From enkidu at cliffp.com  Wed Sep  5 14:14:46 2012
From: enkidu at cliffp.com (Cliffp)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:14:46 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Packages and CPAN
Message-ID: <5047C0C6.4040406@cliffp.com>

I always use Debian packages (actually Ubuntu packages) where I can, but 
I'm looking at installing something from CPAN.

Does CPAN play with Perl Debian packages in a friendly way? Or will I 
hit issues when applying patches? Will CPAN force updates to existing 
Debian packages thereby confusing the Debian package manager?

Cheers,

Cliff

From martyn at dollyfish.net.nz  Wed Sep  5 14:16:43 2012
From: martyn at dollyfish.net.nz (Martyn Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:16:43 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Packages and CPAN
In-Reply-To: <5047C0C6.4040406@cliffp.com>
References: <5047C0C6.4040406@cliffp.com>
Message-ID: <CALFNpnVjSO-=eJQchgw1QXhALVB77A3Yo6gaonvWm1Uy3MhRtw@mail.gmail.com>

If you want to generally play with Debian packages, I recommend using
dh-make-perl

It will build a Debian package from a CPAN module for you, then you just
treat it like any other Debian pacakge.

--
Martyn

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Cliffp <enkidu at cliffp.com> wrote:

> I always use Debian packages (actually Ubuntu packages) where I can, but
> I'm looking at installing something from CPAN.
>
> Does CPAN play with Perl Debian packages in a friendly way? Or will I hit
> issues when applying patches? Will CPAN force updates to existing Debian
> packages thereby confusing the Debian package manager?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
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From enkidu at cliffp.com  Wed Sep  5 14:24:24 2012
From: enkidu at cliffp.com (Cliffp)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:24 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Packages and CPAN
In-Reply-To: <CALFNpnVjSO-=eJQchgw1QXhALVB77A3Yo6gaonvWm1Uy3MhRtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5047C0C6.4040406@cliffp.com>
	<CALFNpnVjSO-=eJQchgw1QXhALVB77A3Yo6gaonvWm1Uy3MhRtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5047C308.4090406@cliffp.com>

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Cheers,

Cliff

On 06/09/12 09:16, Martyn Smith wrote:
> If you want to generally play with Debian packages, I recommend using
> dh-make-perl
>
> It will build a Debian package from a CPAN module for you, then you just
> treat it like any other Debian pacakge.
>
> --
> Martyn
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Cliffp <enkidu at cliffp.com
> <mailto:enkidu at cliffp.com>> wrote:
>
>     I always use Debian packages (actually Ubuntu packages) where I can,
>     but I'm looking at installing something from CPAN.
>
>     Does CPAN play with Perl Debian packages in a friendly way? Or will
>     I hit issues when applying patches? Will CPAN force updates to
>     existing Debian packages thereby confusing the Debian package manager?
>

From grant at mclean.net.nz  Thu Sep  6 15:59:28 2012
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:59:28 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Meeting next Tuesday
Message-ID: <1346972368.1401.12.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

Hi Mongers

The September meeting of Wellington Perl Mongers is on next Tuesday
(the 11th).  Martyn Smith has kindly responded to my call for speakers
and will talk about what Perl folk could learn from Python folk and vice
versa.

That still leaves us with room for another speaker - you could be that
speaker!

I could volunteer to talk about my recent experiences using Dancer, but
do we really, honestly need yet another talk about yet another web
development framework?

We could do better.

*You* could do better.

Go on, be awesome. Volunteer!

Cheers
Grant


From grant at mclean.net.nz  Tue Sep 11 14:15:32 2012
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:15:32 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Roundup of last night's meeting
Message-ID: <1347398132.11234.10.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>

Hi all

Thanks to everyone involved in last night's meeting.  I appreciated the
usual robust debate that accompanied the talks and learned a thing or
two.  Thanks Martyn for your talk.  Slides are up on the web site now:

  http://wellington.pm.org/archive/

The next meeting is in 4 weeks on October 9th - I'm very keen to hear
from anyone who would like to speak.

Cheers
Grant


From olly at survex.com  Tue Sep 11 14:26:53 2012
From: olly at survex.com (Olly Betts)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:26:53 +0100
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Roundup of last night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <1347398132.11234.10.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
References: <1347398132.11234.10.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20120911212653.GG30450@survex.com>

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:15:32AM +1200, Grant McLean wrote:
> Thanks to everyone involved in last night's meeting.  I appreciated the
> usual robust debate that accompanied the talks and learned a thing or
> two.  Thanks Martyn for your talk.  Slides are up on the web site now:
> 
>   http://wellington.pm.org/archive/

The environmental variable I mentioned in Martyn's talk to suppress
Python's generation of .pyc and .pyo is PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE:

http://docs.python.org/using/cmdline.html#environment-variables

Cheers,
    Olly

From andychilton at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 14:31:30 2012
From: andychilton at gmail.com (Andrew Chilton)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:31:30 +1200
Subject: [Wellington-pm] Roundup of last night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <20120911212653.GG30450@survex.com>
References: <1347398132.11234.10.camel@putnam.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz>
	<20120911212653.GG30450@survex.com>
Message-ID: <CAFmfuxHDpU261gCsptuAvVyhs+7pAZHnj-c-Bc4K=kAgunSKRw@mail.gmail.com>

On 12 September 2012 09:26, Olly Betts <olly at survex.com> wrote:
> The environmental variable I mentioned in Martyn's talk to suppress
> Python's generation of .pyc and .pyo is PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE:

AH_AH_PYTHON_STOP_WRITING_FILES_I_DONT_WANT=1

Wait, no underscores.

AHAHPYTHONSTOPWRITINGFILESIDONTWANT=1

That is all.

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
contact: Andrew Chilton
website: http://www.chilts.org/blog/

From grant at mclean.net.nz  Sun Sep 30 16:55:03 2012
From: grant at mclean.net.nz (Grant McLean)
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:55:03 +1300
Subject: [Wellington-pm] NZ Open Source Awards
Message-ID: <1349049303.24198.19.camel@kereru>

If you're one of those people who always leaves things until the last
minute, then pleased be advised - that time is officially here!

If you know of anyone doing noteworthy things with Open Source
(including yourself) then nominate them for a New Zealand Open Source
Award:

  http://www.nzosa.org.nz/

Don't worry too much about categories etc - the judges can sort all that
out.  Just get the nominations in.

Cheers
Grant