From darren at DarrenDuncan.net  Sat Mar  3 12:09:36 2007
From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:09:36 -0800
Subject: [VPM] Tue, 2007 Mar 6th, 7:00pm - March RCSS meeting
Message-ID: <p06240800c20f84ba33aa@[192.168.1.101]>

Forwarded from the "Recreational Computer Science Society" mailing 
list. -- Darren Duncan

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Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:26 -0800
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Meeting is scheduled as always for the usual time and location:

7:00PM ECS104 UVic.

Topics this month will be:

1) Compression algorithms (Sergei).
2) Application widget toolkits (Sunpreet).

Aaron will, as usual, provide a demo from the demoscene to amuse us as
we await critical mass. I will, as usual, stand at the front and some
point and say hello to everyone.

Be there or be even squarer than I know you already are,

-pvh

-- 
Peter van Hardenberg
Victoria, BC, Canada
"Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt." -- Kurt Vonnegut

From Peter at PSDT.com  Tue Mar 13 11:06:40 2007
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:06:40 -0700
Subject: [VPM] March meeting
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070313110405.02692a80@mail.webquarry.com>

Hullo.  We're a week away from our March meeting if we have one, and 
I'd like to find out who's interested in a talk.  Last month's talk on 
introduction to arrays and hashes turned into something else 
(installing modules from CPAN) as none of the attendees included the 
people who requested array and hash introductions.  Are you folks still 
out there, and are you likely to come next week?
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/


From Peter at PSDT.com  Thu Mar 15 09:47:45 2007
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:47:45 -0700
Subject: [VPM] March Meeting
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070315094000.02691c10@mail.webquarry.com>

Victoria.pm will meet at its regular date, time, and place at 7:00 pm 
on Tuesday, March 20, at UVic in ECS (Engineering Computer Science 
building) room 660 (see http://www.uvic.ca/maps/index.html).

The theme: "Everything you wanted to know about arrays and hashes but 
were afraid to ask."  I will deliver presentations that return to some 
basics as requested by survey respondees.  The topics for this meeting will be:

   Array operations
   Introduction to hashes

While aimed at the beginner, there will be a few things calculated to 
interest more knowledgeable users, and the opportunity to ask any type 
of question.  The primary customer of this presentation remains the 
novice, even people with no Perl experience at all.  Fresh meat welcome 
:-)  And a free copy of the Fall Perl Review to a random attendee.

[This was to have been the topic for the February meeting, but was 
changed on the fly by consensus.]

(Courtesy copy to VLUG and VOSSOC members by permission of the list 
managers.  Victoria.pm's home page is <http://victoria.pm.org/>.)
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/


From Peter at PSDT.com  Mon Mar 19 09:49:00 2007
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:49:00 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Victoria Perl Mongers Meeting tomorrow
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070315094757.0275faa8@mail.webquarry.com>

Victoria.pm will meet at its regular date, time, and place at 7:00 pm 
tomorrow, Tuesday, March 20, at UVic in ECS (Engineering Computer 
Science building) room 660 (see http://www.uvic.ca/maps/index.html).

The theme: "Everything you wanted to know about arrays and hashes but 
were afraid to ask."  I will deliver presentations that return to some 
basics as requested by survey respondees.  The topics for this meeting will be:

   Array operations
   Introduction to hashes

While aimed at the beginner, there will be a few things calculated to 
interest more knowledgeable users, and the opportunity to ask any type 
of question.  The primary customer of this presentation remains the 
novice, even people with no Perl experience at all.  Fresh meat welcome 
:-)  And a free copy of the Fall Perl Review to a random attendee.

[This was to have been the topic for the February meeting, but was 
changed on the fly by consensus.]

(Courtesy copy to VLUG and VOSSOC members by permission of the list 
managers.  Victoria.pm's home page is <http://victoria.pm.org/>.)
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/


From Peter at PSDT.com  Tue Mar 20 14:24:16 2007
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:24:16 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Perl Mongers room change
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070320142229.026ac410@mail.webquarry.com>

The room for tonight's meeting has been changed to ECS104 due to an 
apparent incident of vandalism.  The web site at 
http://victoria.pm.org/ has been updated.
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/


From Peter at PSDT.com  Wed Mar 21 16:43:48 2007
From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:43:48 -0700
Subject: [VPM] Seeking room sponsor
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070321163748.026385f8@mail.webquarry.com>

Thanks to those who came last night.

