From lukec at ActiveState.com Sat Oct 1 14:22:41 2005 From: lukec at ActiveState.com (Luke Closs) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:22:41 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 06:06:54PM -0700, Helen Cook wrote: > So there was some talk earlier about having yapc in vancouver. Lucky > for us, since no proposals have been submitted, the deadline for 2006 > has been extended to October 15th. Crazyness. While I think it would be really fun, and we could do a good job, this is a LOT of work. I was involved in organizing the Victoria Juggling Festival this year, and it's a lot of work. So if we're going to do this, I think we need at least 5-10 people committed to organizing it. > I've been gathering prices and max capacities from potential local > venues. Will has graciously offered to loan us CanSec's a/v equipment > (2 projectors, audio equipt for 1, possibly 2 tracks) and networking > gear (lots). > > Still todo: > 1.) Decide on venue and possible alterate venue. I imagine we'll look at sfu, bcit, ubc (amongst others)? > 2.) Look into hotels and dorm/hostel space (of course this will be > determined by the venue location). > 3.) Sort out things like chairs, dividers, catering, if not provided by > the venue. > 4.) Feel out sponsorship possibilities. I'll talk to ActiveState/Sophos about the possiblity of being a sponsor. > I propose the following: anyone who is seriously interested in helping > plan this join me Monday night (Oct 3rd) at Trees, and we can sort out > who's going to do what, then we will reconvene the following Monday (Oct > 10th) to pick the best possible solutions (and alternatives) and write > up the proposal. Cool. Luke -- Luke Closs PureMessage Developer There is always time to juggle in the Sophos Zone. From mock at obscurity.org Sat Oct 1 17:35:50 2005 From: mock at obscurity.org (mock) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 00:35:50 +0000 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> Message-ID: <20051002003550.GA17124@obscurity.org> On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 02:22:41PM -0700, Luke Closs wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 06:06:54PM -0700, Helen Cook wrote: > > So there was some talk earlier about having yapc in vancouver. Lucky > > for us, since no proposals have been submitted, the deadline for 2006 > > has been extended to October 15th. > > Crazyness. While I think it would be really fun, and we could do a > good job, this is a LOT of work. I was involved in organizing the > Victoria Juggling Festival this year, and it's a lot of work. So if > we're going to do this, I think we need at least 5-10 people committed > to organizing it. > I disagree. My experience is a small team of committed people is much more effective than a large team of 'sorta' committed people. We do CanSecWest with an org team of 3 people + a bunch of volunteers to help out. There will be lots of volunteers - there are always people who want to get in for free. Organization on the other hand needs to be, well, organized. Which means a small group. That said, it is an assload of work, but it can be done by people with dayjobs. > > I've been gathering prices and max capacities from potential local > > venues. Will has graciously offered to loan us CanSec's a/v equipment > > (2 projectors, audio equipt for 1, possibly 2 tracks) and networking > > gear (lots). > > Well, technically Dragos has graciously let us the a/v, but what the hell, I'll take credit. > > Still todo: > > 1.) Decide on venue and possible alterate venue. > > I imagine we'll look at sfu, bcit, ubc (amongst others)? > We should check hotel hall prices + catering (the sting is always in the catering). For some size of event (I am still trying to get attendance numbers out of the yapc folk) a hotel makes a lot of sense. will From lukec at ActiveState.com Sat Oct 1 18:04:08 2005 From: lukec at ActiveState.com (Luke Closs) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:04:08 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <20051002003550.GA17124@obscurity.org> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> <20051002003550.GA17124@obscurity.org> Message-ID: <20051002010407.GY27364@activestate.com> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 12:35:50AM +0000, mock wrote: > We should check hotel hall prices + catering (the sting is always in the > catering). For some size of event (I am still trying to get attendance > numbers out of the yapc folk) a hotel makes a lot of sense. Yapc::na was just over 400 people (the largest yet) IIRC. lc -- Luke Closs PureMessage Developer There is always time to juggle in the Sophos Zone. From hvc at cpan.org Sun Oct 2 14:20:49 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:20:49 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> Message-ID: <20051002212048.GH24129@soundwave.net> On 10/1/05, Luke Closs wrote: > we're going to do this, I think we need at least 5-10 people committed > to organizing it. There are 3 main categories of things