From domm at cpan.org Tue Feb 1 11:21:31 2011 From: domm at cpan.org (Thomas Klausner) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:21:31 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> Message-ID: <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Hi! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 04:30:54PM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Now we need to find a location... What about Shabu: http://tupalo.com/de/wien/a-bar-shabu Though I doubt they have a non-smoking-area, but as they are a "contemporary.lik?rstube und urban.heuriger", they do serve wine. Tara, if you tell uswhere aprox you are staying, we can find a nice location in the vincinity. Oh, and what time would you prefere? ~19:00 (so we can eat), or after dinner (~20:30) ? -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/} From domm at cpan.org Tue Feb 1 11:23:21 2011 From: domm at cpan.org (Thomas Klausner) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:23:21 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?utf-8?q?Themen_f=C3=BCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> Message-ID: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Hi! Nochmal ein kleiner Versuch, eine Uebersicht ueber die pot. Teilnehmer_innen zu bekommen. Weil wenn niemand (fuer Werte von kleiner gleich 4 = niemand) kommt, dann komm ich auch nicht (hatte noch einen Alternativen Familienevent, dem ich aber mal abgesagt habe) also bitte: Zusagen!! -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/} From hanekomu at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:15:26 2011 From: hanekomu at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_Gr=FCnauer?=) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:15:26 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <06FBC40D-3268-4DCA-8734-4D395A04B7E5@gmail.com> On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: >> Now we need to find a location... > > What about Shabu: http://tupalo.com/de/wien/a-bar-shabu So long as it's not an Irish pub, a Centimeter or the Tin-tan (nothing specific against the latter, just a change would be nice.) What about somewhere around the Spittelberg? There's bound to be a place that has both a wine and beer selection as well as decent food. Marcel From hanekomu at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:15:51 2011 From: hanekomu at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_Gr=FCnauer?=) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:15:51 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <47FA93BE-F0A7-4DC6-BB59-A213198C2251@gmail.com> On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Nochmal ein kleiner Versuch, eine Uebersicht ueber die pot. > Teilnehmer_innen zu bekommen. Weil wenn niemand (fuer Werte von kleiner > gleich 4 = niemand) kommt, dann komm ich auch nicht (hatte noch einen > Alternativen Familienevent, dem ich aber mal abgesagt habe) > > also bitte: Zusagen!! Ich sage zu. Marcel From rho at devc.at Tue Feb 1 12:35:30 2011 From: rho at devc.at (Robert Barta) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:35:30 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <20110201203530.GD13441@odman.int.devc.at> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 08:23:21PM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Nochmal ein kleiner Versuch, eine Uebersicht ueber die pot. > Teilnehmer_innen zu bekommen. Ich waere diesmal dabei (MetaLab, right?) \rho From hjp-vienna-pm-list at hjp.at Tue Feb 1 13:03:30 2011 From: hjp-vienna-pm-list at hjp.at (Peter J. Holzer) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:03:30 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <20110201210330.GA29392@hjp.at> On 2011-02-01 20:23:21 +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Nochmal ein kleiner Versuch, eine Uebersicht ueber die pot. > Teilnehmer_innen zu bekommen. Weil wenn niemand (fuer Werte von kleiner > gleich 4 = niemand) kommt, dann komm ich auch nicht (hatte noch einen > Alternativen Familienevent, dem ich aber mal abgesagt habe) > > also bitte: Zusagen!! Ich sage zu. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer | Web 2.0 k?nnte man also auch ?bersetzen als |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | "Netz der kleinen Geister". | | | hjp at hjp.at | __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Oliver Cromm in desd -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at Tue Feb 1 13:18:36 2011 From: michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at (=?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBLcsO2bGw=?=) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:18:36 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?utf-8?q?Themen_f=C3=BCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <4D4878AC.5060003@uibk.ac.at> On 01.02.2011 20:23, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > Nochmal ein kleiner Versuch, eine Uebersicht ueber die pot. > Teilnehmer_innen zu bekommen. Weil wenn niemand (fuer Werte von kleiner > gleich 4 = niemand) kommt, dann komm ich auch nicht (hatte noch einen > Alternativen Familienevent, dem ich aber mal abgesagt habe) > > also bitte: Zusagen!! sage zu lg, michael -- 063A F25E B064 A98F A479 1690 78CD D023 5E2A 6688 http://zis.uibk.ac.at/.m/uibk.ac.at_pgp_pubkey.asc From tla at mit.edu Tue Feb 1 13:57:12 2011 From: tla at mit.edu (Tara Andrews) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:57:12 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Tara, if you tell uswhere aprox you are staying, we can find a nice > location in the vincinity. Oh, and what time would you prefere? > ~19:00 (so we can eat), or after dinner (~20:30) ? I'm staying at the Hotel Alpha in Josefstadt. Eating sounds good, especially since I'll have Mike and Sophie along, and I suspect places that serve food are also places that tolerate babies better. I am not too picky about my wine, I just want to make sure there's something other than beer available. Best, -tara From hanekomu at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 14:27:11 2011 From: hanekomu at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_Gr=FCnauer?=) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:27:11 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Tara Andrews wrote: > I'm staying at the Hotel Alpha in Josefstadt. Eating sounds good, > especially since I'll have Mike and Sophie along, and I suspect places > that serve food are also places that tolerate babies better. I am not > too picky about my wine, I just want to make sure there's something > other than beer available. There's a nice Italian restaurant in this district: Il Sestante, in Piaristengasse, just opposite the scenic Piaristenkirche. It's about five minutes' walk from your hotel. http://www.sestante.at/ I can recommend it. Seems to have a good selection of wine and beers as well. Marcel From hanekomu at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 14:27:51 2011 From: hanekomu at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_Gr=FCnauer?=) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:27:51 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <0A98CE27-49A6-4E0B-BE53-4115EBFDAFFF@gmail.com> On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Tara Andrews wrote: > I'm staying at the Hotel Alpha in Josefstadt. Eating sounds good, > especially since I'll have Mike and Sophie along, and I suspect places > that serve food are also places that tolerate babies better. I am not > too picky about my wine, I just want to make sure there's something > other than beer available. There's a nice Italian restaurant in this district: Il Sestante, in Piaristengasse, just opposite the scenic Piaristenkirche. It's about five minutes' walk from your hotel. http://www.sestante.at/ I can recommend it. Seems to have a good selection of wine and beers as well. Marcel From domm at cpan.org Wed Feb 2 00:12:56 2011 From: domm at cpan.org (Thomas Klausner) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:12:56 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <20110202081256.GA22099@dedomm.validad.net> Hi! On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 11:27:11PM +0100, Marcel Gr?nauer wrote: > On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Tara Andrews wrote: > > > I'm staying at the Hotel Alpha in Josefstadt. Eating sounds good, > > especially since I'll have Mike and Sophie along, and I suspect places > > that serve food are also places that tolerate babies better. I am not > > too picky about my wine, I just want to make sure there's something > > other than beer available. > > There's a nice Italian restaurant in this district: Il Sestante, > in Piaristengasse, just opposite the scenic Piaristenkirche. > It's about five minutes' walk from your hotel. I've set up a doodle poll for the location Marcel suggested: http://doodle.com/k487cvtmhpgn7hg4 -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/} From jozef at kutej.net Wed Feb 2 04:10:46 2011 From: jozef at kutej.net (Jozef Kutej) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:10:46 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <4D4949C6.30901@kutej.net> On 2011-02-01 20:23, Thomas Klausner wrote: > also bitte: Zusagen!! Ich sage zu. Jozef From info at peter.st Wed