Ok so last time we talked about this we said 15th 16th or 17th. No one else volunteered anything so I will put together a PERL OOP tutorial/lecture. Can anyone NOT meet on the 17th? Abram -- ABeZ------------ ------- ------ - ---------- -- ------------ http://www.indexdirect.com/abez/ Abram Hindle (abez at abez.ca) ---- ------- ----------- ----------- - - ------ --------ABeZ