that need to be done, plus someone to coordinate everyone, ensure that everything is actually completed, and break symmetry to avoid indecision - dealing with the venue - internet - sponsorship One committed person for each of these, plus a legion of volunteers should be sufficient. > I imagine we'll look at sfu, bcit, ubc (amongst others)? I see two main possibilities: - downtown - ubc point grey campus (I'm eliminating sfu burnaby and bcit burnaby because they are sort of crap locations -- nothing interesting nearby (restaurants, entertainment) and hard to get to without a car.) downtown has many possible venues - a school -- bcit is promising (max capacity 300) -- sfu downtown has max cap 250, thinking this is too small -- ubc downtown has max cap 240 -- need to call vcc - library is promising (max cap 300) - a theatre -- pacific cinematheque is too small -- need to call new film centre - a venue hall -- need to call commodore, concern: internet -- need to call canada place, plaza of nations -- others? - a museum -- planetarium is too small and too awkward for our numbers -- need to call science world, likely same issue - a hotel (very likely too expensive) We need to price each possibility out in detail before we can decide. > I'll talk to ActiveState/Sophos about the possiblity of being a > sponsor. Excellent. So, trees, tomorrow at 7pm. --h From shanec at ActiveState.com Sun Oct 2 14:31:11 2005 From: shanec at ActiveState.com (Shane Caraveo) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:31:11 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <20051002212048.GH24129@soundwave.net> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> <20051002212048.GH24129@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <4340519F.9030905@ActiveState.com> Helen Cook wrote: > -- sfu downtown has max cap 250, thinking this is too small sfu harbor center has plenty of space as long as you run several talks at the same time. I think the largest room held 200, most of the rest were between 30 and 120. Some rooms are configurable. Shane From hvc at cpan.org Sun Oct 2 18:18:34 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:18:34 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <4340519F.9030905@ActiveState.com> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> <20051002212048.GH24129@soundwave.net> <4340519F.9030905@ActiveState.com> Message-ID: <20051003011834.GI24129@soundwave.net> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 02:31:11PM -0700, Shane Caraveo wrote: > >-- sfu downtown has max cap 250, thinking this is too small > > sfu harbor center has plenty of space as long as you run several talks > at the same time. I think the largest room held 200, most of the rest > were between 30 and 120. Some rooms are configurable. This discounts the possibility of doing a keynote or lightning talks, though. The largest room will have to accomodate everyone; in the past everyone shows up for things like this, even if it's in parallel with other tracks. --h From hvc at cpan.org Sun Oct 2 19:03:21 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 19:03:21 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <43406556.9020805@telus.net> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <20051001212241.GW27364@activestate.com> <20051002212048.GH24129@soundwave.net> <43406556.9020805@telus.net> Message-ID: <20051003020321.GJ24129@soundwave.net> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 03:55:18PM -0700, Scott Rose wrote: > as being tenable for something like this. Ford one thing, the only > off-campus accomodations within several miles of which I am aware are a > couple of B&Bs. There may be suitable accomodations on-campus, but I'm > not sure of that-- possibly it's a strong function of whether school is > in session. Yapc is traditionally in late June, so it's not going to conflict with the winter session. Gage appartments is what I had in mind for accomodations. Ubc runs this as a hotel during the summer for conference accomodations. Rooms have private bathrooms, though they are used as student housing during the winter. There is also dorm style housing available in the towers for people wanting a cheaper option. As for off campus accomodations, you're right, people wanting to stay in a posh hotel are out of luck if they want it to be convenient. Keep in mind, however, this is yapc -- it's not posh, it's an academic conference. In 2003, yapc was at a university in Boca Raton, Florida and the hotel was nowhere near the conference site. People rented cars and drove; it wasn't much of an issue. That said, I would prefer to have it downtown to show off our city and to make getting to entertainment easier. The problem is cost. We are constrained to charging around $100 per head, and that doesn't leave much room for anything above the essentials. > There isn't much to eat on campus, and the off-campus > commercial district is two miles away. Once there, it's okay, but lacks Two miles (overestimate), but one bus stop. > the diversity of downtown. I