[Wellington-pm] IDEs round-the-room
sam at crawley.nz
Sun Jun 25 14:00:44 PDT 2017
Another vote for Eclipse + EPIC.
I don't actually use many of the "big" IDE features (e.g. debugger), but a
few of the smaller ones I find invaluable. Syntax checking is a big one
(although there can be some limitations if you have a complex library
setup), as well as making it easy to navigation through large projects. I
know vim and others *can* be set up to do this, but Eclipse does it all by
default, plus I'm used to it.
Never really had performance issues with it (on Linux).
On 26 June 2017 at 08:48, Steve Piner <Steve.Piner at signify.co.nz> wrote:
> I like Eclipse with EPIC for Perl work. Key features for me: easy reformat
> with PerlTidy, Perl::Critic annotation, and the debugger. Function
> completion is nice when it works, but it doesn't seem to work that often.
> I have seen Eclipse become unresponsive from time to time, and it is quite
> heavy on the memory. I still prefer it over the text editors I've tried
> (Atom, Code).
> On 24/06/17 11:25, Florent Mara wrote:
> After Komodo and Kate, I am now using Sublime.
> Komodo does a lot but changes regularly and one of the updates broke the
> mini-map so I moved onto Kate and never looked back.
> Kate / Sublime are 'powerful text editors' for me. Probably not too
> dissimilar to notepad++. Sublime seems to be very configurable - providing
> you have the time - and has Perl specific plugins available.
> IntelliJ is used quite a lot around me for Perl or others.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Dan Horne <dan.horne at redbone.co.nz>
>> I'm one of those rare people who prefers an IDE. At my current workplace
>> I use Notepad++, but that's because I'm not allowed to install software
>> myself, and development isn't my primary job anymore. I love Komodo and the
>> debugger. Stepping through code, setting breakpoints and inspecting
>> variables is much more preferable to the way I work than scattering print
>> statements. I have identified bugs in CPAN modules because I step through
>> all code, and not having to sprinkle print in other's code is a bonus.
>> The downsides: it's not cheap. ActiveState keeps changing the UI and this
>> throws me with each update. Once I find a way of navigating and working I
>> don't want to change. I've actually downgraded to v7 because that's the UI
>> I prefer and I see no reason to upgrade again.
>> The upsides for me, besides the debugger integration. It's
>> multi-language, multi-platform (I use Linux, Mac and Windows) and I can add
>> macros that can be invoked with keystrokes such as formatting my code with
>> Perl Tidy. It integrates with source control, can save remotely (via SSH),
>> identifies syntax errors in real time. As I said, I prefer to use an old
>> version, but there are a host of newer features in the latest version (
>> I won't include screenshots - you see them in the ActiveState site, and
>> you can download a trial from there.
>> P.S. On a side note, I used Xarka's OptiPerl 15 years ago when I was
>> working in the UK. It's Windows only, and I doubt it's been updated since
>> then. But it will have all the features you'd probably ever want, including
>> realtime syntax checking, and debugging. Plus it's only US$39 for a
>> personal licence. http://www.xarka.com/optiperl/features.html
>> On 23 June 2017 at 21:35, Peter Kelly <perlmonger at pck.co.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi mongers,
>>> Could we have a round-the-room about IDEs?
>>> But as I sit here this balmy winter night, I find myself reading through
>>> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1137488 which talks about integrated
>>> debugging in an IDE.
>>> I do my Perl coding mostly in Windows this month for bizarre reasons,
>>> such as that I can't get Linux to drive my 4K monitor on my hardware. I
>>> use Notepad++, which highlights most keywords nicely and offers variable
>>> auto-completion. But it doesn't have Perl debugger integration.
>>> I see from that comment that Eclipe is supposed to be the answer to the
>>> maiden's prayer. I haven't forgiven it yet for being a dog more than a
>>> decade ago.
>>> Padre appears to be a dead duck - there is no activity on the IRC
>>> archives, or mailing list, and it won't compile from CPAN.
>>> I note a mention of the topic from Grant in his list message of Tue, 16
>>> Jun 2009 14:27:27
>>> Would it be annoying if I asked people to share a screen-shot of their
>>> On an unrelated note, is there any easy way to localise (deep-copy) an
>>> array of hashes?
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