity is much greater than chess. the opening (on an empty > board) is the hardest part and takes the longest in tournaments whereas > in chess the openings are almost all book. computers still suck at go > whereas we have seen them get very good at chess. > > if there are enough boards (i will have to see if i have a portable one) > i will be glad to teach you. > > uri From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 22:21:26 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Alan Spector wrote: > That sounds really cool, I'd like to learn too. If there's a lot of first time people who want to learn we might be able to grab a room with a projector and I could do a quick teaching session with my laptop, actually. Like Uri, said the rules can be explained _very_ quickly, and the basic ideas are very simple. Learning to play well is harder ;) I will also be bringing a board. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 5 22:31:21 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Alan Spector wrote: >> That sounds really cool, I'd like to learn too. DR> If there's a lot of first time people who want to learn we might DR> be able to grab a room with a projector and I could do a quick DR> teaching session with my laptop, actually. Like Uri, said the DR> rules can be explained _very_ quickly, and the basic ideas are DR> very simple. Learning to play well is harder ;) DR> I will also be bringing a board. and if we have net access, we can play on yahoo (java on the browser). there are ways to play with java native but i don't have it installed. what is nice about yahoo games is that we can control who is playing, who watches and have a chat room for each game. and multiple games/players/watchers are fine. so we will have enough boards no matter what. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From chris at cwinters.com Thu Jun 5 22:56:16 2003 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> Dave Rolsky wrote: > If there's a lot of first time people who want to learn we might be able > to grab a room with a projector and I could do a quick teaching session > with my laptop, actually. Like Uri, said the rules can be explained > _very_ quickly, and the basic ideas are very simple. Learning to play > well is harder ;) I'm game too. I inherited a Go board a while ago but never got a chance to learn. I'd be happy to bring it. Then again... this won't become another hobby to obsess over, will it? :-) Chris -- Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988. From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 23:21:54 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > and if we have net access, we can play on yahoo (java on the > browser). there are ways to play with java native but i don't have it > installed. KGS is probably better. I've not used Yahoo. I play on KGS a lot as "autarch" (duh) if anyone wants to have a crack at me before YAPC ;) > what is nice about yahoo games is that we can control who is playing, > who watches and have a chat room for each game. and multiple > games/players/watchers are fine. We can do that on KGS too. But real boards are fun too. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 23:22:59 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> References: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Chris Winters wrote: > Then again... this won't become another hobby to obsess over, will > it? :-) Hmm, does going to sleep thinking over the games you played that day count as obsession? -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 23:32:42 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] [mostly OT] Some Go links Message-ID: In case people who are interested in learning want to get a head start, here's a few links: If you've _never_ played before - start with "The Way To Go" - http://www.usgo.org/usa/waytogo/W2Go8x11.pdf This will teach the rules and basic concepts of the game. Then check out the Beginner Study Section of Sensei's Library - http://senseis.xmp.net/?BeginnerStudySection I don't mind teaching total beginners but you'll learn more by learning the rules first and then getting a chance to play a game or two against some more experienced players. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 5 23:51:06 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Chris Winters wrote: >> Then again... this won't become another hobby to obsess over, will >> it? :-) DR> Hmm, does going to sleep thinking over the games you played that DR> day count as obsession? no. NOT being able to sleep because you are going over a game you played that day counts as an obsession. :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 5 23:49:54 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: >> and if we have net access, we can play on yahoo (java on the >> browser). there are ways to play with java native but i don't have >> it installed. DR> KGS is probably better. I've not used Yahoo. I play on KGS a lot DR> as "autarch" (duh) if anyone wants to have a crack at me before DR> YAPC ;) url? yahoo has pretty decent systems IMO. it works and is easy to use. i am sure they don't have a monopoly on that. :) DR> But real boards are fun too. but of course! the problem is my home board is a full table which is decidedly not portable. very gorgeous and bought at a miami beach art fair. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From chris at cwinters.com Fri Jun 6 00:16:50 2003 From: chris at cwinters.com (Chris Winters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> Message-ID: <3EE023C2.2060907@cwinters.com> Dave Rolsky wrote: > Hmm, does going to sleep thinking over the games you played that day count > as obsession? I'm not a professional, but I'd say yet. Triple word score if you dream of the moves in your games as perl objects interacting. Quick trip to the loony bin if you dream of your moves as SOAP calls. Chris -- Chris Winters (chris@cwinters.com) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988. From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Fri Jun 6 03:42:12 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: (Dave Rolsky's message of "Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:21:26 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: Dave Rolsky writes: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Alan Spector wrote: > >> That sounds really cool, I'd like to learn too. > > If there's a lot of first time people who want to learn we might be able > to grab a room with a projector and I could do a quick teaching session > with my laptop, actually. Like Uri, said the rules can be explained > _very_ quickly, and the basic ideas are very simple. Learning to play > well is harder ;) Daft as it sounds, it's easier to learn if you're amongst a bunch of beginners with some experienced players about to ask questions because you'll be playing against people at your level. > I will also be bringing a board. It's relatively easy to make 9x9 boards with a printer. A full set of stones will serve 4 9x9 boards reasonably happy, and 9x9 is definitely where it's at for beginners anyway. I'll bring a 9x9/13x13 board which will pack relatively easily, but I'm unlikely to be bringing stones (at least, I won't be bringing the stones in their bowls, I'll see about packing enough for the 13x13 though. -- Piers From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Fri Jun 6 03:42:46 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: (Uri Guttman's message of "Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:49:54 -0400") References: Message-ID: Uri Guttman writes: >>>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: > > DR> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > > >> and if we have net access, we can play on yahoo (java on the > >> browser). there are ways to play with java native but i don't have > >> it installed. > > DR> KGS is probably better. I've not used Yahoo. I play on KGS a lot > DR> as "autarch" (duh) if anyone wants to have a crack at me before > DR> YAPC ;) > > url? yahoo has pretty decent systems IMO. it works and is easy to use. i > am sure they don't have a monopoly on that. :) > > DR> But real boards are fun too. > > but of course! the problem is my home board is a full table which is > decidedly not portable. very gorgeous and bought at a miami beach art > fair. Ooh, we have to play when I visit. -- Piers From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Fri Jun 6 03:44:32 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: <3EE023C2.2060907@cwinters.com> (Chris Winters's message of "Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:16:50 -0400") References: <3EE010E0.8060305@cwinters.com> <3EE023C2.2060907@cwinters.com> Message-ID: Chris Winters writes: > Dave Rolsky wrote: >> Hmm, does going to sleep thinking over the games you played that day count >> as obsession? > > I'm not a professional, but I'd say yet. Triple word score if you > dream of the moves in your games as perl objects interacting. Quick > trip to the loony bin if you dream of your moves as SOAP calls. At one point I'd roughed out a basic design for playing Kill Doctor Lucky on the web. It never got much beyond working out class/object interactions for representing rooms, boards, lines of site etc, and I never actually cut code. But I might do one of these days... -- Piers From maryjane at castlebranch.com Fri Jun 6 08:41:21 2003 From: maryjane at castlebranch.com (Maryjane R. Eldred) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: <20030606012046.GD1707@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <1054906881.1493.91.camel@penguin4> On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 23:00, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "KM" == Kevin Meltzer writes: > > KM> I'd just like to learn :) So, if someone can teach me, I'd be much > KM> appreciative! > Me too! > uri -- Maryjane R. Eldred Castle Branch Inc. From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 6 10:30:34 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Go players? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "PC" == Piers Cawley writes: PC> Uri Guttman writes: >> but of course! the problem is my home board is a full table which >> is decidedly not portable. very gorgeous and bought at a miami >> beach art fair. PC> Ooh, we have to play when I visit. oh, for sure. i haven't used the table for go in way too long. my good buddy who i used to play against every few months has kids now and doesn't have the time. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From robindarby at mac.com Fri Jun 6 13:27:56 2003 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <86of1cxqbk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <97C9B908-984C-11D7-89A8-0003939693AC@mac.com> On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 08:43 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Christopher" == Christopher L Everett >>>>>> writes: > > Christopher> PDF has that high overhead quotient. Maybe having the > time to > Christopher> reinstall Acrobat Reader (apologies to RMS, the open > source > Christopher> alternatives just won't do it for me until they plug into > my > Christopher> browser) on my box would make a difference. OTOH my > current > Christopher> acroread problems could just be a libc incompatibility. > > Christopher> Given the chance, I opt for elegant (some would say brute) > Christopher> simplicity :) > > PDF has some necessary overhead, yes, but it is clearly the industry > standard > for Portable Documents. > > Maybe you need to upgrade to a decent OS, like MacOSX? I've got a > plugin that lets me view PDF in my two favorite browsers. :) Here, here, and just to prove it, I'm off to WWDC right after YAPC (well its one way to get your PHB to pay for your holidays :)... PDF, HTML, raw HEX dump, all cool with me, don't really need to lug tones of paper back to the uk. Ow, and as I'm on a Mac rant - Is there anyone else out there using Mac::Carbon?? Thanks Robin... From snowdogyyz at earthlink.net Sat Jun 7 10:56:20 2003 From: snowdogyyz at earthlink.net (Greg Barr) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Opinions Please on Materials In-Reply-To: <20030604222135.GH95574@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <94E613FA-9900-11D7-A107-000393AF78C6@earthlink.net> Save the trees! On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 06:21 PM, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > One of the things I have left to do is get the materials I have from > some speakers ready for you folks. I was going to print and bind them, > but was wondering if people would be ok with me just putting what I > have online (aside for one speaker who requested his materials not be > in electronic format). Why you ask... > > a) Saves money for TPF > b) Saves some trees > c) We all have computers and can print what we need > d) Not all speakers sent me materials > e) It would be easier for updating materials, and adding materials. > f) One less thing for me to be stressed over :-) > g) I don't want to over or under print > > I'd put what I have now, and whatever is sent to me on the website > next week so people have time to print what they need before they come, > or just download down to their laptops to bring along. Aside for one > speaker, which I will have to print his materials. > > Since about everyone registered is on this list (if they read it or > not), I figure I would get the opinion of the masses. Feel free to > email me directly with a "I don't mind, I like electronic docs better", > or "Kill some trees!!" > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? > Zen Master - It is. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 7 12:11:13 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc projectors In-Reply-To: <20030530233526.GA23992@biz> References: <20030530191444.GA69540@faciane.com> <20030530233526.GA23992@biz> Message-ID: yapc is in need of projectors and they rent for $200+ a day. i propose we lend them the boston.pm projector. i can't take it there as i have no spare carryon room. can someone from boston.pm who is going get it from ronald and bring it there? i think this is a monger to monger share and worthy. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From drew at drewtaylor.com Sat Jun 7 13:17:34 2003 From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc projectors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4FE7CD87-9914-11D7-8319-000502C11526@drewtaylor.com> I'm going, and should have room with our carry-ons. On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 01:11 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > yapc is in need of projectors and they rent for $200+ a day. i propose > we lend them the boston.pm projector. i can't take it there as i have > no > spare carryon room. can someone from boston.pm who is going get it from > ronald and bring it there? i think this is a monger to monger share and > worthy. From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 7 20:42:10 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc projectors In-Reply-To: <4FE7CD87-9914-11D7-8319-000502C11526@drewtaylor.com> References: <4FE7CD87-9914-11D7-8319-000502C11526@drewtaylor.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DT" == Drew Taylor writes: DT> I'm going, and should have room with our carry-ons. then get in touch with ronald so you can pick it up. or even better, come to the meeting tuesday and take it home with you. i do want to hear from jeff brisbee (south florida pm) so he knows we are providing a projector. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From yapc at jbisbee.com Sun Jun 8 02:39:21 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc projectors In-Reply-To: References: <4FE7CD87-9914-11D7-8319-000502C11526@drewtaylor.com> Message-ID: <20030608073921.GA13711@biz> Uri, Thanks, one down, one to go :) * Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) wrote: > >>>>> "DT" == Drew Taylor writes: > > DT> I'm going, and should have room with our carry-ons. > > then get in touch with ronald so you can pick it up. or even better, > come to the meeting tuesday and take it home with you. i do want to hear > from jeff brisbee (south florida pm) so he knows we are providing a > projector. > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From drew at drewtaylor.com Sun Jun 8 05:29:40 2003 From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc projectors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1CE651BE-999C-11D7-8319-000502C11526@drewtaylor.com> On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 09:42 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "DT" == Drew Taylor writes: > > DT> I'm going, and should have room with our carry-ons. > > then get in touch with ronald so you can pick it up. or even better, > come to the meeting tuesday and take it home with you. i do want to > hear > from jeff brisbee (south florida pm) so he knows we are providing a > projector. I was planning on being there, so I definitely will be now. Ronald, I'll see you (and the projector) on Tuesday night. From perlguy at perlguy.com Mon Jun 9 20:07:33 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talks Message-ID: <20030610010733.GT12629@perlguy.com> Hey folks, Just a reminder that you still have some time to submit a Lightning Talk. This year, Geoff Avery will be hosting in MJDs absence. Lightning talks are brief (5-minute) talks that focus on a single example, idea, project, or technique. Lightning talks do not attempt to cover all aspects of their subject matter, but rather to present one facet of the idea clearly and succinctly. To submit a proposal for a lightning talk, please send your proposed title and an abstract of up to four sentences to: mjd-yapc-lt-2003+@plover.com Check the schedule for when LTs will be held. They are always fun to do, and fun to watch.. and you don't need to be a seasoned speaker to do one! Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I keep looking for the "Crash after viewing X pages" settings in Netscape, but I just can't find it. -- me From tim at consultix-inc.com Mon Jun 9 21:04:11 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:39 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <20030610010733.GT12629@perlguy.com> References: <20030610010733.GT12629@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030609190410.B31720@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 09:07:33PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > Just a reminder that you still have some time to submit a Lightning > Talk. This year, Geoff Avery will be hosting in MJDs absence. Kevin, I'll try to recruit some friends to give talks, so I won't have to do most of them by myself! 8-} But what are "hams" for anyway! 8-} ======================================================= | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)timmaher.org | | JAWCAR ("Just Another White-Camel Award Recipient") | | SPUG Founder & Leader spug(AT)seattleperl.org | | Seattle Perl Users Group www.seattleperl.org | ======================================================= > > Lightning talks are brief (5-minute) talks that focus on a single > example, idea, project, or technique. Lightning talks do not attempt to > cover all aspects of their subject matter, but rather to present one > facet of the idea clearly and succinctly. > > To submit a proposal for a lightning talk, please send your proposed > title and an abstract of up to four sentences to: > > mjd-yapc-lt-2003+@plover.com > > Check the schedule for when LTs will be held. They are always fun to > do, and fun to watch.. and you don't need to be a seasoned speaker to > do one! > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > I keep looking for the "Crash after viewing X pages" settings in Netscape, but > I just can't find it. > -- me > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From ceverett at ceverett.com Tue Jun 10 04:36:14 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Dorm Arrival Message-ID: <3EE5A68E.3000405@ceverett.com> I just got my ticket, and I see that my flight arrives in Ft. Lauderdale at 7:03 PM. I'm almost certain to arrive at FAU after 8:00 PM, when the normal process for getting a room key ends. I know I'm supposed to connect with someone to get a key, but I'm not sure who, I deleted the email. Anyone have a clue stick they can tap me with? -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From perlguy at perlguy.com Tue Jun 10 07:44:41 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Dorm Arrival In-Reply-To: <3EE5A68E.3000405@ceverett.com> References: <3EE5A68E.3000405@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030610124441.GV12629@perlguy.com> I have a large cluebat which says "ME" :-) I'll make sure you have a key.. I'll be in touch. Cheers, Kevin On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:36:14AM -0500, Christopher L. Everett (ceverett@ceverett.com) said something similar to: > I just got my ticket, and I see that my flight arrives in Ft. Lauderdale at > 7:03 PM. I'm almost certain to arrive at FAU after 8:00 PM, when the normal > process for getting a room key ends. I know I'm supposed to connect with > someone to get a key, but I'm not sure who, I deleted the email. > > Anyone have a clue stick they can tap me with? > > -- > Christopher L. Everett > Chief Technology Officer > The Medical Banner Exchange > Physicians Employment on the Internet > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] All people have the right to be stupid, some people just abuse it! -- Frank Zappa From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 14:24:30 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Shuttle service from airport and room availability In-Reply-To: <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> References: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Prakash Kailasa wrote: > I happened meet my doubletree contact this weekend and asked him about > the shuttle service. Here's what I found. > > - The shuttle service is not provided by Doubletree itself, but by > a third party. Doubletree provides their contact number and the > guests would call them directly to make arrangements. > > - They have this service available not only from Palm Beach, but > also from Ft. Lauderdale and Miami airports. PBI and FLL > shuttles cost $15 per person, MIA costs $25 (please double check > these numbers as he wasn't 100% sure about them). > > So, if you want to use this service, call the hotel to get the number > of ths shuttle service and make necessary arrangements. I just called and they recommended "Super Shuttle", but didn't have any contact info for them. A quick web search suggests that they really aren't very cheap from FLL. The floridalimo.com site mentioned previously on the list appears to have better rates. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From tim at consultix-inc.com Tue Jun 10 15:05:56 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: References: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> Message-ID: <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:24:30PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Prakash Kailasa wrote: > I just called and they recommended "Super Shuttle", but didn't have any > contact info for them. A quick web search suggests that they really > aren't very cheap from FLL. The floridalimo.com site mentioned previously > on the list appears to have better rates. > > > -dave There's also the light rail service, "Tri-Rail", 1-800-TRI-RAIL (www.tri-rail.com), that operates trains from the airports up and down the coast, with a stop that's allegedly "right in front of the Doubletree hotel" (called "Boca Raton"). I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, for the very reasonable fee of $4. Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for me at the train stop. -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 15:11:50 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Tim Maher wrote: > There's also the light rail service, "Tri-Rail", 1-800-TRI-RAIL > (www.tri-rail.com), that operates trains from the airports > up and down the coast, with a stop that's allegedly "right in > front of the Doubletree hotel" (called "Boca Raton"). > > I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, That's an interesting theory since the train doesn't seem to arrive at FLL until 8:08 on Sunday evening, with the previous train being at 5:08 ;) > at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, > for the very reasonable fee of $4. The floridalimo service is only $15, and if other people were to come with me, we could get 5 people (I think) in a private car for $55 total. I considered the train, but it doesn't leave until 2 hours after I land (on Saturday around 3 PM). -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From mrodrigu at ieee.org Tue Jun 10 15:12:54 2003 From: mrodrigu at ieee.org (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Tim Maher wrote: > Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make > a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, > with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating > target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for > me at the train stop. I'll be getting to FLL a little earlier (4:15) so if others arrive around that time we can make an "early party". I will probably be wearing a Perl T-Shirt of some sort and an EFF cap. Michel Rodriguez IEEE Standards - Electronic Services From andrew at broscom.com Tue Jun 10 15:18:08 2003 From: andrew at broscom.com (Andrew Brosnan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: On 6/10/03 at 1:05 PM, tim@consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) wrote: > > There's also the light rail service, "Tri-Rail", 1-800-TRI-RAIL > (www.tri-rail.com), that operates trains from the airports > up and down the coast, with a stop that's allegedly "right in > front of the Doubletree hotel" (called "Boca Raton"). > > I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, > at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, > for the very reasonable fee of $4. > > Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make > a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, > with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating > target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for > me at the train stop. > Schedules are light on the weekends: On 5/29/03 at 3:24 PM, pk-sofla-pm@kailasa.net (Prakash Kailasa) wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:58:22PM -0400, Andrew Brosnan wrote: > > > > I'm staying at the DoubleTree. They claim it is a short, $5 rail > > trip to and from the airports. They also have a free shuttle to and > > from the Campus and other local spots. So I may blow off renting a > > car altogether. > > Here are the schedules for tri-rail (from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale > airports to Boca Raton). > > Weekdays: http://tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wday.htm > Weekends: http://tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wend.htm > > Schedules for the reverse direction (or from West Palm beach airport) > are here: > > Weekdays: http://tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/stm_wday.htm > Weekends: http://tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/stm_wend.htm > > The hotel is very close (walkable) from the Boca Raton tri-rail stop. > > The fare of $5 one-way sounds right. Anyway, there's a fare > calculator at: http://tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/fare_calculator.htm > > HTH, > /prakash From gavin at bock.com Tue Jun 10 15:28:00 2003 From: gavin at bock.com (Gavin Estey) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: <1054313021.1043.152.camel@penguin4> <20030602132542.GK12906@seisint.com> <20030610130556.A2033@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <00ff01c32f8e$c98d2d80$2b1d1e40@gavinw2k> On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:05 PM, Tim Maher wrote: > I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, > at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, > for the very reasonable fee of $4. > > Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make > a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, > with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating > target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for > me at the train stop. According the schedule: http://www.tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wend.htm There is a train leaving FLL 8:08pm arriving 8:49 in Boca Raton. I get in at 7pm so I guess that's the next train for me. Gavin. From alan at alanspector.org Tue Jun 10 15:32:40 2003 From: alan at alanspector.org (Alan Spector) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <00ff01c32f8e$c98d2d80$2b1d1e40@gavinw2k> Message-ID: FYI: Tri-rail is notorious for being late so be prepared. On 6/10/03 4:28 PM, "Gavin Estey" wrote: > On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:05 PM, Tim Maher > wrote: >> I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, >> at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, >> for the very reasonable fee of $4. >> >> Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make >> a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, >> with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating >> target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for >> me at the train stop. > > According the schedule: > http://www.tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wend.htm > > There is a train leaving FLL 8:08pm arriving 8:49 in Boca Raton. > > I get in at 7pm so I guess that's the next train for me. > > Gavin. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From lranen at hotmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:12:12 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca -- advice from a local Message-ID: FWIW -- As a general statement, public transportation is South Florida is non-viable. I took the bus to work one day and it took me 4 hours to go about 10 miles. Unless you plan to stay in hotel/on campus, then you are really better off renting a car. Unlike up-north cities, South Florida is spread all over the place -- it's almost an hour drive from Boca to South Beach. It's 30-40 minutes to FLL from Boca, but on a crowded shuttle, unless you are the first stop (doubtful) this could take you several hours. More convenient but more costly, the taxi ride from FLL to Boca would run you about $80 each way. For half that, you could rent a car for the whole trip. See you on Monday ! BTW -- I checked on alamo.com and you can rent an economy car for under $100 Sun 5PM - Wed 9PM. >From: Alan Spector >Reply-To: yapc@mail.pm.org >To: >Subject: Re: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:32:40 -0400 > >FYI: > >Tri-rail is notorious for being late so be prepared. > > > > >On 6/10/03 4:28 PM, "Gavin Estey" wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:05 PM, Tim Maher > > wrote: > >> I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, > >> at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, > >> for the very reasonable fee of $4. > >> > >> Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make > >> a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, > >> with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating > >> target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for > >> me at the train stop. > > > > According the schedule: > > http://www.tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wend.htm > > > > There is a train leaving FLL 8:08pm arriving 8:49 in Boca Raton. > > > > I get in at 7pm so I guess that's the next train for me. > > > > Gavin. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From lranen at hotmail.com Tue Jun 10 16:11:18 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca -- advice from a local Message-ID: FWIW -- As a general statement, public transportation is South Florida is non-viable. I took the bus to work one day and it took me 4 hours to go about 10 miles. Unless you plan to stay in hotel/on campus, then you are really better off renting a car. Unlike up-north cities, South Florida is spread all over the place -- it's almost an hour drive from Boca to South Beach. It's 30-40 minutes to FLL from Boca, but on a crowded shuttle, unless you are the first stop (doubtful) this could take you several hours. More convenient but more costly, the taxi ride from FLL to Boca would run you about $80 each way. For half that, you could rent a car for the whole trip. See you on Monday ! BTW -- I checked on alamo.com and you can rent an economy car for under $100 Sun 5PM - Wed 9PM. >From: Alan Spector >Reply-To: yapc@mail.pm.org >To: >Subject: Re: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:32:40 -0400 > >FYI: > >Tri-rail is notorious for being late so be prepared. > > > > >On 6/10/03 4:28 PM, "Gavin Estey" wrote: > > > On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:05 PM, Tim Maher > > wrote: > >> I'll be boarding that train sometime around 7:15pm Sunday, > >> at the Ft Lauderdale airport stop, heading to the Doubletree, > >> for the very reasonable fee of $4. > >> > >> Would any others arriving at FLL care to meet up and make > >> a party of it? If so, I'm a very "distinctive looking" guy, > >> with a proven track record of being an outstanding congregating > >> target (see http://teachmeperl.com for photos), so look for > >> me at the train stop. > > > > According the schedule: > > http://www.tri-rail.com/schedules_fares/ntm_wend.htm > > > > There is a train leaving FLL 8:08pm arriving 8:49 in Boca Raton. > > > > I get in at 7pm so I guess that's the next train for me. > > > > Gavin. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From ceverett at ceverett.com Tue Jun 10 16:42:16 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: Message-ID: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Alan Spector wrote: > FYI: > > Tri-rail is notorious for being late so be prepared. > My flight arrives at 7:03PM at FLL, and I'm staying at the dorms. I just went to the Palm Trans (Palm Beach Bus Co.) site. Seems there's no bus service to FAU from the train station on weekends. So, you have to take the taxi from the Tri-Rail station to FAU, for a distance of 4+ miles, which I'm guessing is another 6 or 7 bucks minimum. Who here would be going to FAU on that 8:08 PM train, that perhaps would like another option that might cost more money, but involve far less hassle? If I get a few responses, we can set up a later FloridaLimo run, or if Dave Rolsky is willing to wait for me to get my baggage I'd go with him. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From gavin at bock.com Tue Jun 10 16:28:54 2003 From: gavin at bock.com (Gavin Estey) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <012901c32f97$4b2b6c50$2b1d1e40@gavinw2k> On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:42 PM, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > Who here would be going to FAU on that 8:08 PM train, that perhaps > would like another option that might cost more money, but involve > far less hassle? > Me. From mrodrigu at ieee.org Tue Jun 10 16:29:18 2003 From: mrodrigu at ieee.org (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca -- advice from a local In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Lynn Ranen wrote: > FWIW -- > > As a general statement, public transportation is South Florida is > non-viable. > > BTW -- I checked on alamo.com and you can rent an economy car for under $100 > Sun 5PM - Wed 9PM. OK, so I checked alamo, then found Enterprise to be cheaper. I will rent a car around 4:30 pm at FLL and go to the Doubletree from there. I'll be happy to give a ride to fellow YAPCers who need it. Michel From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 16:30:13 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > If I get a few responses, we can set up a later FloridaLimo run, > or if Dave Rolsky is willing to wait for me to get my baggage > I'd go with him. I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not Sunday, as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how everyone else is managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're staying til the next Sunday. I didn't want to pay business traveller rates for the flight. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 17:03:45 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not DR> Sunday, as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how DR> everyone else is managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're DR> staying til the next Sunday. I didn't want to pay business DR> traveller rates for the flight. you may not have heard but they dropped the required saturday stayover for florida. this is what lucille adler (dave's mom) told me. i have been to florida twice recently with no saturday stay and got decent fares. this may only be true for the northeast or other regions. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Jun 10 17:06:00 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <863cihlh9z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Rolsky writes: Dave> I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not Sunday, Dave> as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how everyone else is Dave> managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're staying til the next Sunday. Dave> I didn't want to pay business traveller rates for the flight. Let me state that I'm arriving FLL around 5:15pm on *saturday* as well, and have room in my rental car for a few others. So far, no takers. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tim at consultix-inc.com Tue Jun 10 17:23:00 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030610152300.A2669@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 06:03:45PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: > > DR> I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not > DR> Sunday, as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how > DR> everyone else is managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're > DR> staying til the next Sunday. I didn't want to pay business > DR> traveller rates for the flight. > > you may not have heard but they dropped the required saturday stayover > for florida. this is what lucille adler (dave's mom) told me. i have > been to florida twice recently with no saturday stay and got decent > fares. > > this may only be true for the northeast or other regions. > > uri Nope, it works from Seattle too. This is my 3rd trip to FL in the last year, and I never would have saved any noticeable amount of money by staying over a Saturday (I know, because I checked). On this trip, I'm flying Continental for $306. (I boycotted them for 15 years, after they tried to kill me a few times, but by now all their competitors are in my bad books too, so all is (relatively) forgiven 8-}) -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From andrew at broscom.com Tue Jun 10 20:01:40 2003 From: andrew at broscom.com (Andrew Brosnan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <863cihlh9z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On 6/10/03 at 3:06 PM, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Rolsky writes: > > Dave> I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, > not Sunday, Dave> as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how > everyone else is Dave> managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're > staying til the next Sunday. Dave> I didn't want to pay business > traveller rates for the flight. > > Let me state that I'm arriving FLL around 5:15pm on *saturday* as > well, and have room in my rental car for a few others. So far, no > takers. > Could you come and pick me up on Sunday? ;-) From ceverett at ceverett.com Tue Jun 10 21:29:49 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <3EE6941D.807@ceverett.com> Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > >>If I get a few responses, we can set up a later FloridaLimo run, >>or if Dave Rolsky is willing to wait for me to get my baggage >>I'd go with him. > > > I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not Sunday, > as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how everyone else is > managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're staying til the next Sunday. Don't know where I got the idea that you'd be there on Sunday. Take two of these three: fast, cheap, hassle-free. Sound familiar? Since Southern FL can't bring itself to meet the standards of Western Civilization ;), we need to hack up an open source transportation protocol. Unless there's a local to do the job, I'm willing to make sure that everyone who needs a ride to/from FLL to Boca can get one. The Rolsky Florida Limo Idea looks good -- they have vans if we get more than 5 people. I'm guessing it may be possible to stop at the DoubleTree and then go on to FAU from there in good jazz style. I've got Gavin Espey down on my list of Sunday evening ride buddies, with Tim Maher as a possible co-conspirator. Anyone else? Email me privately @ ceverett@ceverett.com with the subject line "Boca or Bust". -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From gordon at visi.com Tue Jun 10 22:58:58 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030611035858.GA3857@pan> I expect to be on that train Sunday arriving Boca at 8:49pm, too, except I'll be picking it up in Miami. I'm headed for the dorms, thinking that sharing a taxi from the train to FAU might be least cost/hassle. I'll keep an eye out at Boca station for likely looking folks. I'm 5'10", skinny with greying chin stubble. Gordon On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:42:16PM -0500, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > I just went to the Palm Trans (Palm Beach Bus Co.) site. Seems > there's no bus service to FAU from the train station on weekends. > So, you have to take the taxi from the Tri-Rail station to FAU, > for a distance of 4+ miles, which I'm guessing is another 6 or 7 > bucks minimum. > - Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From mark at nolab.conman.org Tue Jun 10 23:29:01 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > I just went to the Palm Trans (Palm Beach Bus Co.) site. Seems > there's no bus service to FAU from the train station on weekends. > So, you have to take the taxi from the Tri-Rail station to FAU, > for a distance of 4+ miles, which I'm guessing is another 6 or 7 > bucks minimum. It's about a 40 minute walk if anybody wants exercise. I've done it (just for exercise) and at 7:00pm it may even be pleasant (if the sun goes down). L8r, Mark G. From gordon at visi.com Tue Jun 10 23:53:39 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] From Tri-Rail to FAU In-Reply-To: References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <20030611045339.GC3857@pan> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 12:29:01AM -0400, Mark Grosberg wrote: > > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > > So, you have to take the taxi from the Tri-Rail station to FAU, > > for a distance of 4+ miles, which I'm guessing is another 6 or 7 > > bucks minimum. > > It's about a 40 minute walk if anybody wants exercise. I've done it > (just for exercise) and at 7:00pm it may even be pleasant (if the sun > goes down). That's nice to know; 2 miles I could consider, but not 4+ with the pack I'll have. Or maybe not after a few hours in the tropical heat. - Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From ceverett at ceverett.com Wed Jun 11 00:29:26 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: Message-ID: <3EE6BE36.6090209@ceverett.com> Mark Grosberg wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > > >>I just went to the Palm Trans (Palm Beach Bus Co.) site. Seems >>there's no bus service to FAU from the train station on weekends. >>So, you have to take the taxi from the Tri-Rail station to FAU, >>for a distance of 4+ miles, which I'm guessing is another 6 or 7 >>bucks minimum. > > > It's about a 40 minute walk if anybody wants exercise. I've done it (just > for exercise) and at 7:00pm it may even be pleasant (if the sun goes > down). Tough guy, eh? I once lugged a 40lb suitcase, a laptop and a tenor through several miles of South Manhattan one June midafternoon; not quite misery defined for me, but I won't do it again by choice. Looks like El Capo de Tutti Capo (my boss) is springing for a rental, I can able to help some people out with a ride from FLL airport to FAU. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 11 00:08:09 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] need a ride? Message-ID: i will have a rental car and am landing in PBI/West Palm Beach at 2:38pm on Sunday. if anyone wants a ride to campus or the hotel around that time, let me know. i am leaving from PBI at 12:25 pm on Thursday for anyone who wants a ride in that direction. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From ioannis at earthlink.net Wed Jun 11 04:44:26 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talk Request -- JIT Message-ID: <20030611094426.GA4146@earthlink.net> It is my impression from recent posts that not all Lighting talks have been decided. Perhaps, if there is enough interest, I will be enthusiastic to listen from those who converse well about JIT. Since the goal of these talks is to convey new ideas, or describe a new project, etc,. I can provide good hears and attend the details of what exactly gets compiled to native code, how the state of interpreter is updated (?), and the cause of advantages/disadvantages. If it is not too late, and others can second my motion, I request the favor of initiation to JIT. Thanks -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. Linux or FreeBSD? It's like blonds or brunettes, I like them both. From David_Robins at hilton.com Wed Jun 11 08:32:34 2003 From: David_Robins at hilton.com (David Robins) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <3EE6BE36.6090209@ceverett.com> References: <3EE6BE36.6090209@ceverett.com> Message-ID: <200306110832.34768.David_Robins@hilton.com> On Wednesday 11 June 2003 00:29, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > Mark Grosberg wrote: > Tough guy, eh? I once lugged a 40lb suitcase, a laptop and a tenor > through several miles of South Manhattan one June midafternoon; not > quite misery defined for me, but I won't do it again by choice. Hm, I can top/match that: Pearson International (Toronto), huge (not sure of weight but I packed it pretty full) suitcase that I had to pick up and carry because the little wheels weren't up to the task, laptop case, (fairly big/heavy) camera bag, plastic bag with misc. items, _and a bicycle_, probably up and down the whole terminal at least once, needless to say when I got on the plane/arrived in BC I was not as fresh as the proverbial daisy :). -- Dave Isa. 40:31 From ortega at usa.net Wed Jun 11 09:00:10 2003 From: ortega at usa.net (Luis Ortega) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Parking a FAU In-Reply-To: <20030608073921.GA13711@biz> Message-ID: I visited the the FAU campus this past Sunday and noticed that visitors are supposed to use metered parkings. How is this going to work next week for attendants? I am sorry if this has been asked before or it is posted somewhere. Any indications would be appreciated. From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 09:39:26 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Parking a FAU In-Reply-To: References: <20030608073921.GA13711@biz> Message-ID: <20030611143925.GK12629@perlguy.com> There is a free parking lot (lot #15 or 16) which people will use. It's not metered. Cheers, Kevin On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:00:10AM -0400, Luis Ortega (ortega@usa.net) said something similar to: > I visited the the FAU campus this past Sunday and noticed that visitors are > supposed to use metered parkings. How is this going to work next week for > attendants? > > I am sorry if this has been asked before or it is posted somewhere. Any > indications would be appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Disciple - Master, why isn't everything perfect? Zen Master - It is. From mark at nolab.conman.org Wed Jun 11 09:22:04 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talk Request -- JIT In-Reply-To: <20030611094426.GA4146@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 ioannis@earthlink.net wrote: > If it is not too late, and others can second my motion, I request the favor of > initiation to JIT. A Perl JIT sounds pretty interesting. The Valgrind package has some pretty interesting JIT code in it. There is also a Java JIT project (ElectricalFire) on mozilla.org. But a Perl JIT would be pretty nice for certain scenarios. In particular, mod_perl enabled websites would get an even further performance boost. L8r, Mark G. From fibonaci at babylonia.flatirons.org Wed Jun 11 09:32:29 2003 From: fibonaci at babylonia.flatirons.org (Luke Palmer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talk Request -- JIT In-Reply-To: (message from Mark Grosberg on Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:22:04 -0400 (EDT)) References: Message-ID: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 ioannis@earthlink.net wrote: > > > If it is not too late, and others can second my motion, I request the favor of > > initiation to JIT. > > A Perl JIT sounds pretty interesting. The Valgrind package has some pretty > interesting JIT code in it. There is also a Java JIT project > (ElectricalFire) on mozilla.org. But a Perl JIT would be pretty nice for > certain scenarios. In particular, mod_perl enabled websites would get an > even further performance boost. You must not be following Parrot (the Perl 6 VM), which is what I think the message was referring to. Parrot has a working JIT (ghod it is sooo fast), and would make a nice case study for a Lightning Talk. If only I knew anything about it... :-) Luke From mark at nolab.conman.org Wed Jun 11 09:41:44 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Lightning Talk Request -- JIT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2003, Luke Palmer wrote: > You must not be following Parrot (the Perl 6 VM), which is what I > think the message was referring to. Parrot has a working JIT (ghod it Actually no. I've been put in a Microsoft job due to the downturn of the econonmy. :-( To be honest, I haven't been following much Perl 6 stuff at all. Most of my existing code (outside of my Clippy job) is Perl 5. This kind of brings up a whole interesting point in migrating code to Perl 6 may also be a good lightning talk. > is sooo fast), and would make a nice case study for a Lightning Talk. > If only I knew anything about it... :-) Since my Perl stuff is all offline processing I've never had a problem with the speed of the regular interpreter. At some point I was going to start messing with the bytecode walkers but never even had the need. From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 10:22:11 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online Message-ID: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> Hey folks, From ingy at ttul.org Wed Jun 11 11:19:41 2003 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca In-Reply-To: <863cihlh9z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>; from merlyn@stonehenge.com on Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:06:00PM -0700 References: <3EE650B8.5040402@ceverett.com> <863cihlh9z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20030611091941.B6577@ttul.org> On 10/06/03 15:06 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Rolsky writes: > > Dave> I should stress that I'm arriving on _Saturday_ around 3 PM, not Sunday, > Dave> as most others seem to be doing. I don't know how everyone else is > Dave> managing to arrive on Sunday, unless they're staying til the next Sunday. > Dave> I didn't want to pay business traveller rates for the flight. > > Let me state that I'm arriving FLL around 5:15pm on *saturday* as > well, and have room in my rental car for a few others. So far, no > takers. Randal, I get in 7:26pm on saturday at FLL, so if your flight is late look for me :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Jun 11 12:54:06 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:22:11AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Hey folks, > > >From my "poll", I got more "save trees" then "Kill Trees". So, the > papers I have are on the "schedule" part of the website. If other > speakers wish to send me something to put up there (HINT HINT), please > do. > > One speaker has a large handout, and requested it not be in electronic > format. Could that be me? 8-} I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will know what it's all about. -Tim > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 13:33:55 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:54:06AM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:22:11AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > >From my "poll", I got more "save trees" then "Kill Trees". So, the > > papers I have are on the "schedule" part of the website. If other > > speakers wish to send me something to put up there (HINT HINT), please > > do. > > > > One speaker has a large handout, and requested it not be in electronic > > format. > > Could that be me? 8-} No, Damian actually :) > I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site > before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my > tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will > know what it's all about. Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so folks should be able to.. well.. print :) Cheers, Kevin > -Tim > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, 'What! You too? I thought I was the only one!'" -- C.S. Lewis From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Jun 11 13:48:10 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:33:55PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site > > before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my > > tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will > > know what it's all about. > > Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so > folks should be able to.. well.. print :) > > Cheers, > Kevin I'm not talking about *printing* anything; I'm just saying it would be nice if *talk-descriptions* (as opposed to just talk-*titles*, in lieu of actual talk-documents) should be available for people to browse on the web-site (AFAIK, they're not there right now). But I'm not trying to make any additional work for you either, Kevin, I'm sure you've got enough already! Maybe some brave volunteer will come forward? -Tim > > > -Tim > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > > > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > > > -Tim > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > "Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, 'What! > You too? I thought I was the only one!'" > -- C.S. Lewis > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 14:59:58 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> Putting them up as we speak [sic]. For now, people can just see the directory listing until I have them all up and can do something pretty on the website: http://yapc.org/America/abstracts/ Cheers, Kevin On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:48:10AM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:33:55PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > > > I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site > > > before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my > > > tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will > > > know what it's all about. > > > > Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so > > folks should be able to.. well.. print :) > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > I'm not talking about *printing* anything; I'm just saying > it would be nice if *talk-descriptions* (as opposed to just > talk-*titles*, in lieu of actual talk-documents) should be > available for people to browse on the web-site (AFAIK, they're > not there right now). But I'm not trying to make any additional > work for you either, Kevin, I'm sure you've got enough already! > > Maybe some brave volunteer will come forward? > > -Tim > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > > > > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -Tim > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > "Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, 'What! > > You too? I thought I was the only one!'" > > -- C.S. Lewis > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I replaced the headlights in my car with strobe lights, so it looks like I'm the only one moving. -- Steven Wright From jcarter9 at fuse.net Wed Jun 11 14:39:04 2003 From: jcarter9 at fuse.net (James Carter) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Dorm Arrival References: <3EE5A68E.3000405@ceverett.com> <20030610124441.GV12629@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EE78558.3030605@fuse.net> Kevin, I am in a similar position, though driving in Sun from Ohio., and needing to coordinate. Should we exchange cell phone numbers privately to coordinate? I wrote you directly @perlguy, but perhaps didnt get through your spam filter. It would be a similar time-wise. Thank you. James Carter Kevin Meltzer wrote: >I have a large cluebat which says "ME" :-) > >I'll make sure you have a key.. I'll be in touch. > >Cheers, >Kevin > >On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 04:36:14AM -0500, Christopher L. Everett (ceverett@ceverett.com) said something similar to: > > >>I just got my ticket, and I see that my flight arrives in Ft. Lauderdale at >>7:03 PM. I'm almost certain to arrive at FAU after 8:00 PM, when the normal >>process for getting a room key ends. I know I'm supposed to connect with >>someone to get a key, but I'm not sure who, I deleted the email. >> >>Anyone have a clue stick they can tap me with? >> >> From ceverett at ceverett.com Wed Jun 11 17:33:09 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tri-Rail service from Airports to Boca References: <3EE6BE36.6090209@ceverett.com> <200306110832.34768.David_Robins@hilton.com> Message-ID: <3EE7AE25.6080201@ceverett.com> David Robins wrote: > On Wednesday 11 June 2003 00:29, Christopher L. Everett wrote: > >>Mark Grosberg wrote: >>Tough guy, eh? I once lugged a 40lb suitcase, a laptop and a tenor >>through several miles of South Manhattan one June midafternoon; not >>quite misery defined for me, but I won't do it again by choice. > > > Hm, I can top/match that: Pearson International (Toronto), huge (not sure of > weight but I packed it pretty full) suitcase that I had to pick up and carry > because the little wheels weren't up to the task, laptop case, (fairly > big/heavy) camera bag, plastic bag with misc. items, _and a bicycle_, > probably up and down the whole terminal at least once, needless to say when I > got on the plane/arrived in BC I was not as fresh as the proverbial daisy :). > You got me there. I think we agree that South FL in high summer with concrete hot enough to bake cookies on & not even the poor compensation of seeing topless joggers (that's beach behavior) is not place to repeat those experiences. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From jkeen at concentric.net Wed Jun 11 17:52:31 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Getting to Airport Thursday Morning ... EARLY Message-ID: <00c301c3306c$259181c0$90b80340@concentric.net> The ground transportation options don't look that good, but I think I'll be able to get from FLL to FAU (am staying in dorms) on Sunday afternoon via the Tri-Rail. It appears there's a northbound train from FLL at 2:08 pm. As my flight arrives at 12:20 pm 6/15, that should be okay. But it looks to be more difficult on the return trip. I'll be departing from FLL on Thurs, 6/19 at 7:00 am -- which means getting to the airport by 6:00 am. And the first morning southbound train would be cutting it too close. So, is there anybody else out there who has to get to FLL early Thurs morning (from either dorms or hotel) who would like to share cab/limo/rental costs with me? Thanks in advance. Jim Keenan From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 19:16:22 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals (dorms - last call) Message-ID: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Hey folks, Being that I want to make sure I get people into dorm rooms after 8pm on Sunday, I want to double check who expects to be arriving at the dorms after 8 (or even 7:30 in case you get held up). Here is the list I have. If you aren't on it and emailed me before, please email me (privately) again as I may have missed it. As you may imagine, I am flooded with emails, so I apologize. If you didn't contact me before, do so now! On my list: Helen Cook (Very late) Al Danial James Carter Christopher L. Everett As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the keys. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho? -- Frank Zappa From perlguy at perlguy.com Wed Jun 11 19:32:47 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Parking On Campus Message-ID: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> People staying in the dorms and have cars will get parking passes. Those people who just park on campus during the day will use parking lot #15. Passes are only needed for the dorm lots. Lot #15 is a free lot. Here is a map (also linked off the YAPC site): http://wise.fau.edu/admin/traffic/map.htm The University Center (building 31 on the map) is where the talks will be. The light blue parking lot just to the West of the University Center is lot #15. The Indian River dorms is one of the un-numbered buildings to the South of the UC. The Indian River dorm looks like: http://www.fau.edu/map/images/irte.htm The East and West towers are connected so you just go into the main doors. So, people in the dorms will probably want to just walk to the UC.. not a far walk. Maybe 5-10 minutes. That's all for now. I'll probably be sending more emails like this as things are getting closer! Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Shoot low, they're riding Shetlands -- Frank Zappa From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 11 19:10:51 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] parking passes In-Reply-To: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "KM" == Kevin Meltzer writes: KM> As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the KM> keys. are those for hotel residents too? or do we need to buy them? and from who? uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From ehs at pobox.com Wed Jun 11 19:32:52 2003 From: ehs at pobox.com (Ed Summers) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals (dorms - last call) In-Reply-To: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030612003252.GA15171@ink.inkdroid.org> Please add Ed Summers to your list. I will be getting in around 8:30PM on Sunday. //Ed On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 08:16:22PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > Being that I want to make sure I get people into dorm rooms after 8pm > on Sunday, I want to double check who expects to be arriving at the > dorms after 8 (or even 7:30 in case you get held up). > > Here is the list I have. If you aren't on it and emailed me before, > please email me (privately) again as I may have missed it. As you may > imagine, I am flooded with emails, so I apologize. If you didn't > contact me before, do so now! > > On my list: > > Helen Cook (Very late) > Al Danial > James Carter > Christopher L. Everett > > As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the > keys. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho? > -- Frank Zappa > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- % perl -MData::Dumper -e "print Dumper($me)" $VAR1 = { 'WEB' => 'http://www.inkdroid.org', 'NAME' => 'Ed Summers', 'AIM' => 'inkdroid', 'EMAIL' => 'ehs@pobox.com' }; From lranen at hotmail.com Wed Jun 11 22:51:04 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] local help on Sunday Message-ID: I'm going to be available to help ferry some people from the Train to FAU on Sunday. Not sure if this helps anyone or not. I don't know what the train schedule is like, but if you're luck is like mine, then you can plan on [a] missing a connecting flight; [b] having your flight delayed for several hours; [c] ending up in the wrong airport; [d] all of the above -- in which case your ground transportation plans could be completely hosed. I don't want to see anyone get stranded. Email me offline to get contact information. lynn _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 12 00:11:02 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Saturday night Go? Message-ID: If anyone who will be there on Saturday night wants to play Go, I'll be at the DoubleTree hotel. I might just go hang around the lobby after dinner with my set if there's space, or if someone lets me know in advance I can meet you somewhere. Also, if anyone staying Saturday wants to meet for dinner around 6-7, and is willing to eat at a vegan-friendly place, let me know. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From ioannis at earthlink.net Thu Jun 12 01:20:16 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Computers and Printing In-Reply-To: <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030612062016.GA7881@earthlink.net> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:33:55PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so > folks should be able to.. well.. print :) Allow me to add following, for those planing to use the printer: 1. The CS computer lab is located on the 3rd floor, near the elevator, at the Engineering building -- very close to the dorms (a 5 minute walk). 2. When I was an Assistant Professor at FAU , 3 years ago, they had about 20 Solaris machines, with a 50% chance to find an empty station during the day. Early in the morning, or late at night, should be the best times. You need an account to use these machines . 3. Everywhere else on campus they runs Windows. Lots of PCs in the library with Internet access, no account needed, use as many as you want. To be sure, you will receive the more current information when you arrive at FAU, but that is all I can do for those who wish to plan ahead. -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. Linux or FreeBSD? It's like blonds or brunettes, I like them both. From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 07:15:52 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] parking passes In-Reply-To: References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030612121552.GJ24065@perlguy.com> If you are driving over from the hotel, use lot #15. You only need a pass if you are in the dorm parking lot. Cheers, Kevin On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 08:10:51PM -0400, Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) said something similar to: > >>>>> "KM" == Kevin Meltzer writes: > > KM> As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the > KM> keys. > > are those for hotel residents too? or do we need to buy them? and from > who? > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "Life Is Pain, Highness. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something." -- The Dread Pirate Wesley, in the Princess Bride. From jcromie at divsol.com Thu Jun 12 09:45:48 2003 From: jcromie at divsol.com (Jim Cromie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from airport. ? In-Reply-To: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EE8921C.2080109@divsol.com> Kevin Meltzer wrote: >Hey folks, > >Being that I want to make sure I get people into dorm rooms after 8pm >on Sunday, I want to double check who expects to be arriving at the >dorms after 8 (or even 7:30 in case you get held up). > >Here is the list I have. If you aren't on it and emailed me before, >please email me (privately) again as I may have missed it. As you may >imagine, I am flooded with emails, so I apologize. If you didn't >contact me before, do so now! > >On my list: > >Helen Cook (Very late) >Al Danial >James Carter >Christopher L. Everett > >As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the >keys. > >Cheers, >Kevin > > > Hi Kevin, add me to the list - im also getting in very late, ie 10pm flight into Ft Lauderdale Airport. Helen Cook, are you still inclined to share a cab ? I didnt see anyone else answer my earlier such proposal, but maybe we'll get a couple more yet.. Im on Spirit Air, #679, from Laguardia, in at 10:00 From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 08:33:57 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] South Florida Weather Message-ID: <20030612133357.GS24065@perlguy.com> Hey folks, Surely many people are checking the weather for here for next week. And you probably see "Thunderstorms" listed. For example, weather.com has them listed for the next 10 days. Don't worry, it shouldn't be a constant thunderstorm. In the summer, since this is the sub-tropics, we get an afternoon thunderstorm *almost* every day.. usually around 3 or 4pm. So, to be safe, the weather report for the entire summer is always "Sunny with a chance of an afternoon thunderstorm." The weather forecasters here have an easy job ;-) We may or may not have one, but it is safe to pick up a poncho if you don't like getting wet, just in case, especially if you are staying in the dorms and walking to the UC. Other than that, it will be what you would expect for Florida.. sunny, bright and hot. Pack plenty of shorts! And, as Hiam mentioned a while ago, a sweater or hoody can also come in handy since some indoor places turn the A/C way down. The entrances to the Live Oak rooms are outside, and covered. So, you *will* be outside at times between lectures. Keep these things in mind while packing, and pack accordingly to your tastes for hot and cold and rain! I'd expect it will be sunny for the majority of the time, but do expect a thunderstorm. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. -- Steven Wright From David_Robins at hilton.com Thu Jun 12 09:28:26 2003 From: David_Robins at hilton.com (David Robins) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] Saturday night Go? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200306120928.26859.David_Robins@hilton.com> On Thursday 12 June 2003 00:11, Dave Rolsky wrote: > If anyone who will be there on Saturday night wants to play Go, I'll be at > the DoubleTree hotel. I might just go hang around the lobby after dinner > with my set if there's space, or if someone lets me know in advance I can > meet you somewhere. If you're up to teaching a newbie (I read a lot of the site that was posted earlier but have never played), I'll be there. If not, I'd be interested in watching a game or two, it looks like a game one can sink one's teeth into. > Also, if anyone staying Saturday wants to meet for dinner around 6-7, and > is willing to eat at a vegan-friendly place, let me know. I'd probably be up for that too. -- Dave Isa. 40:31 From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 12 10:33:02 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:40 2004 Subject: [yapc] South Florida Weather Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B256463369@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Yep Kevin is right, and no singing in the rain either unless you carry your own portable lightning rod. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:16 AM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] South Florida Weather > > Hey folks, > > Surely many people are checking the weather for here for next week. And > you probably see "Thunderstorms" listed. For example, weather.com has > them listed for the next 10 days. Don't worry, it shouldn't be a > constant thunderstorm. In the summer, since this is the sub-tropics, we > get an afternoon thunderstorm *almost* every day.. usually around 3 or > 4pm. So, to be safe, the weather report for the entire summer is always > "Sunny with a chance of an afternoon thunderstorm." The weather > forecasters here have an easy job ;-) > > We may or may not have one, but it is safe to pick up a poncho if you > don't like getting wet, just in case, especially if you are staying in > the dorms and walking to the UC. > > Other than that, it will be what you would expect for Florida.. sunny, > bright and hot. Pack plenty of shorts! And, as Hiam mentioned a while > ago, a sweater or hoody can also come in handy since some indoor places > turn the A/C way down. > > The entrances to the Live Oak rooms are outside, and covered. So, you > *will* be outside at times between lectures. > > Keep these things in mind while packing, and pack accordingly to your > tastes for hot and cold and rain! I'd expect it will be sunny for the > majority of the time, but do expect a thunderstorm. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. > -- Steven Wright > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. 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I call those "umbrellas" :-) Cheers, Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:16 AM > > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > > Subject: [yapc] South Florida Weather > > > > Hey folks, > > > > Surely many people are checking the weather for here for next week. And > > you probably see "Thunderstorms" listed. For example, weather.com has > > them listed for the next 10 days. Don't worry, it shouldn't be a > > constant thunderstorm. In the summer, since this is the sub-tropics, we > > get an afternoon thunderstorm *almost* every day.. usually around 3 or > > 4pm. So, to be safe, the weather report for the entire summer is always > > "Sunny with a chance of an afternoon thunderstorm." The weather > > forecasters here have an easy job ;-) > > > > We may or may not have one, but it is safe to pick up a poncho if you > > don't like getting wet, just in case, especially if you are staying in > > the dorms and walking to the UC. > > > > Other than that, it will be what you would expect for Florida.. sunny, > > bright and hot. Pack plenty of shorts! And, as Hiam mentioned a while > > ago, a sweater or hoody can also come in handy since some indoor places > > turn the A/C way down. > > > > The entrances to the Live Oak rooms are outside, and covered. So, you > > *will* be outside at times between lectures. > > > > Keep these things in mind while packing, and pack accordingly to your > > tastes for hot and cold and rain! I'd expect it will be sunny for the > > majority of the time, but do expect a thunderstorm. > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. > > -- Steven Wright > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Stupidity is the basic building block of the universe. -- Frank Zappa From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 11:07:45 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday Dorm Update Message-ID: <20030612160745.GA24065@perlguy.com> FAU will be having the dorm staffed until midnight on Sunday. I'll still be swinging by at some point to say hello to people and make sure everything is going well. Someone will have any keys for folks who don't show up by then. Also, make sure that if you have a car you make sure they give you a parking tag. Ths tag is also good for the lot in front of the University Center (lot #16, not #15 where you don't need a tag). Please do NOT ask for a tag if you do not have a car ;-) I just left parking tags at the dorms, so everything should be set. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Not a speck of cereal. -- Frank Zappa From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 12 10:55:08 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Saturday night Go? In-Reply-To: <200306120928.26859.David_Robins@hilton.com> References: <200306120928.26859.David_Robins@hilton.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, David Robins wrote: > On Thursday 12 June 2003 00:11, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > If anyone who will be there on Saturday night wants to play Go, I'll be at > > the DoubleTree hotel. I might just go hang around the lobby after dinner > > with my set if there's space, or if someone lets me know in advance I can > > meet you somewhere. > > If you're up to teaching a newbie (I read a lot of the site that was posted > earlier but have never played), I'll be there. If not, I'd be interested in > watching a game or two, it looks like a game one can sink one's teeth into. I don't mind teaching, especially if you already know the basic rules. > > Also, if anyone staying Saturday wants to meet for dinner around 6-7, and > > is willing to eat at a vegan-friendly place, let me know. > > I'd probably be up for that too. Why don't we aim to meet in the hotel lobby at 6:30? Does that work? Hopefully other folks will be around by then as well. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From hvc at riff.soundwave.net Thu Jun 12 11:25:04 2003 From: hvc at riff.soundwave.net (Helen Cook) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from MIA? In-Reply-To: <3EE8921C.2080109@divsol.com> References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> <3EE8921C.2080109@divsol.com> Message-ID: <20030612162504.GF22714@soundwave.net> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 08:45:48AM -0600, Jim Cromie wrote: > add me to the list - im also getting in very late, ie 10pm flight into > Ft Lauderdale Airport. > Helen Cook, are you still inclined to share a cab ? Unfortunately, my flight is into Miami. > I didnt see anyone else answer my earlier such proposal, > but maybe we'll get a couple more yet.. Does anyone else have similarly inconvenient travel plans? --h From David_Robins at hilton.com Thu Jun 12 11:43:00 2003 From: David_Robins at hilton.com (David Robins) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Saturday night Go / dinner In-Reply-To: References: <200306120928.26859.David_Robins@hilton.com> Message-ID: <200306121143.00705.David_Robins@hilton.com> On Thursday 12 June 2003 10:55, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, David Robins wrote: > > On Thursday 12 June 2003 00:11, Dave Rolsky wrote: [snip] > > > Also, if anyone staying Saturday wants to meet for dinner around 6-7, > > > and is willing to eat at a vegan-friendly place, let me know. > > > > I'd probably be up for that too. > > Why don't we aim to meet in the hotel lobby at 6:30? > > Does that work? Hopefully other folks will be around by then as well. Works for me. I'm also at BCTYC (the DoubleTree). -- Dave Isa. 40:31 From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Thu Jun 12 12:49:37 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals (dorms - last call) In-Reply-To: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> (Kevin Meltzer's message of "Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:16:22 -0400") References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Kevin Meltzer writes: > Hey folks, > > Being that I want to make sure I get people into dorm rooms after 8pm > on Sunday, I want to double check who expects to be arriving at the > dorms after 8 (or even 7:30 in case you get held up). > > Here is the list I have. If you aren't on it and emailed me before, > please email me (privately) again as I may have missed it. As you may > imagine, I am flooded with emails, so I apologize. If you didn't > contact me before, do so now! > > On my list: > > Helen Cook (Very late) > Al Danial > James Carter > Christopher L. Everett > > As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the > keys. I'll be checking into the dorm on Monday and I'll need a parking pass. Ta. -- Piers From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Thu Jun 12 12:52:35 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Saturday night Go / dinner In-Reply-To: <200306121143.00705.David_Robins@hilton.com> (David Robins's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:43:00 -0500") References: <200306120928.26859.David_Robins@hilton.com> <200306121143.00705.David_Robins@hilton.com> Message-ID: David Robins writes: > On Thursday 12 June 2003 10:55, Dave Rolsky wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, David Robins wrote: >> > On Thursday 12 June 2003 00:11, Dave Rolsky wrote: > [snip] >> > > Also, if anyone staying Saturday wants to meet for dinner around 6-7, >> > > and is willing to eat at a vegan-friendly place, let me know. >> > >> > I'd probably be up for that too. >> >> Why don't we aim to meet in the hotel lobby at 6:30? >> >> Does that work? Hopefully other folks will be around by then as well. > > Works for me. I'm also at BCTYC (the DoubleTree). I'm unlikely to be there... probably doing the 'jetlag recovery' thing at the Biltmore. (Got to love family rates) -- Piers From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 12 13:04:16 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Just a thought and piggybacking off another idea reading along list. I was planning to do tri-rail but now I am planning to drive up there for the conference. So it is possible that I can pass by the Double Tree and pickup a couple of people and take you to FAU in the mornings. You will have to find your way back in the afternoon/evenings since I have to leave that open for family. Hey maybe we can start a Perl convoy (smile)? Just a thought..... Amiel. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 13:33:04 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals (dorms - last call) In-Reply-To: References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030612183304.GG24065@perlguy.com> Ok.. so when you get to the dorms on Monday, as for a parking tag :) Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 06:49:37PM +0100, Piers Cawley (pdcawley@bofh.org.uk) said something similar to: > Kevin Meltzer writes: > > > Hey folks, > > > > Being that I want to make sure I get people into dorm rooms after 8pm > > on Sunday, I want to double check who expects to be arriving at the > > dorms after 8 (or even 7:30 in case you get held up). > > > > Here is the list I have. If you aren't on it and emailed me before, > > please email me (privately) again as I may have missed it. As you may > > imagine, I am flooded with emails, so I apologize. If you didn't > > contact me before, do so now! > > > > On my list: > > > > Helen Cook (Very late) > > Al Danial > > James Carter > > Christopher L. Everett > > > > As well, I will be picking up some parking passes to hand out with the > > keys. > > I'll be checking into the dorm on Monday and I'll need a parking pass. Ta. > > > -- > Piers > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I went to a general store. They wouldn't let me buy anything specifically. -- Steven Wright From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Thu Jun 12 13:16:26 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals (dorms - last call) In-Reply-To: <20030612183304.GG24065@perlguy.com> (Kevin Meltzer's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:33:04 -0400") References: <20030612001622.GF24065@perlguy.com> <20030612183304.GG24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Kevin Meltzer writes: > Ok.. so when you get to the dorms on Monday, as for a parking tag :) D'oh. -- Piers From Kdib at aol.com Thu Jun 12 13:25:05 2003 From: Kdib at aol.com (Kdib@aol.com) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation Message-ID: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> In a message dated 6/12/2003 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com writes: > > > Just a thought and piggybacking off another idea reading along list. I was > planning to do tri-rail but now I am planning to drive up there for the > conference. So it is possible that I can pass by the Double Tree and pickup > a couple of people and take you to FAU in the mornings. You will have to > find your way back in the afternoon/evenings since I have to leave that open > for family. Hey maybe we can start a Perl convoy (smile)? Just a > thought..... > > Amiel. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ++++ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc I am willing to take people to and from the Double tree. Karsten From prlawrence at lehigh.edu Thu Jun 12 09:35:29 2003 From: prlawrence at lehigh.edu (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> References: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030612093529.381166be.prlawrence@lehigh.edu> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:25:05 -0400 Kdib@aol.com wrote: > I am willing to take people to and from the Double tree. I'll sign on for that! Phil From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 14:05:11 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> References: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030612190510.GJ24065@perlguy.com> If someone is willing to be up early, at the campus before anyone else, can contort themself around equipment and boxes, and would help me carry things in.. I'd be happy to drive someone :) Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:25:05PM -0400, Kdib@aol.com (Kdib@aol.com) said something similar to: > In a message dated 6/12/2003 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com writes: > > > > > > > Just a thought and piggybacking off another idea reading along list. I was > > planning to do tri-rail but now I am planning to drive up there for the > > conference. So it is possible that I can pass by the Double Tree and pickup > > a couple of people and take you to FAU in the mornings. You will have to > > find your way back in the afternoon/evenings since I have to leave that open > > for family. Hey maybe we can start a Perl convoy (smile)? Just a > > thought..... > > > > Amiel. > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > I am willing to take people to and from the Double tree. > > Karsten > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back? -- Steven Wright From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 12 13:58:44 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336D@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Kevin do you have a lot of things to carry in because I can pass by your way and pick up some stuff. Only problem is that I will be probably around there about 7:45 - 8:00am. Amiel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:05 PM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > If someone is willing to be up early, at the campus before anyone else, > can contort themself around equipment and boxes, and would help me > carry things in.. I'd be happy to drive someone :) > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:25:05PM -0400, Kdib@aol.com (Kdib@aol.com) said > something similar to: > > In a message dated 6/12/2003 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought and piggybacking off another idea reading along list. > I was > > > planning to do tri-rail but now I am planning to drive up there for > the > > > conference. So it is possible that I can pass by the Double Tree and > pickup > > > a couple of people and take you to FAU in the mornings. You will have > to > > > find your way back in the afternoon/evenings since I have to leave > that open > > > for family. Hey maybe we can start a Perl convoy (smile)? Just a > > > thought..... > > > > > > Amiel. > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, > please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This > e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This > information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to > whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from > your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your > compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ++++ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > I am willing to take people to and from the Double tree. > > > > Karsten > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back? > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From David_Robins at hilton.com Thu Jun 12 13:56:04 2003 From: David_Robins at hilton.com (David Robins) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <20030612190510.GJ24065@perlguy.com> References: <039AB064.34C4CFB5.000030D2@aol.com> <20030612190510.GJ24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <200306121356.04971.David_Robins@hilton.com> On Thursday 12 June 2003 14:05, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > If someone is willing to be up early, at the campus before anyone else, > can contort themself around equipment and boxes, and would help me > carry things in.. I'd be happy to drive someone :) How early is early? What day(s), Mon-Tue-Wed? -- Dave Isa. 40:31 From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 12 14:01:47 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Message-ID: <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> All this talk of ride-sharing from the DoubleTree to FAU has me wondering if I'm mistaken about something. Specifically, I had gotten the idea somewhere that the DoubleTree was going to operate a shuttle to take YAPC conferees to and from FAU. Is this not true? Or are people just interested in setting up private arrangements as an alternative? -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 14:34:05 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336D@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336D@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Message-ID: <20030612193405.GK24065@perlguy.com> I'll have 2 projectors, the badge making computer/printer/monitor, and auction/givaway stuff. It actually shouldn't be bad. Breakfast at the campus will be at 8:30, so I will probably head over at 8 on day 2 and 3 and 7 on day 1. If I see anyone is awake around the hotel, I'll just grab an unwilling vict^H^H^Hvolunteer :) Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:58:44PM -0400, Lee Yee, Amiel (Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com) said something similar to: > Kevin do you have a lot of things to carry in because I can pass by your way > and pick up some stuff. Only problem is that I will be probably around > there about 7:45 - 8:00am. > > Amiel. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:05 PM > > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > > > If someone is willing to be up early, at the campus before anyone else, > > can contort themself around equipment and boxes, and would help me > > carry things in.. I'd be happy to drive someone :) > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:25:05PM -0400, Kdib@aol.com (Kdib@aol.com) said > > something similar to: > > > In a message dated 6/12/2003 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought and piggybacking off another idea reading along list. > > I was > > > > planning to do tri-rail but now I am planning to drive up there for > > the > > > > conference. So it is possible that I can pass by the Double Tree and > > pickup > > > > a couple of people and take you to FAU in the mornings. You will have > > to > > > > find your way back in the afternoon/evenings since I have to leave > > that open > > > > for family. Hey maybe we can start a Perl convoy (smile)? Just a > > > > thought..... > > > > > > > > Amiel. > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, > > please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This > > e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This > > information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to > > whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from > > your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your > > compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > ++++ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > I am willing to take people to and from the Double tree. > > > > > > Karsten > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back? > > -- Steven Wright > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back? -- Steven Wright From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 14:36:34 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> People can arrange with the DoubleTree with the shuttle. I know they will be very accommodating since I think we will be taking up most of the hotel. I think people are just trying to ride-share because they are driving themselves anyways. Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:01:47PM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > All this talk of ride-sharing from the DoubleTree to FAU has > me wondering if I'm mistaken about something. > > Specifically, I had gotten the idea somewhere that the > DoubleTree was going to operate a shuttle to take YAPC conferees > to and from FAU. Is this not true? Or are people just > interested in setting up private arrangements as an alternative? > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I went to the cinema, and the prices were: Adults $5.00, children $2.50. So I said, "Give me two boys and a girl." -- Steven Wright From indy at indigostar.com Thu Jun 12 14:22:31 2003 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> I know there will be wireless internet access at FAU, I would also like to use wireless internet at the DoubleTree hotel, however at $10 per day the cost is a bit prohibitive. Even to dial out to a local ISP is 75 cents per call. Anyone else think this is a bit expensive? Has anyone figured out other cheaper alternatives? I wonder if the hotel would give us a break on the rate sinceYAPC is booking so many rooms. Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 12 14:36:06 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336E@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Isn't there a fee for the shuttle? Just helping out in case you want save that money for beer (smile). > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > People can arrange with the DoubleTree with the shuttle. I know they > will be very accommodating since I think we will be taking up most of > the hotel. I think people are just trying to ride-share because they > are driving themselves anyways. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:01:47PM -0700, Tim Maher > (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > > > All this talk of ride-sharing from the DoubleTree to FAU has > > me wondering if I'm mistaken about something. > > > > Specifically, I had gotten the idea somewhere that the > > DoubleTree was going to operate a shuttle to take YAPC conferees > > to and from FAU. Is this not true? Or are people just > > interested in setting up private arrangements as an alternative? > > > > -Tim > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > I went to the cinema, and the prices were: Adults $5.00, > children $2.50. So I said, "Give me two boys and a girl." > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 15:02:37 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> Message-ID: <20030612200237.GO24065@perlguy.com> I asked them to provide wireless to everyone who has a card of their own. I'll double check that when I get there on Sunday, but I did request it be included since there are so many of us. If you do not have your own card, then you would have to rent it. FYI.. I have yet to be to a con where the entire hotel or dorm isn't wired up by attendees. Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 03:22:31PM -0400, Indy Singh (indy@indigostar.com) said something similar to: > I know there will be wireless internet access at FAU, I would also like to use wireless internet at > the DoubleTree hotel, however at $10 per day the cost is a bit prohibitive. Even to dial out to a > local ISP is 75 cents per call. Anyone else think this is a bit expensive? Has anyone figured out > other cheaper alternatives? > > I wonder if the hotel would give us a break on the rate sinceYAPC is booking so many rooms. > > Indy Singh > IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Don't mind your make-up, you'd better make your mind up. -- Frank Zappa From indy at indigostar.com Thu Jun 12 14:41:04 2003 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <019501c3311a$9084f850$066fa8c0@singh.ca> The hotel has a free shuttle service. It operates within a 5 mile radius, which includes FAU. It seats 8 to 10. Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From mark at nolab.conman.org Thu Jun 12 14:51:31 2003 From: mark at nolab.conman.org (Mark Grosberg) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Transportation on Saturday In-Reply-To: <20030612133357.GS24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: For those who need me to pick them up at the airport arriving Saturday evening (after 6:00pm) I am available to pick people up from FLL or Tri-Rail. If you are interested please e-mail me offline. It seems that my better half (Lynn) will be helping out on Sunday runs so I'll cover Saturday. L8r, Mark G. From andrew at broscom.com Thu Jun 12 15:01:06 2003 From: andrew at broscom.com (Andrew Brosnan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> Message-ID: On 6/12/03 at 3:22 PM, indy@indigostar.com (Indy Singh) wrote: > I know there will be wireless internet access at FAU, I would also > like to use wireless internet at the DoubleTree hotel, however at $10 > per day the cost is a bit prohibitive. Even to dial out to a local > ISP is 75 cents per call. Anyone else think this is a bit expensive? > Has anyone figured out other cheaper alternatives? > This page: http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/accommodations_detail_ste.jhtml? ctyhocn=BCTYCDT says 'In Room Amenities Include ... High Speed Internet Access' Perhaps not wireless, but to me, included means no additional cost. Andrew From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 15:24:18 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation In-Reply-To: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336E@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336E@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Message-ID: <20030612202418.GP24065@perlguy.com> Oh.. you misunderstand :) I'm local so I have my own car. I was offering a ride to someone if they happen to see me leaving in the morning. Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 03:36:06PM -0400, Lee Yee, Amiel (Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com) said something similar to: > Isn't there a fee for the shuttle? Just helping out in case you want save > that money for beer (smile). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM > > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > > > People can arrange with the DoubleTree with the shuttle. I know they > > will be very accommodating since I think we will be taking up most of > > the hotel. I think people are just trying to ride-share because they > > are driving themselves anyways. > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:01:47PM -0700, Tim Maher > > (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > > > > > All this talk of ride-sharing from the DoubleTree to FAU has > > > me wondering if I'm mistaken about something. > > > > > > Specifically, I had gotten the idea somewhere that the > > > DoubleTree was going to operate a shuttle to take YAPC conferees > > > to and from FAU. Is this not true? Or are people just > > > interested in setting up private arrangements as an alternative? > > > > > > -Tim > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > I went to the cinema, and the prices were: Adults $5.00, > > children $2.50. So I said, "Give me two boys and a girl." > > -- Steven Wright > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] You think because you understand _one_ you must understand two. Because one and one make _two_. But you must also understand _and_. --Sufi Sage From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 12 15:06:42 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> Message-ID: <8665nbf4bx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Indy" == Indy Singh writes: Indy> I know there will be wireless internet access at FAU, I would Indy> also like to use wireless internet at the DoubleTree hotel, Indy> however at $10 per day the cost is a bit prohibitive. Even to Indy> dial out to a local ISP is 75 cents per call. Anyone else think Indy> this is a bit expensive? Has anyone figured out other cheaper Indy> alternatives? These are both very normal charges for your typical mid-range hotel. Indy> I wonder if the hotel would give us a break on the rate Indy> sinceYAPC is booking so many rooms. Fat chance. Both the phone and the internet are contracted services, without a lot of margin. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 12 15:22:04 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: References: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> Message-ID: <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:01:06PM -0400, Andrew Brosnan wrote: > On 6/12/03 at 3:22 PM, indy@indigostar.com (Indy Singh) wrote: > This page: > > http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/accommodations_detail_ste.jhtml? > ctyhocn=BCTYCDT > > says 'In Room Amenities Include ... High Speed Internet Access' > > Perhaps not wireless, but to me, included means no additional cost. > > Andrew They'll probably list "Instant Movies on Demand" and "Mini-Bar" in the room amenities too, but that doesn't mean they're free either (nor is the telephone service). (Note that they didn't say "included in the price of your room are: x,y,z; what they said is more like "the room comes equipped with x,y,z.) I know what I'm talking about (and so does Randal), because I spend lots of time in hotels. 8-} But if you're lucky, you'll get a free chocolate on your pillow every night, which should mollify you somewhat 8-} -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From damian at conway.org Thu Jun 12 15:26:07 2003 From: damian at conway.org (Damian Conway) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <8665nbf4bx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <8665nbf4bx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <3EE8E1DF.4010201@conway.org> > Indy> I know there will be wireless internet access at FAU, I would > Indy> also like to use wireless internet at the DoubleTree hotel, > Indy> however at $10 per day the cost is a bit prohibitive. Even to > Indy> dial out to a local ISP is 75 cents per call. Anyone else think > Indy> this is a bit expensive? Has anyone figured out other cheaper > Indy> alternatives? I'm *at* the DoubleTree already, sending this via the wireless internet, and I don't seem to have been charged for it. When you log in here, your browser first comes up with the "$9.95 per day" screen. When you click on the button you get a "Free internet access" screen. When you click on the button you get access. At no point was I asked for my room number, or for a credit card, and they certainly didn't take my MAC address when I arrived. So I don't see any way they can be charging for it, unless they're triangulating on my room by comparing return signal strengths at their various base stations ;-) I'd say their access is either always complimentary or that Kevin has worked the necessary magic five days *before* the conference even began! Damian From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 12 15:27:21 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86smqfdot2.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Brosnan writes: Andrew> http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/accommodations_detail_ste.jhtml? Andrew> ctyhocn=BCTYCDT Andrew> says 'In Room Amenities Include ... High Speed Internet Access' Andrew> Perhaps not wireless, but to me, included means no additional cost. Perhaps to you, but not to the dozens of hotels I stay at each year. It's been *rare* to see anyone offer free access. The common rate seems to be $10/day. Just another guy with 1.4 million frequent flyer miles (literally, yes, 1.4 million). -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com Thu Jun 12 15:32:55 2003 From: Amiel.LeeYee at cigna.com (Lee Yee, Amiel) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Double tree - transportation Message-ID: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336F@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> Yep, It seems I misunderstood, if there is free transporation from DTree maybe I will park there instead and take the shuttle (smile). Seems DTree will need a bigger shuttle. I am local, so I am driving up, and I have no problem taking a couple of people from DTree to FAU in the morning since I am driving a minivan. Kevin as for stuff being transported to FAU let me know, seems to me you have it under control. Later, Amiel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:13 PM > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > Oh.. you misunderstand :) I'm local so I have my own car. I was > offering a ride to someone if they happen to see me leaving in the > morning. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 03:36:06PM -0400, Lee Yee, Amiel > (Amiel.LeeYee@cigna.com) said something similar to: > > Isn't there a fee for the shuttle? Just helping out in case you want > save > > that money for beer (smile). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Meltzer [SMTP:perlguy@perlguy.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM > > > To: yapc@mail.pm.org > > > Subject: Re: [yapc] Double tree - transportation > > > > > > People can arrange with the DoubleTree with the shuttle. I know they > > > will be very accommodating since I think we will be taking up most of > > > the hotel. I think people are just trying to ride-share because they > > > are driving themselves anyways. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kevin > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:01:47PM -0700, Tim Maher > > > (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > > > > > > > All this talk of ride-sharing from the DoubleTree to FAU has > > > > me wondering if I'm mistaken about something. > > > > > > > > Specifically, I had gotten the idea somewhere that the > > > > DoubleTree was going to operate a shuttle to take YAPC conferees > > > > to and from FAU. Is this not true? Or are people just > > > > interested in setting up private arrangements as an alternative? > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > -- > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > I went to the cinema, and the prices were: Adults $5.00, > > > children $2.50. So I said, "Give me two boys and a girl." > > > -- Steven Wright > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, > please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This > e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This > information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to > whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from > your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your > compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > You think because you understand _one_ you must understand two. Because > one and one make _two_. But you must also understand _and_. > --Sufi Sage > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2003 CIGNA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3800 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20030612/dbba2b18/attachment.bin From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 15:32:00 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> "AB" == Andrew Brosnan writes: AB> http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/accommodations_detail_ste.jhtml? AB> ctyhocn=BCTYCDT AB> says 'In Room Amenities Include ... High Speed Internet Access' AB> Perhaps not wireless, but to me, included means no additional AB> cost. from what i have seen, that is never free (yet). $10/day is the going rate but you can sometimes get 3 or 4 day deals. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 12 15:33:38 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <3EE8E1DF.4010201@conway.org> References: <78ED456926C6D6118AFD00D0B774B25646336C@fxwflexg01.dental.cigna.com> <20030612120147.A10618@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612193634.GL24065@perlguy.com> <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <8665nbf4bx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <3EE8E1DF.4010201@conway.org> Message-ID: <86k7brdoil.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Damian" == Damian Conway writes: Damian> I'd say their access is either always complimentary or that Kevin has Damian> worked the necessary magic five days *before* the conference even Damian> began! Or maybe, Damian... it's just you. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 12 15:39:30 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030612133930.A11073@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0700, Tim Maher wrote: > > They'll probably list "Instant Movies on Demand" and "Mini-Bar" > in the room amenities too, but that doesn't mean they're free > either (nor is the telephone service). (Note that they didn't > say "included in the price of your room are: x,y,z; what they > said is more like "the room comes equipped with x,y,z.) > > I know what I'm talking about (and so does Randal), because I spend > lots of time in hotels. 8-} Well, according to The Damian, it appears that the wireless service is free after all. And you can believe me when I tell you, because I know what I'm talking about, "There are always exceptions" 8-} -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 15:40:27 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "TM" == Tim Maher writes: TM> But if you're lucky, you'll get a free chocolate on your pillow TM> every night, which should mollify you somewhat 8-} actually doubletree is famous for their signature cookie which they leave on pillows instead of chocolates. you can also get them by asking various staff. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From gnat at oreilly.com Thu Jun 12 16:36:56 2003 From: gnat at oreilly.com (Nathan Torkington) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local.> I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with folks for dinner. Is anything planned? Nat From ingy at ttul.org Thu Jun 12 16:47:54 2003 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org Message-ID: <20030612144754.A15829@ttul.org> Hi all. I probably should have done this earlier, but I just set up a wiki site for YAPC at: http://yapc.kwiki.org It might be more useful for organizing events than the mailing list. And it would be a great place for people to describe themselves and to put up conference pictures, etc. BTW, it has a slideshow feature that I will be using to present my talk. You are free to use it as well. See: http://yapc.kwiki.org/kwiki.cgi?KwikiSlideShow Cheers, Brian From philipphanes at hotmail.com Thu Jun 12 16:51:37 2003 From: philipphanes at hotmail.com (Philipp Hanes) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Transportation on Saturday Message-ID: I can offer similar service from West Palm Beach Airport (PBI) Saturday night (I'm supposed to be arriving at 7:26 pm... we shall see). If anyone is landing at a similar time, drop me an email and we'll arrange something (I'm staying at the dorms, so I don't actually know where I'll be sleeping Saturday night yet, but somewhere in the area no doubt). philipp >From: Mark Grosberg >Reply-To: yapc@mail.pm.org >To: yapc@mail.pm.org >Subject: [yapc] Transportation on Saturday >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:51:31 -0400 (EDT) > > >For those who need me to pick them up at the airport arriving Saturday >evening (after 6:00pm) I am available to pick people up from FLL or >Tri-Rail. If you are interested please e-mail me offline. > >It seems that my better half (Lynn) will be helping out on Sunday runs so >I'll cover Saturday. > >L8r, >Mark G. > > > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 12 17:35:21 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki updates Message-ID: I added a bunch of stuff, including a page on veg-friendly restaurants based on my research. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 12 17:59:11 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86znkmc37k.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Rolsky writes: Dave> I added a bunch of stuff, including a page on veg-friendly restaurants Dave> based on my research. Check out "AlpacaBook". Inline Image. heh. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 18:41:46 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local.> References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local.> Message-ID: <20030612234146.GR24065@perlguy.com> I don't think anything was planned. I was just going to play it by ear and find people mulling about the hotel after I check in (hopefullly by 6pm on Sunday). If anyone is going for some food, just look for me (or ring my room)! Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 03:36:56PM -0600, Nathan Torkington (gnat@oreilly.com) said something similar to: > I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with folks > for dinner. Is anything planned? > > Nat > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day because that means it's going to be up all night. -- Steven Wright From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 18:43:25 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030612234325.GT24065@perlguy.com> Actually, DoubleTree has cookies. Make sure to get cookies!! Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:01:06PM -0400, Andrew Brosnan wrote: > > On 6/12/03 at 3:22 PM, indy@indigostar.com (Indy Singh) wrote: > > This page: > > > > http://www.doubletree.com/en/dt/hotels/accommodations_detail_ste.jhtml? > > ctyhocn=BCTYCDT > > > > says 'In Room Amenities Include ... High Speed Internet Access' > > > > Perhaps not wireless, but to me, included means no additional cost. > > > > Andrew > > They'll probably list "Instant Movies on Demand" and "Mini-Bar" > in the room amenities too, but that doesn't mean they're free > either (nor is the telephone service). (Note that they didn't > say "included in the price of your room are: x,y,z; what they > said is more like "the room comes equipped with x,y,z.) > > I know what I'm talking about (and so does Randal), because I spend > lots of time in hotels. 8-} > > But if you're lucky, you'll get a free chocolate on your pillow every > night, which should mollify you somewhat 8-} > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] You are all the Buddha. -- Buddha (last words) From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 12 18:45:27 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Wireless access at DoubleTree In-Reply-To: <20030612133930.A11073@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <016f01c33117$f8f54be0$066fa8c0@singh.ca> <20030612132204.A10970@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030612133930.A11073@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030612234527.GU24065@perlguy.com> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:39:30PM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22:04PM -0700, Tim Maher wrote: > Well, according to The Damian, it appears that the wireless service > is free after all. And you can believe me when I tell you, because > I know what I'm talking about, "There are always exceptions" 8-} When I was arranging the deal with the hotel, I asked for free wireless. I don't think they will give people cards for free though. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Disciple - Who is Buddha? Zen Master - Who is asking? From gordon at visi.com Thu Jun 12 19:16:34 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030613001634.GA1831@pan> I'd love to see your restaurants list but I don't know how to access the kwiki. Can you help? On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 05:35:21PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I added a bunch of stuff, including a page on veg-friendly restaurants > based on my research. > > > -dave > > /*======================= > House Absolute Consulting > www.houseabsolute.com > =======================*/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From gordon at visi.com Thu Jun 12 19:17:52 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki updates - Never mind, just found the kwiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030613001752.GB1831@pan> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 05:35:21PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I added a bunch of stuff, including a page on veg-friendly restaurants > based on my research. > > > -dave > > /*======================= > House Absolute Consulting > www.houseabsolute.com > =======================*/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 12 19:21:07 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki updates In-Reply-To: <20030613001634.GA1831@pan> References: <20030613001634.GA1831@pan> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Gordon Pedersen wrote: > I'd love to see your restaurants list but I don't know how to access the > kwiki. Can you help? yapc.kwiki.org /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 19:32:10 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> Message-ID: >>>>> "NT" == Nathan Torkington writes: NT> I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with NT> folks for dinner. Is anything planned? i am interested in one of the sushi/japanese places mentioned already. i was planning to organize a trip there from the hotel sunday night. a couple of others expressed interest in it. here is what i know: > >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: > > MG> There is another place, called the Kyojin buffet. It's a bit more > MG> expensive, but they have more variety for non-Sushi eaters as > MG> well. The highpoint of that place is the all-you-can-eat > MG> Hibachi. :-) This place is on Powerline Road, just south of > MG> Glades. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 12 20:46:47 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030612184647.A11997@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:59:58PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Putting them up as we speak [sic]. For now, people can just see the > directory listing until I have them all up and can do something pretty > on the website: > > http://yapc.org/America/abstracts/ I can't find any link to this location from anywhere else on the Web page. Keeping these abstracts secret is not desirable! 8-} -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* > > Cheers, > Kevin > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:48:10AM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:33:55PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site > > > > before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my > > > > tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will > > > > know what it's all about. > > > > > > Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so > > > folks should be able to.. well.. print :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kevin > > > > I'm not talking about *printing* anything; I'm just saying > > it would be nice if *talk-descriptions* (as opposed to just > > talk-*titles*, in lieu of actual talk-documents) should be > > available for people to browse on the web-site (AFAIK, they're > > not there right now). But I'm not trying to make any additional > > work for you either, Kevin, I'm sure you've got enough already! > > > > Maybe some brave volunteer will come forward? > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > > > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > > > > > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > -- > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > "Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, 'What! > > > You too? I thought I was the only one!'" > > > -- C.S. Lewis > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > > > -Tim > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > I replaced the headlights in my car with strobe lights, so it > looks like I'm the only one moving. > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From haim at dimer.org Thu Jun 12 22:14:33 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> Message-ID: <20030613031432.GB3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Sounds good. Let's meet in the hotel lobby around 6:30 pm. I'm local, got a car and I can take 3 people with me. Haim * Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) wrote: > >>>>> "NT" == Nathan Torkington writes: > > NT> I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with > NT> folks for dinner. Is anything planned? > > i am interested in one of the sushi/japanese places mentioned already. i > was planning to organize a trip there from the hotel sunday night. a > couple of others expressed interest in it. here is what i know: > > > >>>>> "MG" == Mark Grosberg writes: > > > > MG> There is another place, called the Kyojin buffet. It's a bit more > > MG> expensive, but they have more variety for non-Sushi eaters as > > MG> well. The highpoint of that place is the all-you-can-eat > > MG> Hibachi. :-) This place is on Powerline Road, just south of > > MG> Glades. > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Visit http://www.dimer.org From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 23:13:49 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <20030613031432.GB3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> <20030613031432.GB3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "HD" == Haim Dimer writes: HD> Sounds good. Let's meet in the hotel lobby around 6:30 pm. I'm HD> local, got a car and I can take 3 people with me. can we make it later? i land at 5:44 and i doubt i can be there and ready at 6:30. would 7:30 be too late? i can possibly do 7pm but i would like more time to check in and settle down. and Mark Grosberg said he and gf would want to go. you can just huddle up in the lobby at 7ish and wait for me :) thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From haim at dimer.org Thu Jun 12 23:28:06 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> <20030613031432.GB3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: <20030613042805.GE3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> 7:30 is fine. In Florida, since there are so many old people we have a tendency to eat diner early :) Sincerely, Haim * Uri Guttman (uri@stemsystems.com) wrote: > >>>>> "HD" == Haim Dimer writes: > > HD> Sounds good. Let's meet in the hotel lobby around 6:30 pm. I'm > HD> local, got a car and I can take 3 people with me. > > can we make it later? i land at 5:44 and i doubt i can be there and > ready at 6:30. would 7:30 be too late? i can possibly do 7pm but i would > like more time to check in and settle down. > > and Mark Grosberg said he and gf would want to go. you can just huddle up > in the lobby at 7ish and wait for me :) > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Visit http://www.dimer.org From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 23:44:32 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner In-Reply-To: <20030613042805.GE3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> <20030613031432.GB3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> <20030613042805.GE3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: ok, we all meet in the hotel lobby at 7:30 for dinner at the Kyojin which is a sushi/hibachi place. all are welcome to join us. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From haim at dimer.org Thu Jun 12 23:55:38 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] BIG Party Monday Night! First drink is FREE!!! Message-ID: <20030613045537.GG3180@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Hi everyone, Monday night you are all invited to party at Boston's By The Beach! This is the hottest spot on Mondays in Palm Beach county!!! Live band, great atmosphere, fine people and a lot of fun!!! Not only do you get to party without paying a cover, you will also get your first drink for FREE! All you have to do is show up between 9:00pm and 9:30pm SHARP! Mention that you are from YAPC and you will get a wrist band good for one free drink. The party goes on until 2:00 am! As you know, the bars are for 21 and older so be sure to bring a picture ID. Boston's is located on A1A, 100 yards south of Atlantic Avenue in Delray Beach. From the bar you can cross the street and get your feet on the beach! It's a great location. It's a short drive from FAU, only 15 minutes. The directions are as follow: Take I-95 North for 7 miles Exit #52 Atlantic Avenue Make a right and go East for about 2 miles. Pass the bridge over the Intracoastal. The 3rd light after the bridge is A1A (you can't go any further anyway unless you have a surfing board!) Make a right on A1A, Boston's will be on your right. There is parking available on the East side of A1A. If you need help feel free to call me at 954-274-9262. We'll see you there on Monday night! Haim. Visit http://www.dimer.org From autarch at urth.org Fri Jun 13 00:16:31 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: References: <20030612003246.GG24065@perlguy.com> <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "NT" == Nathan Torkington writes: > > NT> I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with > NT> folks for dinner. Is anything planned? > > i am interested in one of the sushi/japanese places mentioned already. i > was planning to organize a trip there from the hotel sunday night. a > couple of others expressed interest in it. here is what i know: Maybe. I'll see if I can call ahead and see how veg-friendly they are. Japanese places generally aren't, but if they have a few things that's enough for one meal. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From malin at nanisky.com Fri Jun 13 02:36:15 2003 From: malin at nanisky.com (Malin Bergman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:41 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello there! Arthur (sky) and I arrive at FLL at 1.30 pm, so we'll definitely be interested in meeting up for dinner Sunday evening. We'll probably be hanging around the hotel lobby (or bar...). See you there! Malin (Nani) On fredag, jun 13, 2003, at 06:44 Europe/Stockholm, Uri Guttman wrote: > > ok, we all meet in the hotel lobby at 7:30 for dinner at the Kyojin > which is a sushi/hibachi place. > > all are welcome to join us. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- > http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and > Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- > http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From jduncan at fotango.com Fri Jun 13 03:35:15 2003 From: jduncan at fotango.com (James A. Duncan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm up for a Sunday night dinner also. In fact, if people are interested I'll probably be hanging around looking for something to do on Saturday night as well. Regards, James. On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 08:36 AM, Malin Bergman wrote: > Hello there! > Arthur (sky) and I arrive at FLL at 1.30 pm, so we'll definitely be > interested in meeting up for dinner Sunday evening. We'll probably be > hanging around the hotel lobby (or bar...). See you there! > > Malin (Nani) > > > On fredag, jun 13, 2003, at 06:44 Europe/Stockholm, Uri Guttman wrote: > >> >> ok, we all meet in the hotel lobby at 7:30 for dinner at the Kyojin >> which is a sushi/hibachi place. >> >> all are welcome to join us. >> >> uri >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- >> http://www.stemsystems.com >> --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and >> Coding- >> Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- >> http://jobs.perl.org >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc@mail.pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From perlguy at perlguy.com Fri Jun 13 08:03:08 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030612184647.A11997@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> <20030612184647.A11997@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20030613130308.GB24065@perlguy.com> I AM ONE MAN TIM, with a full inbox of questions from people, things to arrange and more than enough to do. The direct link works. Cheers, Kevin On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 06:46:47PM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:59:58PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > Putting them up as we speak [sic]. For now, people can just see the > > directory listing until I have them all up and can do something pretty > > on the website: > > > > http://yapc.org/America/abstracts/ > > I can't find any link to this location from anywhere else on the > Web page. Keeping these abstracts secret is not desirable! 8-} > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:48:10AM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:33:55PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > I probably won't be submitting any materials you can put up on the web-site > > > > > before the meeting, but I'd like you to post the proposal I submitted for my > > > > > tutorial (Perl for Shell Users and Programmers) there, so people will > > > > > know what it's all about. > > > > > > > > Ok. I'll try to get that done. Also, the computer lab has a printer so > > > > folks should be able to.. well.. print :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kevin > > > > > > I'm not talking about *printing* anything; I'm just saying > > > it would be nice if *talk-descriptions* (as opposed to just > > > talk-*titles*, in lieu of actual talk-documents) should be > > > available for people to browse on the web-site (AFAIK, they're > > > not there right now). But I'm not trying to make any additional > > > work for you either, Kevin, I'm sure you've got enough already! > > > > > > Maybe some brave volunteer will come forward? > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > > > > "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy." > > > > > > -- G.W. Bush, Redwood, CA 09/27/2000 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > > > "Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, 'What! > > > > You too? I thought I was the only one!'" > > > > -- C.S. Lewis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -Tim > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > > > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > > > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > > > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > > > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > > > *------------------------------------------------------------* > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > > I replaced the headlights in my car with strobe lights, so it > > looks like I'm the only one moving. > > -- Steven Wright > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- > > -Tim > *------------------------------------------------------------* > | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | > | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | > | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | > *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* > | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | > *------------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] "We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when it's necessary to compromise." --Larry Wall in <1991Nov13.194420.28091@netlabs.com> From ken at mathforum.org Fri Jun 13 09:38:51 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from MIA? In-Reply-To: <20030612162504.GF22714@soundwave.net> Message-ID: On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 11:25 AM, Helen Cook wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 08:45:48AM -0600, Jim Cromie wrote: >> add me to the list - im also getting in very late, ie 10pm flight into >> Ft Lauderdale Airport. >> Helen Cook, are you still inclined to share a cab ? > > Unfortunately, my flight is into Miami. > >> I didnt see anyone else answer my earlier such proposal, >> but maybe we'll get a couple more yet.. > > Does anyone else have similarly inconvenient travel plans? > It would be really helpful if there were some kind of central list (on yapc.org?) of where & when people are arriving, with brief physical descriptions. A suggested meeting place at each airport would also be handy. Then we could just look at the list and see who's expected to arrive near our time, and coordinate it offline if necessary. Think something like this could be set up? It would cut some of the list traffic. ;-) -Ken From lranen at hotmail.com Fri Jun 13 09:43:47 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner Message-ID: Mark and I will be up for sushi too. We'll stop by the hotel first. We can take 2-3 people in my car. >From: Malin Bergman >Reply-To: yapc@mail.pm.org >To: yapc@mail.pm.org >Subject: Re: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner >Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:36:15 +0200 > >Hello there! >Arthur (sky) and I arrive at FLL at 1.30 pm, so we'll definitely be >interested in meeting up for dinner Sunday evening. We'll probably be >hanging around the hotel lobby (or bar...). See you there! > >Malin (Nani) > > >On fredag, jun 13, 2003, at 06:44 Europe/Stockholm, Uri Guttman wrote: > >> >>ok, we all meet in the hotel lobby at 7:30 for dinner at the Kyojin >>which is a sushi/hibachi place. >> >>all are welcome to join us. >> >>uri >> >>-- >>Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- >>http://www.stemsystems.com >>--Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and >>Coding- >>Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- >>http://jobs.perl.org >>_______________________________________________ >>yapc mailing list >>yapc@mail.pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From ken at mathforum.org Fri Jun 13 09:48:37 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <16104.62072.512870.550395@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local.> Message-ID: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 04:36 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: > I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with folks > for dinner. Is anything planned? Count me in. I arrive at PBI at 4:02 pm from Charlotte, NC and I'll be making my way to the dorms & congregation area somehow. None of this transportation-planned-in-advance business for me [yet]. ;-) -Ken From tim at consultix-inc.com Fri Jun 13 09:51:54 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Materials Online In-Reply-To: <20030613130308.GB24065@perlguy.com> References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> <20030612184647.A11997@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030613130308.GB24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <20030613075154.A12722@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 09:03:08AM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > I AM ONE MAN TIM, with a full inbox of questions from people, things to > arrange and more than enough to do. The direct link works. > > Cheers, > Kevin I realize that; but WHAT a man! 8-} Sorry if you're feeling overburdened :-{ I'm impressed with all you've accomplished already, and I recognize your need to prioritize. I'd offer to help you out, but it's all I can do to get my presentations ready in time. In admiration of your work so far, and anticipation of a great conference, I offer this: A large, frothy Guinness, with a four-leaf clover inscribed in the head, poured slowly, in stages, the proper way. All the best, ======================================================= | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)timmaher.org | | JAWCAR ("Just Another White-Camel Award Recipient") | | SPUG Founder & Leader spug(AT)seattleperl.org | | Seattle Perl Users Group www.seattleperl.org | ======================================================= > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 06:46:47PM -0700, Tim Maher (tim@consultix-inc.com) said something similar to: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:59:58PM -0400, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > > > Putting them up as we speak [sic]. For now, people can just see the > > > directory listing until I have them all up and can do something pretty > > > on the website: > > > > > > http://yapc.org/America/abstracts/ > > > > I can't find any link to this location from anywhere else on the > > Web page. Keeping these abstracts secret is not desirable! 