think that if people travel to Vancouver to > attend they may well feel cheated if they get stuck out here instead of > downtown. True. People come here for a vacation, and want to see the city. It is also traditional at yapc to provide an evening of entertainment, and we can do something awesome with this time to take people to another area. So as I've said, downtown is better, but likely more expensive. The alternatives need to be priced out before we really know what's going to be possible. --h From krahnj at telus.net Tue Oct 4 16:12:30 2005 From: krahnj at telus.net (John W. Krahn) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:12:30 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] meeting topics In-Reply-To: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <43430C5E.2000301@telus.net> Helen Cook wrote: > Hi All, Hello, > The website may have claimed that there was supposed to be a meeting > today; this was a lie. Meetings will resume in October. > > Speaking of meetings, it's hard to arrange for speakers when I'm not > sure who the target audience is. There are lots of people on this list, > and I don't know if you are all quiet because you already know > everything, or because the talks that we've been having are too advanced > or uninteresting. Perhaps you might convince Tim to come up from Seattle and give his talk (see attachment.) John -- use Perl; program fulfillment -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 5042 Url: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/vancouver-pm/attachments/20051004/e8b797e7/TimMaherspeakingtoGSLUG10_8.eml From krahnj at telus.net Tue Oct 4 16:17:02 2005 From: krahnj at telus.net (John W. Krahn) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] meeting topics In-Reply-To: <43430C5E.2000301@telus.net> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> <43430C5E.2000301@telus.net> Message-ID: <43430D6E.80200@telus.net> John W. Krahn wrote: > Helen Cook wrote: > >>The website may have claimed that there was supposed to be a meeting >>today; this was a lie. Meetings will resume in October. >> >>Speaking of meetings, it's hard to arrange for speakers when I'm not >>sure who the target audience is. There are lots of people on this list, >>and I don't know if you are all quiet because you already know >>everything, or because the talks that we've been having are too advanced >>or uninteresting. > > Perhaps you might convince Tim to come up from Seattle and give his talk (see > attachment.) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Speaker: > Tim Maher, CEO, Consultix > Talk: > "Minimal Perl for UNIX and Linux People" And maybe make a joint Vancouver.pm/VanLUG meeting out of it? :-) John -- use Perl; program fulfillment From hvc at cpan.org Wed Oct 5 11:51:22 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:51:22 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] yapc 2006 In-Reply-To: <1128445345.6341.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20051001010654.GF24129@soundwave.net> <1128445345.6341.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20051005185121.GK24129@soundwave.net> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 10:02:25AM -0700, David Labatte wrote: > Sorry I took ill yesterday and didn't come to trees for this "get > together/planning meeting". I'm very interested in participating > though. Could you give some info about how it went and how others (like > myself and Luke) might still become involved. Will and myself were there. Will had the idea that we could do without one large room for keynotes etc if we were to stream video from the main room to the secondary room. This has its own issues (getting equipment is not one of them), but makes planning easier. The magic capacity downtown is 300 -- finding space for more will require a hotel, but there are many options for less. year paid location 2005 365 toronto 2004 261 buffalo 2003 163 boca raton, florida 2002 262 saint louis volunteers need to be added to paid attendance numbers, so actual numbers of people are higher. Florida had fewer people because it was harder for people to drive there; the other locations are very central. It's hard to say what our numbers would be, since we'll draw more heavily from the west coast. In terms of rooms, we were thinking 2 tracks plus a coffee/lounge area, capacities 250, 150, 100 or so. Sfu has appropriately sized space, bcit has one dividable room that holds 300 max, ubc (not downtown) has tons of space. Sfu pricing will be $450+$650+$975 * 3 = $7500 for the rooms and about $10,000 for catering coffee breaks, which is feasible given over 200 attendees. The php conference was sponsored by sfu cs dept, so they recieved a %35 discount on the price of the rooms. We need to talk to their industry liason person about sponsorship. --h From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt Mon Oct 10 02:12:12 2005 From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:12:12 +0100 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 ? Message-ID: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> Hi there :-) Sorry for not being present at the Trees meeting, but travelling around the world for a meeting in a place I haven't the slightest idea how to find... Oh, well, truth is I just found out about it :-) It was thanks to a Google's alert that I found your mailing list archives and noticed all the discussion regarding YAPC 2006 in Vancouver. Since I've just been through organizing YAPC::EU::2005 in Braga, Portugal, I thought I'd drop in and try to make myself useful :-) From what I've seen in the archives, here's what I'd like to say: - Organizing a conference with a small team is best. We organized ours with just two guys (me and Alberto) and it was an amazing conference. I've been involved in the organization of about six conferences so far and I can tell you that the less people involved, the easier it gets to put things together (there's less discussion and everybody knows who's doing what). - Yes, it's hard work. It is also one of the best experiences you will have throughout your life and you will never forget about it. - There is absolutely no way of knowing how many people will show up. That simply depends on too many factors. We considered the possibility of streaming Larry's keynote to other rooms, but it's not the same thing watching video or seeing the person right in front of you. Our backup plan was to have people sitting... pretty much everywhere, and accomodate everybody for a couple of hours inside the same room (capacity was 211, we got about 200 attendees) - Contacting potential sponsors with whom you have no previous contact can be troublesome, and most times unprofitable. It is sometimes easier to find somebody who knows the company than trying to contact them yourselves. And that's it for now. If you feel like asking questions regarding the YAPC in Braga, go ahead. On a side note, I'm pretty sure I've met some of you before, but I really don't know who's on this list. I remember a girl asking people whether they'd be willing to go to Vancouver for a YAPC, by the end of the one in Toronto; I'd assume she's around here. BTW, I gave the obfuscation talk in Toronto. Cheers, :-) jac -- Jose Alves de Castro http://jose-castro.org/ From mock at obscurity.org Tue Oct 11 01:10:45 2005 From: mock at obscurity.org (mock) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:10:45 +0000 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 ? In-Reply-To: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> References: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> Message-ID: <20051011081045.GA11704@obscurity.org> On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:12:12AM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > And that's it for now. If you feel like asking questions regarding the > YAPC in Braga, go ahead. > > On a side note, I'm pretty sure I've met some of you before, but I > really don't know who's on this list. I remember a girl asking people > whether they'd be willing to go to Vancouver for a YAPC, by the end of > the one in Toronto; I'd assume she's around here. > > BTW, I gave the obfuscation talk in Toronto. > That's probably Helen you're thinking of. We've also met, I gave the talk on DNS with mod_perl at your conference ;) mock From lukec at ActiveState.com Tue Oct 11 11:00:13 2005 From: lukec at ActiveState.com (Luke Closs) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:00:13 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 ? In-Reply-To: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> References: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> Message-ID: <20051011180013.GI877@activestate.com> On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:12:12AM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: ... > And that's it for now. If you feel like asking questions regarding the > YAPC in Braga, go ahead. Thanks for the advice! > On a side note, I'm pretty sure I've met some of you before, but I > really don't know who's on this list. I remember a girl asking people > whether they'd be willing to go to Vancouver for a YAPC, by the end of > the one in Toronto; I'd assume she's around here. I played with my balls on stage. lc -- Luke Closs PureMessage Developer There is always time to juggle in the Sophos Zone. From jac at natura.di.uminho.pt Wed Oct 12 01:36:48 2005 From: jac at natura.di.uminho.pt (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Castro) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:36:48 +0100 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 ? In-Reply-To: <20051011180013.GI877@activestate.com> References: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> <20051011180013.GI877@activestate.com> Message-ID: <20051012083648.GA4169@natura.di.uminho.pt> * Luke Closs (lukec at ActiveState.com) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:12:12AM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > ... > > And that's it for now. If you feel like asking questions regarding the > > YAPC