Clarke Brunsdon will be moving on shortly to greener - make that 
snowier - pastures.  Clarke has graciously fulfilled the duty of UVic 
room booker for several years since Abram Hindle hit the big time.  In 
order to keep meeting at UVic - definitely a choice location - we need 
someone with equal room-booking privileges to take up the mantle.

It requires contacting the appropriate authority up to once a month and 
requesting a room, generally ECS 660, and responding to me within a 
week with the confirmation.  You should also be present at least at the 
beginning of the meeting in case there are questions about the booking.

If this sounds like something you could do for the Victoria Perl 
Mongers, please let me know.
-- 
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies
http://www.perldebugged.com/
http://www.perlmedic.com/


From jeremygwa at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 23 10:19:36 2007
From: jeremygwa at hotmail.com (Jer A)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:19:36 -0700
Subject: [VPM]  wtf? Perl is slower than java,ruby,python?
Message-ID: <BAY113-F156523B66CE2CCD25FE158B26A0@phx.gbl>

hey all, you may find this interesting.

check this out ~The Computer Language Shootout:

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4sandbox/benchmark.php?test=pidigits&lang=all

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/

any way of improving perl, or conducting our own perl tests in a way that 
can help our ego?

-Jer A.

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From darren at DarrenDuncan.net  Mon Mar 26 17:40:49 2007
From: darren at DarrenDuncan.net (Darren Duncan)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:40:49 -0700
Subject: [VPM] FYI: GPLv3 timetable update - next draft in 2 days,
	final in 92
Message-ID: <p06240803c22e170db970@[192.168.1.100]>

This was just sent now from the GPLv3 Information list, but I didn't 
see any corresponding web site update yet.  I am happy to have seen 
it too, since the original schedule (which says final release within 
2 days of today) obviously won't be followed.  So the new final 
release date is about 90 days after the original final release date. 
-- Darren Duncan
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:37:50 -0400
To: info-gplv3 at gplv3.fsf.org
From: GPLv3 Information <info-gplv3 at gplv3.fsf.org>
Subject: [Info-gplv3] GPLv3 timetable update

The second discussion draft of GPLv3 was released eight months ago, in July
2006.  We had never planned to let so much time pass between public
releases of the license.  We felt it was important to fully discuss a few
specific issues, including the recent patent deal between Novell and
Microsoft, before proceeding with the process.  A new discussion draft will
be released on March 28 at 10:00 AM US Eastern time; it represents the
outcome of those discussions, and the rationale document that will
accompany it explains how we arrived at these decisions.  However, we
remain absolutely committed to hearing input from as much of the free
software community as possible before publishing a final version of the
license.  We are adjusting the drafting process to make sure that everyone
interested has an opportunity to make their voice heard.

The third discussion draft will be open for comment for sixty days.  Based
on the feedback we receive during this window, we may publish new language
from time to time for additional review.  For example, if someone points
out a side effect of some term that we hadn't considered before, we may
publish updated text for that section aimed at addressing the issue.  These
changes will be announced on the GPLv3 web site and mailing list.

We will continue to take feedback from public comments and discussion
committees as before.  In addition, if there are common questions about the
license, we will address those in blog posts on the GPLv3 web site.  Our
goal is not to preempt discussion or criticism of the draft, but rather to
enhance that discussion by helping the community fully understand the text.
We are also considering other ways to solicit input, which we will announce
as they are planned.

After this discussion period is over, we will publish a last call draft.
That draft will be open for comment for thirty days, and the final license
will be published shortly afterwards.  We would like to thank everyone for
their continued support during this process, and their assistance as we
work to make the our licenses the best they can be.

-- 
Brett Smith
Licensing Compliance Engineer, Free Software Foundation