8-} > > > > -Tim From Lorretta.Filiault-1 at ksc.nasa.gov Fri Jun 13 10:04:13 2003 From: Lorretta.Filiault-1 at ksc.nasa.gov (Lorretta A. Filiault) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] The matrix and theatre Message-ID: <3EE9E7ED.9090903@kscems.ksc.nasa.gov> What theatre is everyone going to see the movie. Do we need to make reservations, can we bring guests (child and husband) and where is the theatre located. Thank you Lorretta A. Filiault The Bionetics Corporation BIO-5 Kennedy Space Center, FL Lorretta.Filiault-1@ksc.nasa.gov From ken at mathforum.org Fri Jun 13 10:07:46 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from MIA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Ken Williams wrote: > > It would be really helpful if there were some kind of central list (on > yapc.org?) of where & when people are arriving, with brief physical > descriptions. A suggested meeting place at each airport would also be > handy. Then we could just look at the list and see who's expected to > arrive near our time, and coordinate it offline if necessary. > Andrew Brosnan suggested offlist that we use the kwiki, which seems like a great idea. I'll get started. -Ken From prodrigues at citytravelguide.com Fri Jun 13 10:16:28 2003 From: prodrigues at citytravelguide.com (Paul R. Rodrigues) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] "Geocoding" Message-ID: <1055517388.2774.970.camel@localhost.localdomain> Does anybody know what the Geocoding class is covering? - Couldn't find an abstract on http://www.yapc.org/America/abstracts/ - Emailed the author, or at least -a- Eric Schuyler :), and have not gotten a response. Thank you, Paul Rodrigues Lead Software Engineer Bender Internet Group From David_Robins at hilton.com Fri Jun 13 10:15:30 2003 From: David_Robins at hilton.com (David Robins) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from MIA? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200306131015.30775.David_Robins@hilton.com> On Friday 13 June 2003 09:38, Ken Williams wrote: > It would be really helpful if there were some kind of central list (on > yapc.org?) of where & when people are arriving, with brief physical > descriptions. A suggested meeting place at each airport would also be > handy. Then we could just look at the list and see who's expected to > arrive near our time, and coordinate it offline if necessary. > > Think something like this could be set up? It would cut some of the > list traffic. ;-) How about on the Wiki that Ingy set up (http://yapc.kwiki.org). I've set up a page called ArrivalTimes, so if people could do as Ken suggested and add their name, when/where they're arriving, and maybe a suggested meet up spot if people know the location, those arriving at similar temporal-spatial coordinates 8-) could hook up. -- Dave Isa. 40:31 From malin at nanisky.com Fri Jun 13 10:24:38 2003 From: malin at nanisky.com (Malin Bergman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Late Sunday Arrivals - Share a Cab from MIA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <25807689-9DB3-11D7-AF48-0003939F5AD2@nanisky.com> Then I suggest you have a look at: http://yapc.kwiki.org/ /Malin :) On fredag, jun 13, 2003, at 17:07 Europe/Stockholm, Ken Williams wrote: > > On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Ken Williams wrote: >> >> It would be really helpful if there were some kind of central list >> (on yapc.org?) of where & when people are arriving, with brief >> physical descriptions. A suggested meeting place at each airport >> would also be handy. Then we could just look at the list and see >> who's expected to arrive near our time, and coordinate it offline if >> necessary. >> > > Andrew Brosnan suggested offlist that we use the kwiki, which seems > like a great idea. I'll get started. > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tco2 at cornell.edu Fri Jun 13 10:46:07 2003 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: Hi I'm scheduled to arrive at Ft Lauderdale on USairways at 6:10 pm. I will be renting a car, so I can transport probably 3 others (depending on luggage) up to boca raton. Please drop me a private note if you'd like a (non-smoking) ride. Last time I'll check my e-mail is early early sunday morning. Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From darefolarin at yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 10:51:24 2003 From: darefolarin at yahoo.com (dare folarin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030613155124.82392.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Todd, I am from the continent of Africa,Nigeria is my country and I have been recieving junk mails from you and your buddies,please,don't send or forward junk mails to my box again.If you want to be my e-mail buddie,it's okay but not forwarded messages or junk mails,trhank you and God bless. --- Todd Olson wrote: > Hi > > I'm scheduled to arrive at Ft Lauderdale on > USairways at 6:10 pm. > I will be renting a car, so I can transport probably > 3 others > (depending on luggage) up to boca raton. > > Please drop me a private note if you'd like a > (non-smoking) ride. > > Last time I'll check my e-mail is early early sunday > morning. > > Regards, > Todd Olson > Cornell University > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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From: dare folarin Subject: Re: [yapc] Arrival & transport Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Size: 2740 Url: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20030613/e847fb82/attachment.eml From TrevinoJ at gao.gov Fri Jun 13 11:09:33 2003 From: TrevinoJ at gao.gov (Juan Trevino) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night 7:30 dinner Message-ID: Thanks, see you then. >>> uri@stemsystems.com 06/13/03 12:44AM >>> ok, we all meet in the hotel lobby at 7:30 for dinner at the Kyojin which is a sushi/hibachi place. all are welcome to join us. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From schuyler at oreilly.com Fri Jun 13 11:22:54 2003 From: schuyler at oreilly.com (Schuyler Erle) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] "Geocoding" In-Reply-To: <1055517388.2774.970.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, Paul -- I'm sorry I never got the chance to get back to you. Unfortunately, I won't be attending YAPC, but you can a considerably less perl-centric version of my talk slides at: http://nocat.net/talk/etcon03/mapping-the-wireless-revolution.ppt Please excuse the Powerpointiness of the presentation -- I actually made it with OpenOffice. Thanks for your interest. I hope -- correction, I know -- y'all will have a great time. Wish I could be there. SDE On 13 Jun 2003, Paul R. Rodrigues wrote: > Does anybody know what the Geocoding class is covering? > > - Couldn't find an abstract on http://www.yapc.org/America/abstracts/ > - Emailed the author, or at least -a- Eric Schuyler :), and have not > gotten a response. > > Thank you, > > Paul Rodrigues > Lead Software Engineer > Bender Internet Group > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From tim at consultix-inc.com Fri Jun 13 11:25:08 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: References: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <20030613092508.B14313@timji.consultix-inc.com> On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 11:46:07AM -0400, Todd Olson wrote: > Hi > > I'm scheduled to arrive at Ft Lauderdale on USairways at 6:10 pm. > I will be renting a car, so I can transport probably 3 others > (depending on luggage) up to boca raton. I'll be arriving at 6:51 on Continental, at Terminal 1. Maybe you'll still be in the rental-car line by the time I get there (no "checked baggage" delays for me). I guess we should figure out which terminals people are arriving at, and try to coordinate groups for meeting up on that basis. > Please drop me a private note if you'd like a (non-smoking) ride. > > Last time I'll check my e-mail is early early sunday morning. > > Regards, > Todd Olson > Cornell University > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From jcromie at divsol.com Fri Jun 13 14:08:26 2003 From: jcromie at divsol.com (Jim Cromie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: <20030613155124.82392.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030613155124.82392.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EEA212A.7020601@divsol.com> dare folarin wrote: >Hi Todd, > I am from the continent of Africa,Nigeria is my >country and I have been recieving junk mails from you >and your buddies,please,don't send or forward junk >mails to my box again.If you want to be my e-mail >buddie,it's okay but not forwarded messages or junk >mails,trhank you and God bless. > Wow. This is irony. From maryjane at castlebranch.com Fri Jun 13 12:13:52 2003 From: maryjane at castlebranch.com (Maryjane R. Eldred) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Sunday night In-Reply-To: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> References: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <1055524432.30314.91.camel@penguin4> I am arriving at PBI at 5:45pm Sunday, from Charlotte, NC and plan on taking a shuttle to Double Tree but if any one wants to share cab or rental let me know. I would also like to join up with some people for dinner.... Maryjane Eldred IT Division Manager Castle Branch Inc. P.O. Box 1699 Wilmington, NC 28402 phone: 910-815-3880 fax: 910-815-3881 maryjane@castlebranch.com On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 10:48, Ken Williams wrote: > On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 04:36 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: > > > I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with folks > > for dinner. Is anything planned? > > Count me in. I arrive at PBI at 4:02 pm from Charlotte, NC and I'll be > making my way to the dorms & congregation area somehow. None of this > transportation-planned-in-advance business for me [yet]. ;-) > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Maryjane R. Eldred Castle Branch Inc. From tco2 at cornell.edu Fri Jun 13 13:38:11 2003 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: References: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: Hi I should have stated I'll be arriving sunday at 610 pm Regards, Todd >Hi > >I'm scheduled to arrive at Ft Lauderdale on USairways at 6:10 pm. >I will be renting a car, so I can transport probably 3 others >(depending on luggage) up to boca raton. > >Please drop me a private note if you'd like a (non-smoking) ride. > >Last time I'll check my e-mail is early early sunday morning. > >Regards, >Todd Olson >Cornell University >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ceverett at ceverett.com Fri Jun 13 17:10:23 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: Late Sunday Night Dinner, was Re: [yapc] Sunday night References: <1D77635A-9DAE-11D7-9932-003065F6D85A@mathforum.org> Message-ID: <3EEA4BCF.3040003@ceverett.com> Ken Williams wrote: > > On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 04:36 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: > >> I'm arriving late Sunday afternoon. I'd like to hook up with folks >> for dinner. Is anything planned? > > > Count me in. I arrive at PBI at 4:02 pm from Charlotte, NC and I'll be > making my way to the dorms & congregation area somehow. None of this > transportation-planned-in-advance business for me [yet]. ;-) > I doubt if I can make it before 9:15 PM or so. Or if anyone would like a late dinner, my stomach will be about ready to go forage on its own by the time I deal with getting set up in the dorm, so I won't be too far behind it. -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From ehs at pobox.com Fri Jun 13 18:18:55 2003 From: ehs at pobox.com (Ed Summers) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] dorm name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030613231855.GA25585@ink.inkdroid.org> I feel a bit daft for not remembering, saving or being able to find the name of the dorm on campus where folks are staying. Can anyone tell me where the dorm is located? //Ed From ioannis at earthlink.net Sat Jun 14 04:13:01 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] The IBM Building Message-ID: <20030614091301.GA18513@earthlink.net> FYI, While traveling northbound on I-95, between Glades Rd and Yamato Rd, dont' forget to see the famous IBM building. Thats were the first IBM PC , and the floppy disk, was manufactured in very early 80's . ( I still remember that the price for one floppy drive was $350 dollars in 1982 -- since then, my dream in life was to one day own a floppy.) The IBM building is that long building, sitting in the middle of vast acerage towards the West while driving North on I-95. Those staying at DoubleTree may as well look outside the window: it is right there at just South of Yamato. -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. Linux or FreeBSD? It's like blonds or brunettes, I like them both. From jkeen at concentric.net Sat Jun 14 06:35:42 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org References: <20030612144754.A15829@ttul.org> Message-ID: <003301c33269$1745a160$2ab80340@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ingerson" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org > Hi all. I probably should have done this earlier, but I just set up a > wiki site for YAPC at: > > http://yapc.kwiki.org > I have to say I can't figure out how to use this site; I would like to post in the arrival times section. The site allows me to type into that section, but then appears to require me to LOGIN. But I can't recall that we've set up any password login for this conference. The Kwiki help page tells me how to install a Kwiki, but I don't see anything for using this particular Kwiki. Jim Keenan From jkeen at concentric.net Sat Jun 14 06:46:18 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] dorm name References: <20030613231855.GA25585@ink.inkdroid.org> Message-ID: <005401c3326a$928ad4c0$2ab80340@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Summers" To: Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [yapc] dorm name > I feel a bit daft for not remembering, saving or being able to find the name of > the dorm on campus where folks are staying. Can anyone tell me where the dorm is > located? > Indian River http://www.fau.edu/map/bocamap1.html From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sat Jun 14 06:55:04 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org In-Reply-To: <003301c33269$1745a160$2ab80340@concentric.net> References: <20030612144754.A15829@ttul.org> <003301c33269$1745a160$2ab80340@concentric.net> Message-ID: <86n0gk50x3.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "James" == James E Keenan writes: >> Hi all. I probably should have done this earlier, but I just set up a >> wiki site for YAPC at: >> >> http://yapc.kwiki.org >> James> I have to say I can't figure out how to use this site; I would like to post James> in the arrival times section. The site allows me to type into that section, James> but then appears to require me to LOGIN. But I can't recall that we've set James> up any password login for this conference. The Kwiki help page tells me how James> to install a Kwiki, but I don't see anything for using this particular James> Kwiki. *All* pages are editable. Login just lets your record be by a name rather than by an IP address. Just hit "edit" on any page. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From jkeen at concentric.net Sat Jun 14 07:48:35 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org References: <20030612144754.A15829@ttul.org><003301c33269$1745a160$2ab80340@concentric.net> <86n0gk50x3.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <00ae01c33273$464ec0e0$2ab80340@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal L. Schwartz" To: Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc.kwiki.org > >>>>> "James" == James E Keenan writes: > > >> Hi all. I probably should have done this earlier, but I just set up a > >> wiki site for YAPC at: > >> > >> http://yapc.kwiki.org > >> > James> I have to say I can't figure out how to use this site; I would like to post > James> in the arrival times section. The site allows me to type into that section, > James> but then appears to require me to LOGIN. But I can't recall that we've set > James> up any password login for this conference. The Kwiki help page tells me how > James> to install a Kwiki, but I don't see anything for using this particular > James> Kwiki. > > *All* pages are editable. Login just lets your record be by a name > rather than by an IP address. Just hit "edit" on any page. > > -- Thanks, merlyn. I was expecting to find the "Save" button *below* the newly entered data and only now noticed that it's at the top of the page. From perlguy at perlguy.com Sat Jun 14 10:24:14 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Arrival & transport In-Reply-To: <3EEA212A.7020601@divsol.com> References: <20030613155124.82392.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> <3EEA212A.7020601@divsol.com> Message-ID: <20030614152411.GC24065@perlguy.com> Yeah, ironic indeed. I guess the Nigerians shouldn't have used the YAPC reg system to validate CC numbers :) Karma is gonna get you! Cheers, Kevin On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:08:26PM -0600, Jim Cromie (jcromie@divsol.com) said something similar to: > dare folarin wrote: > > >Hi Todd, > >I am from the continent of Africa,Nigeria is my > >country and I have been recieving junk mails from you > >and your buddies,please,don't send or forward junk > >mails to my box again.If you want to be my e-mail > >buddie,it's okay but not forwarded messages or junk > >mails,trhank you and God bless. > > > > Wow. This is irony. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] The difference between whining and advocacy is great. It took me seven years to figure that out. -- Michael J. Fox From perlguy at perlguy.com Sat Jun 14 10:27:20 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] The matrix and theatre In-Reply-To: <3EE9E7ED.9090903@kscems.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <3EE9E7ED.9090903@kscems.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20030614152719.GD24065@perlguy.com> The theater is the Muvico up the road. We have 100 tickets (since it is a 100 seat theater). Myself and Jeff will be getting them out to people in some (hopefully fun) way. Of course, with 200 people and 100 tickets.. well, you can do the math :-) Cheers, Kevin On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 11:04:13AM -0400, Lorretta A. Filiault (Lorretta.Filiault-1@ksc.nasa.gov) said something similar to: > What theatre is everyone going to see the movie. Do we need to make > reservations, can we bring guests (child and husband) and where is the > theatre located. > > Thank you > > Lorretta A. Filiault > The Bionetics Corporation > BIO-5 > Kennedy Space Center, FL > Lorretta.Filiault-1@ksc.nasa.gov > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I write the music I like. If other people like it, fine, they can go buy the albums. And if they don't like it, there's always Michael Jackson for them to listen to. -- Frank Zappa (about his music from the Yellow Shark) From perlguy at perlguy.com Sat Jun 14 10:29:15 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] "Geocoding" In-Reply-To: <1055517388.2774.970.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1055517388.2774.970.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030614152915.GE24065@perlguy.com> That talk was cancelled, and hasn't been on the online schedule for some days now (and hence, no abstract). That 20 minute spot may stay open, be replaced, or allow for the following talks to have some extra time. Cheers, Kevin On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 11:16:28AM -0400, Paul R. Rodrigues (prodrigues@citytravelguide.com) said something similar to: > Does anybody know what the Geocoding class is covering? > > - Couldn't find an abstract on http://www.yapc.org/America/abstracts/ > - Emailed the author, or at least -a- Eric Schuyler :), and have not > gotten a response. > > Thank you, > > Paul Rodrigues > Lead Software Engineer > Bender Internet Group > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Obi-Wan Kenobi, ROTJ From perlguy at perlguy.com Sat Jun 14 10:35:02 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] dorm name In-Reply-To: <20030613231855.GA25585@ink.inkdroid.org> References: <20030613231855.GA25585@ink.inkdroid.org> Message-ID: <20030614153502.GG24065@perlguy.com> Indian River Towers (http://yapc.org/America/ has a lot of info on the conference :) Cheers, Kevin On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ed Summers (ehs@pobox.com) said something similar to: > I feel a bit daft for not remembering, saving or being able to find the name of > the dorm on campus where folks are staying. Can anyone tell me where the dorm is > located? > > //Ed > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Bring the band on down behind me, boys. -- Frank Zappa From kuranga2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 14 13:53:49 2003 From: kuranga2001 at yahoo.com (Ahmed Kuranga) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] pls remove me Message-ID: <20030614185349.87110.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com> sir, pls remove me from the mailing list its urgent to discontinue sending me this mails anylonger __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From ceverett at ceverett.com Sat Jun 14 14:54:15 2003 From: ceverett at ceverett.com (Christopher L. Everett) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Snail Mail Address Message-ID: <3EEB7D67.20102@ceverett.com> Hi, I'll be expecting a rather important (to me) item sent to me while I'm at YAPC via some one-day-air service or other. What address should I have thing this sent to, so that receiving it becomes a low risk proposition? -- Christopher L. Everett Chief Technology Officer The Medical Banner Exchange Physicians Employment on the Internet From omacneil at brave.cs.uml.edu Sat Jun 14 23:54:20 2003 From: omacneil at brave.cs.uml.edu (Dan MacNeil) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Mass Sunday morning Message-ID: Two of us are going to Mass on Sunday. We're looking to go to the 10:45am Mass at St Joan of Arc, which is about 6 miles from the doubletree. I'll check mail about 10:00am before we go to see if anyone wants to come. From zaz at mitre.org Sun Jun 15 08:54:23 2003 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski,Zachary A.) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Abstracts - consolidated References: <20030611152211.GM12629@perlguy.com> <20030611105406.A6207@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611183355.GP12629@perlguy.com> <20030611114810.A6441@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> <20030612184647.A11997@timji.consultix-inc.com> <20030613130308.GB24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EEC7A8F.1F941D35@mitre.org> All, I've consolidated the abstracts from http://yapc.org/America/abstracts/ into a single file, located at: http://zak.freeshell.org/abstracts.txt Have a great one. Zak From gavin at bock.com Sun Jun 15 20:43:33 2003 From: gavin at bock.com (Gavin Estey) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] anyone at the doubletree? Message-ID: Anyone about and wants a beer? Knock on room 249 :) Gav From ioannis at earthlink.net Sun Jun 15 23:03:58 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Parking 15 (where?) Message-ID: <20030616040358.GA25093@earthlink.net> Although I am very familiar with the FAU campus, I am carefully looking at the Parking Map for lot #15, but the numbers on the map refuse to get any bigger. I need your help. Anyone knows where (roughly) where is lot #15 , do I need to take a right after the entrance from Glade Rd, or do I have to keep driving straight towards the library? Thanks -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. Linux or FreeBSD? It's like blonds or brunettes, I like them both. From andrew at addnorya.com Sun Jun 15 23:12:15 2003 From: andrew at addnorya.com (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Session schedules on yapc.kwiki.org Message-ID: The session schedule is now in a non-PDF format at http://yapc.kwiki.org/ (Does anyone know what the approximate starting times are for the talks before the first break on day three in Live Oak C & D? The PDF schedule doesn't indicate particular starting times like the pre-lunch session does. I know it won't really matter, but...) -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. From trevinoj at gao.gov Mon Jun 16 01:38:53 2003 From: trevinoj at gao.gov (Juan Trevino) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] dorms Message-ID: I had to take a late flight and I figured I would not make it to the dorms (My flight arrived at 12:15). I had made some reservations to stay at the dorms, but I am thinking of cancelling them, since I was able to get a room at the double-tree. Does anyone know whether this is possible without the costs being charged to the credit card I used? >>> andrew@addnorya.com 06/16/03 00:15 AM >>> The session schedule is now in a non-PDF format at http://yapc.kwiki.org/ (Does anyone know what the approximate starting times are for the talks before the first break on day three in Live Oak C & D? The PDF schedule doesn't indicate particular starting times like the pre-lunch session does. I know it won't really matter, but...) -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ioannis at earthlink.net Mon Jun 16 02:24:50 2003 From: ioannis at earthlink.net (ioannis@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Multiple Schedules (was: dorms) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030616072450.GA25678@earthlink.net> > >>> andrew@addnorya.com 06/16/03 00:15 AM >>> > The session schedule is now in a non-PDF format at > http://yapc.kwiki.org/ It is not a good idea to have different schedules at different places, for confusion is sure to erupt if inconsistencies appear between them; escpecially, during the days of the conference as things get re-scheduled and different schedules are updated at random frequencies. Therefore, I think it is appropriate that any deviations from the official schedule should be annotated to make clear which information is correct and what in error. (Timestamps might not prove trustworthy.) Thanks -- Ioannis Tambouras Signed pgp-key on key server. ioannis@earthlink.net, Florida. Linux or FreeBSD? It's like blonds or brunettes, I like them both. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Mon Jun 16 06:29:46 2003 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Multiple Schedules (was: dorms) In-Reply-To: <20030616072450.GA25678@earthlink.net> References: <20030616072450.GA25678@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <86he6qw991.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Ioannis" == writes: >> >>> andrew@addnorya.com 06/16/03 00:15 AM >>> >> The session schedule is now in a non-PDF format at >> http://yapc.kwiki.org/ Ioannis> It is not a good idea to have different schedules at Ioannis> different places, for confusion is sure to erupt if Ioannis> inconsistencies appear between them; escpecially, during the days of the conference Ioannis> as things get re-scheduled and different schedules are updated at random frequencies. I'd say the likelyhood of a Kwiki getting updated with correct information is much greater than the static PDFs getting updated. Already, the Kwiki has proved its worth in the past 18 hours. Saying that, I'm sure that anyone who posts schedule changes on the Kwiki will be careful to annotate how it deviates. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From acme at astray.com Mon Jun 16 07:38:40 2003 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] YAPC Photos Message-ID: <20030616123840.GA31105@kanga.astray.com> Hullo folks, We've put some photos of yapc so far (and will be updating them as the conf goes) up here: http://www.fotango.com/cgi-bin/public_gallery.cgi?category=379&key= Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ scribot.................................http://www.scribot.com/ ... Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out From chris.peters at prodigy.net Mon Jun 16 10:56:35 2003 From: chris.peters at prodigy.net (Christopher Peters) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Anyone from Atlanta Perl Mongers here? In-Reply-To: <20030616123840.GA31105@kanga.astray.com> Message-ID: <20030616155635.62794.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com> Just wondering if anyone from the Atlanta pm group is here ... if so, I am in room 415 at the Doubletree, or email me ... Chris From hassan at networkshosting.com Mon Jun 16 15:18:32 2003 From: hassan at networkshosting.com (Todd Hassan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Anyone from an ISP or hosting company? Message-ID: Hola, If anyone at the conference works for an hosting company or an ISP and is interested in going to dinner one of these nights, please email me back. -- Todd Hassan Chief Technical Officer FatCow Web Hosting http://www.fatcow.com/ 1-505-998-9000 From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Mon Jun 16 15:57:44 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] Anyone from an ISP or hosting company? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030616205744.GC6266@dumbo.pobox.com> I'd be interesting in having dinner with ISPs to discuss industry issues. I am particularly interested in hearing responses to my SPF proposal: see spf.pobox.com Maybe we could just sit together at tomorrow's dinner and call that a BOF? On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:18:32PM -0600, Todd Hassan wrote: | | If anyone at the conference works for an hosting company or an ISP and is | interested in going to dinner one of these nights, please email me back. | | -- | Todd Hassan | Chief Technical Officer | FatCow Web Hosting | http://www.fatcow.com/ | 1-505-998-9000 | _______________________________________________ | yapc mailing list | yapc@mail.pm.org | http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc | From andrew at addnorya.com Tue Jun 17 09:49:26 2003 From: andrew at addnorya.com (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF schedule Message-ID: If you've proposed a BOF on yapc.kwiki.org, how about deciding on *when*. I don't think anyone is setting aside an official BOF slot. Only MasonBOF named a time (during lunch today in the Grand Palm room). -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. From ken at mathforum.org Tue Jun 17 10:10:11 2003 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > If you've proposed a BOF on yapc.kwiki.org, how about deciding on > *when*. > I don't think anyone is setting aside an official BOF slot. Only > MasonBOF > named a time (during lunch today in the Grand Palm room). Yeah. I'm going to name a time (tomorrow-lunch) for the Module::Build BOF too. Let's put up a sign for these BOFs too, not so much to identify ourselves, but to draw in people who didn't realize there was a BOF happening. -Ken From andrew at addnorya.com Tue Jun 17 10:23:53 2003 From: andrew at addnorya.com (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:42 2004 Subject: [yapc] DayThree schedule updated Message-ID: The current session schedule for DayThree has been updated on the Kwiki based on info from Kevin. http://yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?DayThree Notable changes: Abigail will be talking about "something" at 9:00 in Live Oak D. Shane Mason's talk on Perlbox at 12:10 in Live Oak C is cancelled. The closing talk at 2:00 in the Grand Palm room will be given by Damian Conway, titled "Small Miracles". -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. From perlguy at perlguy.com Tue Jun 17 12:13:16 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Schedule Update for Friday Message-ID: <20030617171315.GG24065@perlguy.com> Mark Overmeer will be doing a talk in Live Oak C in the slot where Shane Mason was going to be. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Q: How many Zen masters does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master stays out of the way. From haim at dimer.org Tue Jun 17 12:45:56 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Anyone from an ISP or hosting company? In-Reply-To: <20030616205744.GC6266@dumbo.pobox.com>; from mengwong@dumbo.pobox.com on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 04:57:44PM -0400 References: <20030616205744.GC6266@dumbo.pobox.com> Message-ID: <20030617134555.A536@blow.home.linuxroot.org> I'd go for that. I know a few people who would be interested. Haim. * Meng Weng Wong (mengwong@dumbo.pobox.com) wrote: > I'd be interesting in having dinner with ISPs to discuss industry > issues. I am particularly interested in hearing responses to my SPF > proposal: see spf.pobox.com > > Maybe we could just sit together at tomorrow's dinner and call that a > BOF? > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:18:32PM -0600, Todd Hassan wrote: > | > | If anyone at the conference works for an hosting company or an ISP and is > | interested in going to dinner one of these nights, please email me back. From haim at dimer.org Mon Jun 16 12:31:59 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] PARTY tonight! Message-ID: <20030616133159.A1096@blow.home.linuxroot.org> Tonight you are all invited to party at Boston's on The Beach! This is the hottest spot on Mondays in Palm Beach county!!! Live band, great atmosphere, fine people and a lot of fun!!! Not only do you get to party without paying a cover, you will also get your first drink for FREE! All you have to do is show up between 9:00pm and 9:30pm SHARP! Mention that you are from YAPC and you will get a wrist band good for one free drink. The party goes on until 2:00 am! As you know, the bars are for 21 and older so be sure to bring a picture ID. The dress code is casual, shorts and sandals are OK. Boston's is located on A1A, 100 yards south of Atlantic Avenue in Delray Beach. From the bar you can cross the street and get your feet on the beach! It's a great location. It's a short drive from FAU, only 15 minutes. The driving directions are as follow: * Take Interstate 95 North * Exit #52 Atlantic Avenue * Make a right and go East for about 2 miles. * Pass the bridge over the Intracoastal. * The 3rd light after the bridge is A1A (you can't go any further anyway unless you have a surfing board!) * Make a right on A1A, Boston's will be on your right. There is parking available on the East side of A1A. The complete address is 40 S. Ocean Blvd, Delray Beach, FL 33483. The phone number is (561) 278-3364 Look for the flyers around the campus. Meeting is at 8:30 pm in the lobby of the DoubleTree. Haim http://www.dimer.org From perlguy at perlguy.com Tue Jun 17 13:38:48 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] PARTY tonight! In-Reply-To: <20030616133159.A1096@blow.home.linuxroot.org> References: <20030616133159.A1096@blow.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: <20030617183848.GJ24065@perlguy.com> Is this being sent a day late? Or is my server slow? :-) Cheers, Kevin On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:31:59PM -0400, Haim Dimer (haim@dimer.org) said something similar to: > Tonight you are all invited to party at Boston's on The Beach! This is the > hottest spot on Mondays in Palm Beach county!!! Live band, great atmosphere, > fine people and a lot of fun!!! > > Not only do you get to party without paying a cover, you will also get your > first drink for FREE! All you have to do is show up between 9:00pm and > 9:30pm SHARP! Mention that you are from YAPC and you will get a wrist band > good for one free drink. The party goes on until 2:00 am! > > As you know, the bars are for 21 and older so be sure to bring a picture ID. > The dress code is casual, shorts and sandals are OK. > > Boston's is located on A1A, 100 yards south of Atlantic Avenue in Delray > Beach. From the bar you can cross the street and get your feet on the beach! > It's a great location. > > It's a short drive from FAU, only 15 minutes. The driving directions are as > follow: > > * Take Interstate 95 North > * Exit #52 Atlantic Avenue > * Make a right and go East for about 2 miles. > * Pass the bridge over the Intracoastal. > * The 3rd light after the bridge is A1A (you can't go > any further anyway unless you have a surfing board!) > * Make a right on A1A, Boston's will be on your right. > > There is parking available on the East side of A1A. The complete address is > 40 S. Ocean Blvd, Delray Beach, FL 33483. The phone number is (561) 278-3364 > > Look for the flyers around the campus. > > Meeting is at 8:30 pm in the lobby of the DoubleTree. > > Haim > > http://www.dimer.org > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I installed a skylight in my apartment.... The people who live above me are furious! -- Steven Wright From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Tue Jun 17 14:37:57 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Anyone from an ISP or hosting company? In-Reply-To: <20030617134555.A536@blow.home.linuxroot.org> References: <20030616205744.GC6266@dumbo.pobox.com> <20030617134555.A536@blow.home.linuxroot.org> Message-ID: <20030617193757.GL6266@dumbo.pobox.com> If you'll be at the ISP BOF at Tuesday night's dinner, register at http://yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?ISPbof From ingy at ttul.org Tue Jun 17 19:33:16 2003 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] BOF schedule In-Reply-To: ; from ken@mathforum.org on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:10:11AM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20030617173316.D15757@ttul.org> On 17/06/03 11:10 -0400, Ken Williams wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > > If you've proposed a BOF on yapc.kwiki.org, how about deciding on > > *when*. > > I don't think anyone is setting aside an official BOF slot. Only > > MasonBOF > > named a time (during lunch today in the Grand Palm room). > > Yeah. I'm going to name a time (tomorrow-lunch) for the Module::Build > BOF too. I'll have a CGI::Kwiki BOF at lunch as well. Cheers, Brian > > Let's put up a sign for these BOFs too, not so much to identify > ourselves, but to draw in people who didn't realize there was a BOF > happening. > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From robindarby at mac.com Tue Jun 17 19:43:41 2003 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thursday lift to FLL In-Reply-To: <20030611195958.GA24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Is anyone else flying out via FLL on thursday? Can we share a cab/lift - was planning to use the tri-rail train type action, which mean getting to the station somehow? My flight is @ 11:00 so i guess i need to be there by 9:00/10:00. Thanks Robin... From tpg at umich.edu Tue Jun 17 20:16:02 2003 From: tpg at umich.edu (tpg@umich.edu) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thursday lift to FLL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1055898962.3eefbd52d2355@carrierpigeon.mail.umich.edu> Quoting Robin Darby : > > Is anyone else flying out via FLL on thursday? > Can we share a cab/lift - was planning to use the tri-rail train type > action, which mean getting to the station somehow? > My flight is @ 11:00 so i guess i need to be there by 9:00/10:00. Yes, I am. My flight leaves at 9:50 or so. I've also looked enough to see that the tri-rail should work well. If nothing else we can get lost together, although I'll be looking to leave a bit earlier than you. Now all we need is someone just like us with a car :-) I'm at the DoubleTree. I'll try to find you tomorrow and we can decide what might work out. From mirod at xmltwig.com Wed Jun 18 08:45:10 2003 From: mirod at xmltwig.com (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thursday lift to FLL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Robin Darby wrote: > Is anyone else flying out via FLL on thursday? > Can we share a cab/lift - was planning to use the tri-rail train type > action, which mean getting to the station somehow? > My flight is @ 11:00 so i guess i need to be there by 9:00/10:00. Hi, I am flying out of FLL on Thursday at 11:45, and I am already taking Kenneth there. I leave from the DoubleTree and pick him up at the dorms. If no one leaves earlier I can take you there, I plan to leave by 9:00. Michel Rodriguez Perl & XML http://www.xmltwig.com From lranen at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 12:51:34 2003 From: lranen at hotmail.com (Lynn Ranen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] yapc party tonight at Hugh Jorgan's Piano Bar Message-ID: hey guys -- we're organizing a party at Hugh Jorgans tonight in Delray. We're going to be meeting up there around 9 -9:30. This place is a LOT of fun and good for unwinding after 3 hard days of "conferencing". The guys are really good/funny. Not to be missed. See you there ! lynn Map/directions/more on the website http://www.hughjorgans.com DIRECTIONS: From gordon at visi.com Wed Jun 18 16:50:29 2003 From: gordon at visi.com (Gordon Pedersen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thursday lift to FLL In-Reply-To: <1055898962.3eefbd52d2355@carrierpigeon.mail.umich.edu> References: <1055898962.3eefbd52d2355@carrierpigeon.mail.umich.edu> Message-ID: <20030618215029.GA12339@pan> My flight's at 12:30PM, was planning to take Tri-Rail, but happy to contribute if someone's leaving 8:30 or later for FLL. Only hitch (maybe) is that I'm staying at the dorms. Gordon On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:16:02PM -0400, tpg@umich.edu wrote: > Quoting Robin Darby : > > > > > Is anyone else flying out via FLL on thursday? > > Can we share a cab/lift - was planning to use the tri-rail train type > > action, which mean getting to the station somehow? > > My flight is @ 11:00 so i guess i need to be there by 9:00/10:00. > > Yes, I am. My flight leaves at 9:50 or so. I've also looked enough to see that > the tri-rail should work well. If nothing else we can get lost together, > although I'll be looking to leave a bit earlier than you. Now all we need is > someone just like us with a car :-) > > I'm at the DoubleTree. I'll try to find you tomorrow and we can decide what > might work out. > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Gordon Pedersen gordon@visi.com From perlguy at perlguy.com Thu Jun 19 10:48:47 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You Message-ID: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who attended. I had a great time being your host. Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Ever notice how irons have a setting for *permanent* press? I don't get it... -- Steven Wright From dbryan at geowebhouse.com Thu Jun 19 10:31:19 2003 From: dbryan at geowebhouse.com (Derek Bryan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You References: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <01fd01c33677$d4ea7850$ecac5341@SIORLANDO.COM> OK! We had a great time being your entourage! Hope to see you and your "Perl Posse" again at something! Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Meltzer" To: Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: [yapc] Thank You > I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who attended. I had a great > time being your host. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Ever notice how irons have a setting for *permanent* press? I > don't get it... > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From robindarby at mac.com Thu Jun 19 20:28:02 2003 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You In-Reply-To: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <6F579F98-A2BE-11D7-94B5-000393C96606@mac.com> On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 08:48 am, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who attended. I had a great > time being your host. Er, no - Thank YOU! Can't wait till next year (where-ever it ends up) - everything now seems like an anticlimax. Was the best/most useful/friendliest conference I've yet been to. Thanks Robin... > > Cheers, > Kevin > From ehs at pobox.com Fri Jun 20 07:23:22 2003 From: ehs at pobox.com (Ed Summers) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] kwiki Message-ID: <20030620122322.GC25748@ink.inkdroid.org> Is yapc.kwiki.org already gone? From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Fri Jun 20 07:30:53 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom Message-ID: Before he left on a mad dash to try and catch his flight home, he passed me his sharp objects and his address so I could mail said sharp objects to him. I still have the sharp objects. For the life of me I can't find his address. Bill, if you're reading this, or if anyone knows him, please get in touch. -- Piers From andrew at addnorya.com Fri Jun 20 07:37:57 2003 From: andrew at addnorya.com (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] kwiki In-Reply-To: <20030620122322.GC25748@ink.inkdroid.org> Message-ID: It does appear to be unavailable at this time. However, all associated sites (including freepan.org) are also offline. I suspect a cat chewed through the Ethernet. Unless Brian has suddenly decided to go out of this line of work, it should be back as soon. On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ed Summers wrote: > Is yapc.kwiki.org already gone? -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Fri Jun 20 08:09:30 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] friday trip to everglades Message-ID: <20030620130930.GJ6266@dumbo.pobox.com> folks going to the everglades today (friday) should: 1) download http://www.mengwong.com/tmp/evermap2.pdf 2) meet at the dorms at approx 10am 3) remember to pick up one walkie talkie per vehicle where possible 4) proceed to whole foods at approx 10:15am to buy goodies to eat along the way: this will be lunch. 5) follow the pdf map southwards along the turnpike; life will be mch easier if you have lots of quarters 6) meet at the Coe visitor center at 1pm. if you miss the above steps 1-5 you can still rendezvous at 6. that's what i'm doing; i went ahead to miami early. From wnodom at intrasection.com Fri Jun 20 08:48:24 2003 From: wnodom at intrasection.com (Bill Odom) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004801c33732$9f45cc70$6401a8c0@wnodom01> Piers: > Before he left on a mad dash to try and catch his flight home, > he passed me his sharp objects and his address so I could mail > said sharp objects to him. Believe it or not, I made my flight. The shuttle driver told me, in his charming Jamaican accent, "Dey sen' me because dey call me da speeeeed demon." And oh sweet lord he wasn't kidding. I spent the ride hanging on for dear life as we darted in and out of rush-hour traffic, passing Corvettes and cutting off semis. We reached the airport at 6:41pm, and since (thanks to you) I didn't have to check any luggage, I was able to board my 6:50 flight just as they were closing the door. > I still have the sharp objects. > > For the life of me I can't find his address. Here you go: Bill Odom 37-A Cougar Road Glen Carbon, Illinois 62034 Thanks again for the help. Bill P.S. - I actually *have* been trying to send e-mail to you (at both bofh.org.uk and iterative-software.com), but every message has bounced. With my never-ending e-mail difficulties, I've no doubt the problem is on this side, but I just haven't had time to untangle it yet. > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-admin@mail.pm.org > [mailto:yapc-admin@mail.pm.org]On Behalf Of > Piers Cawley > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:31 AM > To: yapc > Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom > > > Before he left on a mad dash to try and catch his flight home, he > passed me his sharp objects and his address so I could mail said sharp > objects to him. > > I still have the sharp objects. > > For the life of me I can't find his address. > > Bill, if you're reading this, or if anyone knows him, please > get in touch. > > -- > Piers > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From drew at drewtaylor.com Fri Jun 20 12:50:19 2003 From: drew at drewtaylor.com (Drew Taylor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom In-Reply-To: <004801c33732$9f45cc70$6401a8c0@wnodom01> References: <004801c33732$9f45cc70$6401a8c0@wnodom01> Message-ID: <3EF3495B.7020502@drewtaylor.com> Bill Odom wrote: > > "Dey sen' me because dey call me da speeeeed demon." I would have started praying right then! :-) > We reached the airport at 6:41pm, and > since (thanks to you) I didn't have to check any luggage, I was able to > board my 6:50 flight just as they were closing the door. Wow! That's got to be a record. I don't think I've ever even made it through security in 9 minutes, much less make it to the proper gate. I'm guessing yours wasn't at the end of a terminal. -- --------------------------------------------------------- Drew Taylor * Web app development & consulting drew@drewtaylor.com * Site implementation & hosting www.drewtaylor.com * perl/mod_perl/DBI/mysql/postgres --------------------------------------------------------- From wnodom at intrasection.com Fri Jun 20 20:09:35 2003 From: wnodom at intrasection.com (Bill Odom) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom In-Reply-To: <3EF3495B.7020502@drewtaylor.com> Message-ID: <002d01c33791$c831ac30$6401a8c0@wnodom01> Drew Taylor said: > Wow! That's got to be a record. I don't think I've ever even > made it through security in 9 minutes, much less make it to the > proper gate. It's certainly a record for *me*. > I'm guessing yours wasn't at the end of a terminal. I only had to run to gate 7, so it wasn't too far. Of course, everything's relative -- what I call "running" looks a lot like "fat guy gasping for air," so it *felt* like a really long way. :) Bill From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk Sat Jun 21 06:22:31 2003 From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Seeking Bill Odom In-Reply-To: <004801c33732$9f45cc70$6401a8c0@wnodom01> (Bill Odom's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:48:24 -0500") References: <004801c33732$9f45cc70$6401a8c0@wnodom01> Message-ID: "Bill Odom" writes: > Piers: > >> Before he left on a mad dash to try and catch his flight home, >> he passed me his sharp objects and his address so I could mail >> said sharp objects to him. > > Believe it or not, I made my flight. The shuttle driver told me, in > his charming Jamaican accent, > > "Dey sen' me because dey call me da speeeeed demon." > > And oh sweet lord he wasn't kidding. I spent the ride hanging on for > dear life as we darted in and out of rush-hour traffic, passing > Corvettes and cutting off semis. We reached the airport at 6:41pm, and > since (thanks to you) I didn't have to check any luggage, I was able to > board my 6:50 flight just as they were closing the door. Yipe! Sounds like fun (for very specific values of 'fun') > >> I still have the sharp objects. >> >> For the life of me I can't find his address. > > Here you go: > > Bill Odom > 37-A Cougar Road > Glen Carbon, Illinois 62034 > > > Thanks again for the help. Any time. > P.S. - I actually *have* been trying to send e-mail to you (at both > bofh.org.uk and iterative-software.com), but every message has bounced. > With my never-ending e-mail difficulties, I've no doubt the problem is > on this side, but I just haven't had time to untangle it yet. Strange, I'm definitely receiving mail at pdcawley@bofh.org.uk (or I wouldn't have got this) -- Piers From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Sat Jun 21 13:58:34 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] saturday 3:15pm ride to FLL airport from doubletree Message-ID: <20030621185834.GA21317@dumbo.pobox.com> if anyone would like a ride from the doubletree to FLL, i will be leaving at approx 3:15pm. From yapc at jbisbee.com Sat Jun 21 14:46:00 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Meng's Rino (FRS & GPS) Message-ID: <20030621194600.GA7754@biz> Freeside is missing one of his Rinos. If you have it contact his at: mengwong@dumbo.pobox.com. -- Jeff Bisbee / yapc@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com From mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com Sat Jun 21 16:35:12 2003 From: mengwong at dumbo.pobox.com (Meng Weng Wong) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Meng's Rino (FRS & GPS) In-Reply-To: <20030621194600.GA7754@biz> References: <20030621194600.GA7754@biz> Message-ID: <20030621213512.GB21317@dumbo.pobox.com> i found it, thanks, guys --- it was hiding in a crevice in the car. There was a lot of interest in the Rino: for further information, see http://www.garmin.com/products/rino120/ I'm at FLL now enjoying the free wireless in the "E" wing. had a great time; i'll see everyone next month (OScon) or next year (yapc). On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 03:46:00PM -0400, Jeff Bisbee wrote: | | If you have it contact his at: mengwong@dumbo.pobox.com. | From perlguy at perlguy.com Sun Jun 22 11:53:16 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Your Photos Message-ID: <20030622165315.GS59572@perlguy.com> Hey folks, If people who took photos can put them online, please link to them from the Kwiki (http://yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?PicturesLinks)! Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] Deserve it (death)! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some t hat die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the wise cannot see all end. -- Gandalf (Fellowship of the Ring) From troc+yapc at pobox.com Sun Jun 22 11:32:00 2003 From: troc+yapc at pobox.com (Rocco Caputo) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Meng's Rino (FRS & GPS) In-Reply-To: <20030621213512.GB21317@dumbo.pobox.com> References: <20030621194600.GA7754@biz> <20030621213512.GB21317@dumbo.pobox.com> Message-ID: <20030622163200.GH459@eyrie.homenet> On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 05:35:12PM -0400, Meng Weng Wong wrote: > i found it, thanks, guys --- it was hiding in a crevice in the car. > > There was a lot of interest in the Rino: for further information, see > http://www.garmin.com/products/rino120/ Fantastic things. Almost as good as a laptop. The cheapest I could find them is about $218, including shipping: http://www.gpsdiscount.com/products/index.html?p=695 -- Rocco Caputo - troc@pobox.com - http://poe.perl.org/ From snowdogyyz at earthlink.net Sun Jun 22 17:27:49 2003 From: snowdogyyz at earthlink.net (Greg Barr) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You In-Reply-To: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Kevin, Thanks for your great job hosting YAPC. This was my first YAPC conference and I had a really good time. The location was great! I'm from Orlando, so I appreciated the short drive to get to the conference. I thought FAU provided good facilities for the conference. Thanks again for all of your work and the rest of SouthFlorida.pm for a great conference! Greg Barr On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who attended. I had a great > time being your host. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Ever notice how irons have a setting for *permanent* press? I > don't get it... > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From yapc at jbisbee.com Sun Jun 22 17:26:48 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Conference Feedback Message-ID: <20030622222648.GA16047@biz> I'm compiling my experiences, thoughts, and feedback for YAPC::NA::2003. I invite anyone left on the list to e-mail personally to tell me about your YAPC 2003 experience. Give me the good, bady, or the ugly and any other thoughts you have on the subject. Thank you all once again. -- Jeff Bisbee / yapc@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com From pdenis at fotango.com Mon Jun 23 03:40:25 2003 From: pdenis at fotango.com (Pierre Denis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You In-Reply-To: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Kevin, Thanks again, and thanks to Jeff and the speakers for this great conference. Pierre Denis Fotango From mirod at xmltwig.com Mon Jun 23 06:58:30 2003 From: mirod at xmltwig.com (Michel Rodriguez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Conference Feedback In-Reply-To: <20030622222648.GA16047@biz> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Jeff Bisbee wrote: > I'm compiling my experiences, thoughts, and feedback for YAPC::NA::2003. > I invite anyone left on the list to e-mail personally to tell me about > your YAPC 2003 experience. Give me the good, bady, or the ugly and any > other thoughts you have on the subject. > > Thank you all once again. Thanks a lot Jeff, you and Kevin did a great job with this conference. My report (in French) is available here: http://www.xmltwig.com/report/yapc_na_2003.html Michel Rodriguez Perl & XML http://www.xmltwig.com From michaelm at umich.edu Mon Jun 23 08:46:21 2003 From: michaelm at umich.edu (Michael McClennen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Thank You In-Reply-To: <20030619154847.GX24065@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <12FE5826-A581-11D7-97AD-000393C81FFA@umich.edu> I'd like to say thank you too, for organizing a great conference! Since I'm going to be moving to Miami in August, I look forward also to seeing you at south Florida pm. -- Michael McClennen On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who attended. I had a great > time being your host. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] > Ever notice how irons have a setting for *permanent* press? I > don't get it... > -- Steven Wright > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From zaz at mitre.org Tue Jun 24 17:06:04 2003 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski,Zachary A.) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Your Photos References: <20030622165315.GS59572@perlguy.com> Message-ID: <3EF8CB4C.BE5863B2@mitre.org> All, I compiled a small video of YAPC, available at http://zak.freeshell.org/yapc.html Basic content: Florida / Random speakers / Lighting talks / Auction / Meal Stats: Audio: Mono (where available) Time: 03:53 (MM:SS) Formats: Real Media (latest player required) ~2 mb AVI (MPEG 4 V 1 codec) 24 mb Notes: Due to poor lighting and a cheap camera, some screens just appear way to dark. If anyone requests me to remove the video, I will. Otherwise, I'll let it stay for "a while". (Aka, until I need the space. :)) FYI , I had a great time and learned a lot. Thanks to everyone who made it possible. Cheers, Zak From haim at dimer.org Tue Jun 24 20:19:40 2003 From: haim at dimer.org (Haim Dimer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Conference Feedback In-Reply-To: <20030622222648.GA16047@biz> References: <20030622222648.GA16047@biz> Message-ID: <20030625011939.GG4901@crack.home.linuxroot.org> Hi Jeff, I wrote a summary of the conference for each day, starting with Saturday. It's available on my web site at http://www.dimer.org/archives/2003/06/000048.html http://www.dimer.org/archives/2003/06/000047.html http://www.dimer.org/archives/2003/06/000046.html http://www.dimer.org/archives/2003/06/000045.html http://www.dimer.org/archives/2003/06/000043.html Sincerely, Haim * Jeff Bisbee (yapc@jbisbee.com) wrote: > I'm compiling my experiences, thoughts, and feedback for YAPC::NA::2003. > I invite anyone left on the list to e-mail personally to tell me about > your YAPC 2003 experience. Give me the good, bady, or the ugly and any > other thoughts you have on the subject. > > Thank you all once again. > > -- Jeff Bisbee / yapc@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Visit http://www.dimer.org From omacneil at brave.cs.uml.edu Tue Jun 24 20:46:28 2003 From: omacneil at brave.cs.uml.edu (Dan MacNeil) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: <3EF8CB4C.BE5863B2@mitre.org> Message-ID: I'm still amazed at how cheap and useful the conference was. Other non profit (social action/peace/justice/housing) conferences are not as cheap. --$200-$400 seems typical. I'm wondering if YAPC::NA is reproducable. How was this low cost achieved? Some stuff seems obvious. 1) Travel to FL in June is less popular. 2) No printed handouts. Other questions are: Were speakers paid? Was the bulk of the cost covered by ActiveState or other donor? How much was it to rent the college? From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 24 21:23:47 2003 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dan MacNeil wrote: > Other non profit (social action/peace/justice/housing) conferences are not > as cheap. > > --$200-$400 seems typical. YAPC does usually get some corporate sponsorship. I don't know what the amounts are, but you'll note that the auction raised $3,000, and a good chunk of that was from selling donated items. > Were speakers paid? No, speakers get in free, that's it. -dave /*======================= House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com =======================*/ From yapc at jbisbee.com Tue Jun 24 21:30:54 2003 From: yapc at jbisbee.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: References: <3EF8CB4C.BE5863B2@mitre.org> Message-ID: <20030625023054.GA17556@biz> * Dan MacNeil (omacneil@brave.cs.uml.edu) wrote: > I'm wondering if YAPC::NA is reproducable. there have be quite a few before this one > How was this low cost achieved? donations, free volunteer organizers, using university resources, etc. There should be a first ever YAPC finance report being pubilshed in the near future also. So you can get an idea of the sources of funds and where the funds were spent. (a glimpe inside) > 1) Travel to FL in June is less popular. We knew that going in but its hot everywhere (just hotter in south Florida) That's why we have the conferences indoors ;) > 2) No printed handouts. This was a decision to keep costs down. > Other questions are: > Were speakers paid? Not a penny was paid for a speaker, all volunteer. After talking with Kevin, I found out we had enough talks to go the whole week, but we didn't have the nessesary funds for food, rooms, etc. In the past dorms have been supplied for speakers, but not this year. > Was the bulk of the cost covered by ActiveState or other donor? We got some really nice donation money from O'Reilly and Active State. The details will be in the report. > How much was it to rent the college? Again in the report should clear it up for you. Everyone's feedback is very much appriciated and with every new question and point of view, I see the conference from a different angle. Dan thanks for the feedback and everyone else keep the feedback coming. I love less than positive comments the best because it lets me know what we can work on doing better next time. -- Jeff Bisbee / biz@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com From jkeen at concentric.net Tue Jun 24 21:54:05 2003 From: jkeen at concentric.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs References: Message-ID: <04b201c33ac5$0be17880$63a0ec42@concentric.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan MacNeil" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs > > I'm still amazed at how cheap and useful the conference was. > > How was this low cost achieved? > > Some stuff seems obvious. > > 2) No printed handouts. > Not quite that obvious. The last 3 years (00-02), YAPC::NA had a nice proceedings book distributed to all participants. YAPC was inexpensive in each of those years, so having printed handouts doesn't necessarily make a conference expensive. Use of academic, rather than corporate, settings is probably crucial, as is not paying the speakers. From maryjane at castlebranch.com Wed Jun 25 08:24:54 2003 From: maryjane at castlebranch.com (Maryjane R. Eldred) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1056547493.19450.59.camel@penguin4> I am also impressed with the low cost. The hotel was super and with the meals provided by YAPC, I literally had to pay back my employer! It was a great conference! Thank you Jeff and Kevin and all those fabulous speakers. Maryjane Eldred IT Division Manager Castle Branch Inc. P.O. Box 1699 Wilmington, NC 28402 phone: 910-815-3880 fax: 910-815-3881 maryjane@castlebranch.com On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 21:46, Dan MacNeil wrote: > I'm still amazed at how cheap and useful the conference was. > > Other non profit (social action/peace/justice/housing) conferences are not > as cheap. > > --$200-$400 seems typical. > > I'm wondering if YAPC::NA is reproducable. > > How was this low cost achieved? > > Some stuff seems obvious. > > 1) Travel to FL in June is less popular. > 2) No printed handouts. > > Other questions are: > > Were speakers paid? > > Was the bulk of the cost covered by ActiveState or other donor? > > How much was it to rent the college? > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Maryjane R. Eldred Castle Branch Inc. From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Jun 25 19:33:32 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tim Maher's slides on-line now Message-ID: <20030625173332.A12645@timji.consultix-inc.com> I'm slowly putting my materials on-line from the 4 talks I gave at last-week's YAPC, and should have everything up by tonight. Lightning Talk attendees might be especially interested in seeing the (gonged-out) ending of "5+ Years of SPUGgery", which looks back on SPUG's history and finally reveals the *real reason* why it's the biggest and best Perl group in the "New World". You'll find that talk, and the ones on "Shell::POSIX::Select" and "Minimal Perl for Shell People" at teachmeperl.com/slides_03.html Enjoy, -Tim *------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | CEO, JAWCAR ("Just Another White Camel Award Recipient") | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com TeachMeUnix.Com TeachMePerl.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my Book: "Minimal Perl for Shell Programmers" | *------------------------------------------------------------* From robindarby at mac.com Wed Jun 25 22:01:49 2003 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tim Maher's slides on-line now In-Reply-To: <20030625173332.A12645@timji.consultix-inc.com> References: <20030625173332.A12645@timji.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <87CF111F-A782-11D7-B3A7-000393C96606@mac.com> On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 05:33 pm, Tim Maher wrote: [snip] > You'll find that talk, and the ones on "Shell::POSIX::Select" and > "Minimal Perl for Shell People" at teachmeperl.com/slides_03.html > > Enjoy, > Oop's, sorry to be a pain, but is there a list of online resources collated somewhere. I guess I'll download them all, but I've lost all the individual links (in all the individual mails, darn Panther upgrade blatted my mailboxes). I have to justify my expenses somehow :)... Thanks Robin... > -Tim From chris at fedde.littleton.co.us Wed Jun 25 22:14:06 2003 From: chris at fedde.littleton.co.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tim Maher's slides on-line now In-Reply-To: <87CF111F-A782-11D7-B3A7-000393C96606@mac.com> Message-ID: <200306260314.h5Q3E69j044275@fedde.littleton.co.us> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:01:49 -0700 Robin Darby wrote: +------------------ | Oop's, sorry to be a pain, but is there a list of online resources | collated somewhere. I guess I'll download them all, but I've lost all | the individual links (in all the individual mails, darn Panther upgrade | blatted my mailboxes). I have to justify my expenses somehow :)... | | Thanks | Robin... +------------------ Apparently the kwiki is still up (hopefully it'll stay that way). Many links to slides have been accumulating in yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?OnlineSlides. -- Chris Fedde From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 26 00:34:52 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Tim Maher's slides on-line now In-Reply-To: <200306260314.h5Q3E69j044275@fedde.littleton.co.us> References: <200306260314.h5Q3E69j044275@fedde.littleton.co.us> Message-ID: >>>>> "CF" == Chris Fedde writes: CF> yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?OnlineSlides. i just uploaded my slides to: http://www.stemsystems.com/slides/common_sense/slides/ and update that kwiki page with that link. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From dloliger at buffalo.edu Thu Jun 26 08:47:28 2003 From: dloliger at buffalo.edu (Loliger, Donna) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] comments Message-ID: Hi Jeff - I thought the conference was really well done. The facilities at the University were outstanding. One thing I might change (since you asked!) was to have a person responsible for timing during a session (that could even be delegated to an audience member). It seems that more than a few speakers seemed to be asking the audience how much time was left in their presentation. Thanks for all your effort. It was certainly a successful conference! Donna D. Loliger University at Buffalo 215 MFAC, Ellicott Complex Buffalo, NY 14261-0016 645-3587 ext. 7020 -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Bisbee [mailto:yapc@jbisbee.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:31 PM To: yapc@mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] howto conference costs * Dan MacNeil (omacneil@brave.cs.uml.edu) wrote: > I'm wondering if YAPC::NA is reproducable. there have be quite a few before this one > How was this low cost achieved? donations, free volunteer organizers, using university resources, etc. There should be a first ever YAPC finance report being pubilshed in the near future also. So you can get an idea of the sources of funds and where the funds were spent. (a glimpe inside) > 1) Travel to FL in June is less popular. We knew that going in but its hot everywhere (just hotter in south Florida) That's why we have the conferences indoors ;) > 2) No printed handouts. This was a decision to keep costs down. > Other questions are: > Were speakers paid? Not a penny was paid for a speaker, all volunteer. After talking with Kevin, I found out we had enough talks to go the whole week, but we didn't have the nessesary funds for food, rooms, etc. In the past dorms have been supplied for speakers, but not this year. > Was the bulk of the cost covered by ActiveState or other donor? We got some really nice donation money from O'Reilly and Active State. The details will be in the report. > How much was it to rent the college? Again in the report should clear it up for you. Everyone's feedback is very much appriciated and with every new question and point of view, I see the conference from a different angle. Dan thanks for the feedback and everyone else keep the feedback coming. I love less than positive comments the best because it lets me know what we can work on doing better next time. -- Jeff Bisbee / biz@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From chris at fedde.littleton.co.us Thu Jun 26 11:26:23 2003 From: chris at fedde.littleton.co.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Conference Feedback In-Reply-To: <20030622222648.GA16047@biz> Message-ID: <200306261627.h5QGQN9j047989@fedde.littleton.co.us> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:26:48 -0400 Jeff Bisbee wrote: +------------------ | I'm compiling my experiences, thoughts, and feedback for YAPC::NA::2003. | I invite anyone left on the list to e-mail personally to tell me about | your YAPC 2003 experience. Give me the good, bady, or the ugly and any | other thoughts you have on the subject. | | Thank you all once again. | | -- Jeff Bisbee / yapc@jbisbee.com / jbisbee.com +------------------ I've added a kwiki page to help keep track of some of these comments. http://yapc.kwiki.org/index.cgi?Post -- Chris Fedde From gnat at oreilly.com Thu Jun 26 16:23:20 2003 From: gnat at oreilly.com (Nathan Torkington) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: <04b201c33ac5$0be17880$63a0ec42@concentric.net> References: <04b201c33ac5$0be17880$63a0ec42@concentric.net> Message-ID: <16123.25672.872843.611338@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local.> James E Keenan writes: > Use of academic, rather than corporate, settings is probably > crucial, as is not paying the speakers. Having seen a commercial conference up close and personal, I think the big savings for a YAPC are: * not doing it at a hotel * not paying the organizers * not paying the speakers * not paying for marketing or A/V staff The latter is surprisingly expensive. You'd have a coronary if you found out how much it cost to do the OSCON proceedings. (Admittedly, we were hamstrung by expectations: being a publishing company, O'Reilly can't just photocopy and staple!) I figure the lesson is that once you start paying for things, you can't stop, so YAPCs do things right by never paying anybody for anything :-) Nat From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 26 19:15:57 2003 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: <16123.25672.872843.611338@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> References: <04b201c33ac5$0be17880$63a0ec42@concentric.net> <16123.25672.872843.611338@Nathan-Torkingtons-Computer.local> Message-ID: >>>>> "NT" == Nathan Torkington writes: NT> I figure the lesson is that once you start paying for things, you NT> can't stop, so YAPCs do things right by never paying anybody for NT> anything :-) hey, i am not getting paid? i was lied to!! my lawyers will be converting kevin's perl to cobol in the morning! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From andrew at addnorya.com Thu Jun 26 19:46:48 2003 From: andrew at addnorya.com (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Uri Guttman wrote: > hey, i am not getting paid? i was lied to!! my lawyers will be > converting kevin's perl to cobol in the morning! Laweys that write COBOL? The mind boggles. -- Andrew B. Sweger | andrew@addnorya.com | The great thing about Addnorya | http://addnorya.com | multitasking is that P.O. Box 33147 | Phone: 206 219-7119 | several things can go Seattle, WA 98133 | Fax: 206 260-8977 | wrong at once. From chris at fedde.littleton.co.us Fri Jun 27 01:57:52 2003 From: chris at fedde.littleton.co.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200306270657.h5R6vq9j053332@fedde.littleton.co.us> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:15:57 -0400 Uri Guttman wrote: +------------------ | >>>>> "NT" == Nathan Torkington writes: | | NT> I figure the lesson is that once you start paying for things, you | NT> can't stop, so YAPCs do things right by never paying anybody for | NT> anything :-) | | hey, i am not getting paid? i was lied to!! my lawyers will be | converting kevin's perl to cobol in the morning! | | uri +------------------ You have lawyers who can do that? All mine seem to do is identify billable time and write large invoices. -- Chris Fedde From prlawrence at lehigh.edu Fri Jun 27 05:11:12 2003 From: prlawrence at lehigh.edu (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Damian's .exrc? Message-ID: <20030627051112.2252d4b1.prlawrence@lehigh.edu> Does anyone know if Damian is planning to post his super .exrc (and slides)? I chose to just "feel the power" instead of take actual notes during his talk. :) prl From ziggy at panix.com Fri Jun 27 09:59:23 2003 From: ziggy at panix.com (Adam Turoff) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: References: <3EF8CB4C.BE5863B2@mitre.org> Message-ID: <20030627145923.GC177@panix.com> On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:46:28PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: > I'm still amazed at how cheap and useful the conference was. > > Other non profit (social action/peace/justice/housing) conferences are not > as cheap. > > --$200-$400 seems typical. > > I'm wondering if YAPC::NA is reproducable. This was the fifth YAPC::NA; all of them have been remarkably similar in terms of cost and financing. Next month will be the third YAPC::Europe, which also uses a similar model. There have also been five or six German Perl Workshops, and one each of the Scandinavian Perl Weekend, YAPC::Israel and YAPC::Canada. > How was this low cost achieved? 1) Find a low cost venue (universities) 2) Pay for the basics (room rental, A/V equipment rental, coffee breaks) 3) Keep costs low (dorm space availability, proximity to participants) 4) Use unpaid volunteers (organizers, speakers) > Was the bulk of the cost covered by ActiveState or other donor? It's important to understand the cost structure. Over the years, the amount of sponsorship has varied greatly. Sometimes it has been a little more than half of the total event cost. Other times it's been a lot less. The basic model is to use registration fees to bay for the basics, and use sponsorship to cover everything else (e.g. breakfast, lunch, dinner, proceedings). Catering is more than half the overall cost, but everyone can deal with it if there's no box lunch. One goal behind organizing a YAPC event is to make it self-funded. The Perl Foundation can help by writing checks before all of the registration funds are in, but it's not there to underwrite $50,000 in conference expenses or shortfalls. Z. From ziggy at panix.com Fri Jun 27 10:05:57 2003 From: ziggy at panix.com (Adam Turoff) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030627150557.GD177@panix.com> On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:23:47PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dan MacNeil wrote: > > Were speakers paid? > > No, speakers get in free, that's it. That's the YAPC model. The Python community adopted and customized that model for PyCon DC this past spring. They took a page out of SciFi conventions: "everyone pays registration. Period." On the topic of registration, there have been a few times where we had a two tiered registration: $N for the conference, or an option to tack on a $300 donation to TPF. The idea behind that was that some companies (back in the boom times) wouldn't take a $95 conference seriously, but wouldn't hesitate to send staff to a $395 event. And every few years, Uri *begs* to be charged more to attend. I don't know why we haven't instituted an Uri Guttman rate yet. :-) Z. From perlguy at perlguy.com Fri Jun 27 10:49:18 2003 From: perlguy at perlguy.com (Kevin Meltzer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: <20030627150557.GD177@panix.com> References: <20030627150557.GD177@panix.com> Message-ID: <20030627154917.GX73882@perlguy.com> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 11:05:57AM -0400, Adam Turoff (ziggy@panix.com) said something similar to: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:23:47PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > And every few years, Uri *begs* to be charged more to attend. I don't > know why we haven't instituted an Uri Guttman rate yet. :-) Next year I can make sure there is a "Are you Uri?" checkbox on the reg form, and if it is checked it will charge an extra $300. :-) Cheers, Kevin -- [Writing CGI Applications with Perl - http://perlcgi-book.com] I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. -- Steven Wright From lisa at panix.com Fri Jun 27 14:07:40 2003 From: lisa at panix.com (Lisa Wolfisch) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] howto conference costs In-Reply-To: <20030627154917.GX73882@perlguy.com> References: <20030627150557.GD177@panix.com> <20030627154917.GX73882@perlguy.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Kevin Meltzer wrote: > Next year I can make sure there is a "Are you Uri?" checkbox on the reg > form, and if it is checked it will charge an extra $300. :-) Oh, we're going to charge by weight now? :-) -lisa From tim at consultix-inc.com Mon Jun 30 18:06:07 2003 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:39:43 2004 Subject: [yapc] Photos from Bostons's Party online Message-ID: <20030630160607.A30898@timji.consultix-inc.com> I've finally managed to put my photos from the party at "Boston's on the Beach" on my web site. 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