Feb 2 05:13:00 2011 From: info at peter.st (Peter Stoehr) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:13:00 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <4D49585C.6070709@peter.st> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 2011-02-01 20:23, schrieb Thomas Klausner: > also bitte: Zusagen!! *zusag* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNSVhXAAoJEBrcwcL8Z//STL8P/2mgGVjxSf7yGxZoTkf/x+Q3 9AYPrRuzJq+7qQuNXFJN0NJIWFxrgDlquVC1Zu23pO/Tr3t6IhV774O6wHSCnIMz uJBNjf83iB5bRmx19vfeTXrHo0z4dMURtR+PjBaqrIyFxtWR6REOixY3dy2sYGmv V9TCVnjeqPtG7RG90Y9Lan0UmxFEYwWBIu+yQO9NZkX9dDkHOqIKE0Z2/lUmRJLN 9c6Tsfnaudw0q3bjZSFWl+c16gi4KkUJ/RNWuWbBsIuLf5YxOIPoxK9NnDN6k8jc Wl5PqadOIglQhG2FtZqDYuKv+IMdRnswOMj/wCEz8pv5KlEHZPkABfoKZS0EYotK r0FKf0Vq2YAejEu3QJoEAhtda+Lf1UUo9Efmf5WzCovHY4z3Y+aEbWAoN8YUr7Gw C3bF0OsonjAb+1DiFG4bF0cGVyLQAPocSvlrCeCKtLxeuIpC1SJ0f2rHISJ0qkEQ sLyprgEMX+0USuJZYnlpbbqA4jCCOoCaUilqwb6cq8LFLI19NAC+fKlgzMl9q+VH s/bXY/RQ8QkP9topv8erc4udw4343kpIqQ7ToIaGASKWzCAG6/QN3jQoxFNlwNIp Ts5J3NAwpbH2TOHTiYCpVlg33/yyRrod1Nu+tgCFlKsXYpXYvl5DiiPCL+i3YonR cJwngMk5QxQB3N7LKJVJ =jRre -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dada at perl.it Thu Feb 3 00:09:03 2011 From: dada at perl.it (Aldo Calpini) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 09:09:03 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Themen_f=FCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> Message-ID: <4D4A629F.7010904@perl.it> On 01.02.2011 20:23, Thomas Klausner wrote: > also bitte: Zusagen!! Ich sage auch zu, aber mit etwa Versp?tung (~20:30). Also nur zum Trinken :-) cheers, Aldo From alex.hartmaier at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 00:59:09 2011 From: alex.hartmaier at gmail.com (Alexander Hartmaier) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:59:09 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?utf-8?q?Themen_f=C3=BCr_2011-02-03?= In-Reply-To: <4D4A629F.7010904@perl.it> References: <201101201946.39410.daxim@cpan.org> <20110201192321.GE415@xps1330.o.factline.com> <4D4A629F.7010904@perl.it> Message-ID: Werd auch vorbeischauen, heute schein ich ja nicht der einzige zu sein der kommt. LG Alex 2011/2/3 Aldo Calpini > On 01.02.2011 20:23, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > also bitte: Zusagen!! > > Ich sage auch zu, aber mit etwa Versp?tung (~20:30). Also nur zum Trinken > :-) > > cheers, > Aldo > > > _______________________________________________ > Vienna-pm mailing list > Vienna-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/vienna-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We were also visited by one of the organizers of the Grazer Linux Tage. http://www.linuxtage.at/ He told me they would be happy to get some Perl related talk proposal at their event in April. The CFP just went out a few days ago and the dead-line is 1st March. http://www.linuxtage.at/call-for-lectures/ They also provide space for stands and they would be happy to see a Perl stand there I looked at the web site but I could not find any information on how to ask for a stand space. I think it would be cool to have a few Perl related talks there and a Perl booth where you can get more people interested in using Modern Perl or where you could hook up Perl developers to the community. regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? http://szabgab.com/ Perl Ecosystem Group ? ? ? http://perl-ecosystem.org/ From tla at mit.edu Sat Feb 12 07:33:34 2011 From: tla at mit.edu (Tara Andrews) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:33:34 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: <20110202081256.GA22099@dedomm.validad.net> References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> <20110202081256.GA22099@dedomm.validad.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Thomas Klausner wrote: > I've set up a doodle poll for the location Marcel suggested: > > http://doodle.com/k487cvtmhpgn7hg4 Judging from the poll it seems that the 15th is ever so slightly better than the 17th (though it's mostly a toss-up), and is probably better for me too, but domm and elco don't agree on a starting time. :) Should we split the difference, say 6:45, and save a seat for domm? Best, -tara From hanekomu at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 14:36:16 2011 From: hanekomu at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marcel_Gr=FCnauer?=) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:36:16 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> <20110202081256.GA22099@dedomm.validad.net> Message-ID: On 12 February 2011 16:33, Tara Andrews wrote: > Judging from the poll it seems that the 15th is ever so slightly > better than the 17th (though it's mostly a toss-up), and is probably > better for me too, but domm and elco don't agree on a starting time. > :) ?Should we split the difference, say 6:45, and save a seat for > domm? I'll try to be there by 6:30, so if others would like to do the same then when domm arrives around 7:00, I'm sure we'll still be sober enough to entertain a most agreeable discussion. Though if it should come to pass that I remain on my own until at most 6:45, there shall be no untoward feelings on this matter either. :) Marcel From domm at cpan.org Mon Feb 14 01:55:56 2011 From: domm at cpan.org (Thomas Klausner) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:55:56 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] emergency social? In-Reply-To: References: <20110131153054.GG6213@dedomm.validad.net> <20110201192131.GD415@xps1330.o.factline.com> <20110202081256.GA22099@dedomm.validad.net> Message-ID: <20110214095556.GK22099@dedomm.validad.net> Hi! On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 04:33:34PM +0100, Tara Andrews wrote: > > http://doodle.com/k487cvtmhpgn7hg4 > > Judging from the poll it seems that the 15th is ever so slightly > better than the 17th (though it's mostly a toss-up), and is probably > better for me too, but domm and elco don't agree on a starting time. > :) Should we split the difference, say 6:45, and save a seat for > domm? Here's the final result: Tue, 15th Feb (tomorrow!) 18:30 Il Sestante, Piaristengasse http://www.sestante.at/ pepl will book a table for 8 (if anybody who didn't vote on doodle plans to come, please notify pepl (Josef, ich mein dich :-) ) see you tomorrow domm PS: I'll probably arrive a bit late, just start without waiting for me.. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/} From daxim at cpan.org Thu Feb 24 11:25:12 2011 From: daxim at cpan.org (Lars =?utf-8?b?RMmq4bSH4bSE4bSL4bSP4bShIOi/quaLieaWrw==?=) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:25:12 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] =?utf-8?q?Themen_f=C3=BCr_2011-03-03?= Message-ID: <201102242025.20406.daxim@cpan.org> * koki: gitolite in der Praxis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From domm at cpan.org Fri Feb 25 13:50:23 2011 From: domm at cpan.org (Thomas Klausner) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:50:23 +0100 Subject: [Vienna-pm] Fwd: The SDL Perl Game Contest! Message-ID: <20110225215023.GV3510@xps1330.o.factline.com> ----- Forwarded message from breno ----- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:02:28 -0300 From: breno To: sdl-devel at perl.org Subject: The SDL Perl Game Contest! Everyone know that by far the Coolest Game Ever? is the one *you* write, from that silly idea you had the other day to a playable game you and your friends can enjoy. This march, the SDL Perl team is going to help you take that project out of your dusty drawer of "TODO"s and turn it into a reality, with the "SDL Perl Game Contest!" The rules are simple, and much like the Perl Ironman contest: ? ? ?"One game per week. Every week of march." This means by the end of march you'll have not one, but FOUR games to show for. How cool is that?! In fact, you can even make your weekly game the subject of your Ironman posts this month, and take out two birds with one stone (hmm... more game ideas)! So this monday (feb. 28), start writing your game! You have until the following monday to make it playable ("complete") and start all over again with a brand new game for the next week. ** But what if I miss a deadline? What if I can't start this monday? It doesn't really matter - just join the party and have some fun! Even if you only get to do one game, it's still a great opportunity to improve your skills and learn a bit about game design and development. If you need any assistance writing your game, from ideas to code, WE WILL HELP! Just send an email to the SDL Perl mailing list with your questions (you know, this one) or, better yet, join us live in #sdl over at irc.perl.org and we'll be more than happy to assist you and try your game out. If you never used irc before, please keep in mind people might be busy or in different timezones than you, so you may get instant responses or have to wait a few of hours before you get a reply. Be patient! It can be a game about anything. Just make sure it's doable in a week. Some games take years to be complete, but you might be surprised at how much you can accomplish in just a few hours with SDL Perl :) Oh, there's one extra rule, actually, and that's mandatory - HAVE FUN!! :) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}