From florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz Thu Feb 4 18:15:09 2016 From: florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz (Florent Mara) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:15:09 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Jobs and Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <1453935975.10542.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <1453935975.10542.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: Awesome. See you all next Tuesday. I will have a lightening talk (hopefully) ready by then. I have vaguely decided to recap what software development I did last year. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Grant McLean wrote: > Hi Mongers > > Don't forget the lightning talk meeting is on February 9th (the day > after the Waitangi day holiday). Please let me know if you intend to do > a talk, even if you haven't decided what it will be about yet. > > On an unrelated note, Catalyst is hiring. In particular we are looking > for at least one Perl dev: > > https://www.catalyst.net.nz/jobs/perl-developer-new-zealand-wellington > > and also PHP devs, sysadmins and testers: > > https://www.catalyst.net.nz/jobs > > Cheers > Grant > > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grant at mclean.net.nz Thu Feb 4 20:40:45 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 17:40:45 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Jobs and Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: References: <1453935975.10542.11.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <1454647245.5973.2.camel@kereru> Great to hear you're getting organised Florent :-) I still want to hear from more people keen to participate. I'm currently still over in Geelong at Linux.conf.au so my talk preparation will start some time later this weekend - luckily we have an extra day. Cheers Grant On Fri, 2016-02-05 at 15:15 +1300, Florent Mara wrote: > Awesome. See you all next Tuesday. > I will have a lightening talk (hopefully) ready by then. > > I have vaguely decided to recap what software development I did last year. > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Grant McLean wrote: > > > Hi Mongers > > > > Don't forget the lightning talk meeting is on February 9th (the day > > after the Waitangi day holiday). Please let me know if you intend to do > > a talk, even if you haven't decided what it will be about yet. > > > > On an unrelated note, Catalyst is hiring. In particular we are looking > > for at least one Perl dev: > > > > https://www.catalyst.net.nz/jobs/perl-developer-new-zealand-wellington > > > > and also PHP devs, sysadmins and testers: > > > > https://www.catalyst.net.nz/jobs > > > > Cheers > > Grant > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wellington-pm mailing list > > Wellington-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm From grant at mclean.net.nz Fri Feb 5 03:05:58 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 00:05:58 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Junior dev role Message-ID: <1454670358.5973.5.camel@kereru> Further to my message last week, Catalyst is looking to fill a Junior role right now. So if you're enthusiastic but not experienced then you should definitely talk to us: https://catalyst.net.nz/jobs/junior-developer-wellington-new-zealand Cheers Grant From kentfredric at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 06:02:03 2016 From: kentfredric at gmail.com (Kent Fredric) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 03:02:03 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Junior dev role In-Reply-To: <1454670358.5973.5.camel@kereru> References: <1454670358.5973.5.camel@kereru> Message-ID: On 6 February 2016 at 00:05, Grant McLean wrote: > Further to my message last week, Catalyst is looking to fill a Junior > role right now. So if you're enthusiastic but not experienced then you > should definitely talk to us: >From the listing, its not 100% clear if its an on-site-only job or not. I typically assume its on-site unless otherwise stated, but I'm just not 100% sure when it comes to Catalyst. -- Kent KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNL From grant at mclean.net.nz Sat Feb 6 12:36:09 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 09:36:09 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Junior dev role In-Reply-To: References: <1454670358.5973.5.camel@kereru> Message-ID: <1454790969.5973.9.camel@kereru> On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 03:02 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 6 February 2016 at 00:05, Grant McLean wrote: > > Further to my message last week, Catalyst is looking to fill a Junior > > role right now. So if you're enthusiastic but not experienced then you > > should definitely talk to us: > > > From the listing, its not 100% clear if its an on-site-only job or not. > > I typically assume its on-site unless otherwise stated, but I'm just > not 100% sure when it comes to Catalyst. That assumption is valid for Catalyst too. We do have one or two teleworkers but it's certainly not the norm. Also I'd suggest for a junior role there are significant advantages to working in close proximity with a team. Cheers Grant From grant at mclean.net.nz Mon Feb 8 13:55:52 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:55:52 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Lightning talk meeting this evening Message-ID: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Hi Mongers Our first meeting of 2016 meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers is a Lightning Talk meeting this evening at the usual place and time: 6:00pm Tuesday 9 February 2016 Level 3, Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington http://wellington.pm.org/ I'm still keen to hear from people who are planning to do a talk, but you don't have to send me your slides in advance unless you want to - I'm sure we'll have plenty of time for swapping over laptops as required. See you there Grant From tai.paul.nz at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 19:17:13 2016 From: tai.paul.nz at gmail.com (Tai Paul) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:17:13 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Lightning talk meeting this evening In-Reply-To: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <001d01d162e8$61b19de0$2514d9a0$@co.nz> Add me to the list grant. No topic and not slides yet, but I've got 70 minutes to work it out. Tai -----Original Message----- From: Wellington-pm [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of Grant McLean Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 10:56 a.m. To: Wellington Perl Mongers Subject: [Wellington-pm] Lightning talk meeting this evening Hi Mongers Our first meeting of 2016 meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers is a Lightning Talk meeting this evening at the usual place and time: 6:00pm Tuesday 9 February 2016 Level 3, Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington http://wellington.pm.org/ I'm still keen to hear from people who are planning to do a talk, but you don't have to send me your slides in advance unless you want to - I'm sure we'll have plenty of time for swapping over laptops as required. See you there Grant _______________________________________________ Wellington-pm mailing list Wellington-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm From grant at mclean.net.nz Tue Feb 9 01:01:47 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:01:47 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! In-Reply-To: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> I thought tonight was a fun evening and I was especially pleased that a few extra talks materialised at the last minute. So thanks to everyone for coming along and participating. If you did a talk and had slides that you want to share then please email them to me. The next meeting is a mere 4 weeks away on March 8th - let's hear from speakers or people with suggestions for topics. Regards Grant From tai.paul.nz at gmail.com Tue Feb 9 10:16:36 2016 From: tai.paul.nz at gmail.com (Tai Paul) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:16:36 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! In-Reply-To: <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> Message-ID: <000901d16366$0651e760$12f5b620$@co.nz> Good morning everyone. I enjoyed the night as well and found a few interesting things to explore further. Here are the slides (with typos and dangling left brackets removed). Thanks again to Grant and Catalyst for being our hosts. Tai -----Original Message----- From: Wellington-pm [mailto:wellington-pm-bounces+tai=pplus.co.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of Grant McLean Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 10:02 p.m. To: wellington-pm at pm.org Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! I thought tonight was a fun evening and I was especially pleased that a few extra talks materialised at the last minute. So thanks to everyone for coming along and participating. If you did a talk and had slides that you want to share then please email them to me. The next meeting is a mere 4 weeks away on March 8th - let's hear from speakers or people with suggestions for topics. Regards Grant _______________________________________________ Wellington-pm mailing list Wellington-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Test-ArrayOfScalars.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 61277 bytes Desc: not available URL: From don at gamma.net.nz Tue Feb 9 13:20:53 2016 From: don at gamma.net.nz (Donovan Jones) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:20:53 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! In-Reply-To: <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> Message-ID: Thanks Grant No slides form me but here are a few links for things mentioned in my "talk": https://stedolan.github.io/jq/ awesome tool for filtering json on the command line https://github.com/ericchiang/pup a jq like utility for filtering html on the command line using css selectors https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/list_of_cloud_modules.html List of useful cloud modules that shows how ansible is about more than just configuring things that you can SSH to. http://www.ansible.com/blog/2013/11/29/ansibles-architecture-beyond-configuration-management A blog post by Michael DeHaan (the original Ansible author) about how Ansible is more and a configuration management tool, pretty much what my talk was about. On the subject of "just use grep" for html parsing. I am not entirely serious, I have done plenty of not using grep with perl and python using xpath or css selectors. My point it more that when you are scraping you are at the mercy of whoever produced the html you are interested in. This means that A, 90% of the time the semantic markup is shit so you can never target the actual thing you are after and have to target something else and then traverse the dom and B, the dom can change at any time. Even when you use the best tools (xpath or css selectors) your code will be brittle. Cheers Donovan On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Grant McLean wrote: > I thought tonight was a fun evening and I was especially pleased that a > few extra talks materialised at the last minute. So thanks to everyone > for coming along and participating. > > If you did a talk and had slides that you want to share then please > email them to me. > > The next meeting is a mere 4 weeks away on March 8th - let's hear from > speakers or people with suggestions for topics. > > Regards > Grant > > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm From grant at mclean.net.nz Tue Feb 9 13:50:10 2016 From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:50:10 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! In-Reply-To: References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> Message-ID: <1455054610.4285.13.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:20 +1300, Donovan Jones wrote: > On the subject of "just use grep" for html parsing. I am not entirely > serious, I have done plenty of not using grep with perl and python > using xpath or css selectors. My point it more that when you are > scraping you are at the mercy of whoever produced the html you are > interested in. This means that A, 90% of the time the semantic markup > is shit so you can never target the actual thing you are after One related use case where things aren't quite so bad is when you're writing regression tests for your own system. Ideally in that case you should be able to add the necessary classes/IDs to make writing tests easy and the result should not be too brittle. In this case, I'd definitely recommend CSS selectors / XPath. Cheers Grant From florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz Tue Feb 9 17:55:21 2016 From: florent.mara at nzregen.co.nz (Florent Mara) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:55:21 +1300 Subject: [Wellington-pm] Thank you everyone! In-Reply-To: <1455054610.4285.13.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> References: <1454968552.4285.6.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> <1455008507.2348.4.camel@kereru> <1455054610.4285.13.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz> Message-ID: As it turns out, I am using my first immutable data set today. I blame Martin for it! :-) ... but won't be using grep or Xpaths today. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Grant McLean wrote: > On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 10:20 +1300, Donovan Jones wrote: > > On the subject of "just use grep" for html parsing. I am not entirely > > serious, I have done plenty of not using grep with perl and python > > using xpath or css selectors. My point it more that when you are > > scraping you are at the mercy of whoever produced the html you are > > interested in. This means that A, 90% of the time the semantic markup > > is shit so you can never target the actual thing you are after > > One related use case where things aren't quite so bad is when you're > writing regression tests for your own system. Ideally in that case you > should be able to add the necessary classes/IDs to make writing tests > easy and the result should not be too brittle. In this case, I'd > definitely recommend CSS selectors / XPath. > > Cheers > Grant > > _______________________________________________ > Wellington-pm mailing list > Wellington-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/wellington-pm > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: