From Peter at PSDT.com Wed May 9 15:07:27 2007 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:07:27 -0700 Subject: [VPM] May meeting? Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070509150630.02694418@mail.webquarry.com> So how did the joint meeting go? If we were having a regular meeting this month it would be next Tuesday... which is too soon. Could we pull off the joint meeting again? -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.perlmedic.com/ From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Wed May 9 15:25:38 2007 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:25:38 -0700 Subject: [VPM] May meeting? In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20070509150630.02694418@mail.webquarry.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20070509150630.02694418@mail.webquarry.com> Message-ID: At 3:07 PM -0700 5/9/07, Peter Scott wrote: >So how did the joint meeting go? The joint meeting went well, I thought. Mock and the other speakers did well. >If we were having a regular meeting this month it would be next >Tuesday... which is too soon. > >Could we pull off the joint meeting again? I would expect that we could repeat this indefinitely. All that has to happen is for Perl people to attend RCSS meetings and/or give talks on Perl-related things. Each RCSS meeting typically has 3 talks these days. -- Darren Duncan From jeremygwa at hotmail.com Fri May 18 19:43:08 2007 From: jeremygwa at hotmail.com (Jer A) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 19:43:08 -0700 Subject: [VPM] shaw.ca host and perl question Message-ID: hey all, I am wondering if shaw.ca hosting, will allow a perl cgi-script to launch a long running perl script daemon like process? is this possible, and is this common? It can really speed things up, keeping frequently accessed data in memory. shaw only supports flat file databases, and my data base is a multi file/directory. This is a volunteer job I am doing. Thanks in advance for your reply. -Jeremy A. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail with drag and drop, you can easily move and organize your mail in one simple step. Get it today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA153 From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Fri May 18 21:32:27 2007 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:32:27 -0700 Subject: [VPM] shaw.ca host and perl question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:43 PM -0700 5/18/07, Jer A wrote: >I am wondering if shaw.ca hosting, will allow a perl cgi-script to launch a >long running perl script daemon like process? is this possible, and is this >common? I would say that what you are thinking of is un-common. If you want to have a continuing process, you either use the likes of mod_perl, or you setup your daemon using a system config file, or start it while in a shell. I can't say more than that. Except, ask the Shaw tech support; they are there for answering questions of their paying customers, which you are or represent. -- Darren Duncan From jeremygwa at hotmail.com Fri May 18 21:50:42 2007 From: jeremygwa at hotmail.com (Jer A) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:50:42 -0700 Subject: [VPM] shaw.ca host and perl question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: how will I able to invoke a detached process on a unix machine from perl? I do not have access to telnet/shell. >From: Darren Duncan >To: victoria-pm at pm.org >Subject: Re: [VPM] shaw.ca host and perl question >Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:32:27 -0700 > >At 7:43 PM -0700 5/18/07, Jer A wrote: > >I am wondering if shaw.ca hosting, will allow a perl cgi-script to launch >a > >long running perl script daemon like process? is this possible, and is >this > >common? > >I would say that what you are thinking of is un-common. If you want >to have a continuing process, you either use the likes of mod_perl, >or you setup your daemon using a system config file, or start it >while in a shell. I can't say more than that. Except, ask the Shaw >tech support; they are there for answering questions of their paying >customers, which you are or represent. -- Darren Duncan >_______________________________________________ >Victoria-pm mailing list >Victoria-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/victoria-pm _________________________________________________________________ New Windows Live Hotmail is here. Upgrade for free and get a better look. www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA150 From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Fri May 18 22:55:16 2007 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:55:16 -0700 Subject: [VPM] shaw.ca host and perl question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:50 PM -0700 5/18/07, Jer A wrote: >how will I able to invoke a detached process on a unix machine from perl? >I do not have access to telnet/shell. I suggest that you talk to the Shaw tech support now, tell them what you want (to keep your data in RAM persistently, such as either have your script persistent ala mod_perl, or to start and invoke a detached daemon process), and ask the Shaw tech support how you do that on their server. -- Darren Duncan From jeremygwa at hotmail.com Wed May 23 02:29:08 2007 From: jeremygwa at hotmail.com (Jer A) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 02:29:08 -0700 Subject: [VPM] perl 6 questions Message-ID: hi all, what is the performance comparison of perl 6 to perl 5.XX? Is there a module 'use' overhead? what is the startup time like compared to perl 5.XX? Reason is, I am writing a server like script that loads other scripts into memory, before they are needed. I believe I will be able to shorten the over-head startup time (eg. module loading etc). The client scripts calls the server using an IPC mechanism. The modules the script uses and the script itself are persistant in memory on the server. How long of a shelf life does perl 5.XX have left before perl 6 comes along? Will there still be a demand for perl 5.XX interpreters?..eg 5.6,5.8? I am kind of excited about this idea/project, and I do not want my efforts to be pointless. thanks in advance for all replies, -Jer A. _________________________________________________________________ Upgrade to Windows Live Hotmail for free today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA151 From Peter at PSDT.com Wed May 23 12:01:15 2007 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:01:15 -0700 Subject: [VPM] perl 6 questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070523120102.02660788@mail.webquarry.com> At 02:29 AM 5/23/2007, Jer A wrote: >How long of a shelf life does perl 5.XX have left before perl 6 comes along? >Will there still be a demand for perl 5.XX interpreters?..eg 5.6,5.8? For at least ten years, probably longer. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.perlmedic.com/ From darren at DarrenDuncan.net Thu May 24 15:26:57 2007 From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:26:57 -0700 Subject: [VPM] Fwd: 1st year RCSS anniversary meeting fast approaching Message-ID: This message is forwarded from the Recreational Computer Science Society mailing list. -- Darren Duncan ------------- Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:13:39 -0700 From: "Peter van Hardenberg" To: reccompsci at googlegroups.com Subject: [reccompsci] 1st year anniversary meeting fast approaching Mailing-List: list reccompsci at googlegroups.com; contact reccompsci-owner at googlegroups.com List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , Hi everyone, the 1st anniversary of RCSS is almost here. I'm looking for speakers (as always) and recommendations for guest speakers. I've put out a few messages to potential guest speakers so far, but haven't confirmed anything yet so now is your chance. I'll be working to arrange guest speakers for the next few months, so feel free to recommend anyone. So far, to celebrate the 1 year anniversary, I'm hoping to line up a really great guest speaker, bring along some snacks and drinks for everyone, and have an open conversation about what people would like to see from the group in the future. What else can we do to celebrate? I've heard that the Victoria Linux Users Group has stopped meeting, as has our sibling group VOSSOC. Even the Perl Mongers haven't been meeting with their usual regularity. That means this group is pretty much the last thing left in the city, which is a damn shame. I think if we publicize the group a bit better, we could improve turnout and we would have a larger pool of people to draw from for talks. (This would have the excellent side effect that you'd all see fewer of my hand-waving chalk-board sessions.) As for member talks for this month, the open discussions on larger topics of interest have worked well in the past. Does anyone have an subject in mind? I've been reading more collision detection papers, so I can talk a bit about yet another challenge of real-time physics simulation. Anyone else read/worked on anything neat lately? One final note. I will be out of town doing some field work during the August meeting (three meetings from now) so if someone can volunteer to send out the usual invite emails for that month that would be great. I'll try to line up a guest speaker in advance before I leave to make things easy. 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