in Braga, go ahead. > > Thanks for the advice! > > > On a side note, I'm pretty sure I've met some of you before, but I > > really don't know who's on this list. I remember a girl asking people > > whether they'd be willing to go to Vancouver for a YAPC, by the end of > > the one in Toronto; I'd assume she's around here. > > I played with my balls on stage. That's really more information than we need, Luke... :-) jac -- Jose Alves de Castro http://jose-castro.org/ From hvc at cpan.org Wed Oct 12 09:52:59 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:52:59 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 ? In-Reply-To: <20051012083648.GA4169@natura.di.uminho.pt> References: <20051010091212.GA25649@natura.di.uminho.pt> <20051011180013.GI877@activestate.com> <20051012083648.GA4169@natura.di.uminho.pt> Message-ID: <20051012165259.GP24129@soundwave.net> On 10/12/05, José Castro wrote: > * Luke Closs (lukec at ActiveState.com) wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:12:12AM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > > > really don't know who's on this list. I remember a girl asking > > > people whether they'd be willing to go to Vancouver for a YAPC, by > > > the end of the one in Toronto; I'd assume she's around here. Yes, I am indeed she. Thanks, José, for the advice. > > I played with my balls on stage. > That's really more information than we need, Luke... :-) Well, I, for one, enjoyed watching. :) --h From support at sky-bank.com Fri Oct 14 15:58:37 2005 From: support at sky-bank.com (Sky Bank) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:58:37 GMT Subject: [Van-pm] Dear Members Sky Bank Please Verify Acconts ! Message-ID: <1129330717.19753.qmail@arribada.ebay.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/vancouver-pm/attachments/20051014/d38fcfb2/attachment.html From shijialeee at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 14:54:08 2005 From: shijialeee at yahoo.com (James.Q.L) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 Message-ID: <20051015215408.5951.qmail@web50415.mail.yahoo.com> Just heard from a friend that vanvouver pm is discssing YAPC::NA::2006. I am glad i heard it. I don't have much constructive suggestion to make but a link: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/05/12/rdice.html it is richard dice, this year toronto YAPC organizer's interview on perl.com. I am sure he would be glad to help out if you have any question. btw, I am from toronto pm. cheers, Qiang __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ From Peter at PSDT.com Tue Oct 25 11:00:11 2005 From: Peter at PSDT.com (Peter Scott) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:00:11 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC 2006 Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20051025104947.02446258@mail.webquarry.com> Hello from Victoria.pm. I just heard about the Vancouver.pm YAPC bid. How can I be of assistance? I can't be of much help with local logistics from here; I can speak at the conference of course (I gave a talk at Toronto, the last two OSCONs, a Perl Whirl...). If you want to have a social trip to the island I can help there. Victoria.pm has very few active members but I will alert them to your bid. Do you have a separate mailing list or wiki for it? (I only just joined your list; it's been a few years since the last time I checked and your group appeared moribund at that time.) -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.perlmedic.com/ From philwhelan66 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 26 00:52:36 2005 From: philwhelan66 at hotmail.com (Phil Whelan - Thoughtman Software) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:52:36 +0100 Subject: [Van-pm] Perl Job market in Vancouver Message-ID: Hi, I'm coming to Vancouver next year long term and would really like to get involved in any Vancouver Perl Mongery. I work as a Perl website programmer currently in Tokyo and I was wondering what the job situation is in Vancouver and if there any good companies I could contact. Also, I would really like to meet other Perl enthusiasts. I'm looking at arriving around March/April 2006. Cheers, Phil _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk From stas at stason.org Fri Oct 28 12:58:48 2005 From: stas at stason.org (Stas Bekman) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:58:48 -0700 Subject: [Van-pm] Perl Job market in Vancouver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <436282F8.7090702@stason.org> Phil Whelan - Thoughtman Software wrote: > Hi, > > I'm coming to Vancouver next year long term and would really like to get > involved in any Vancouver Perl Mongery. > I work as a Perl website programmer currently in Tokyo and I was wondering > what the job situation is in Vancouver and if there any good companies I > could contact. Also, I would really like to meet other Perl enthusiasts. > I'm looking at arriving around March/April 2006. Phil, This might be of help: http://jobs.perl.org/search?q=vancouver&bin=and -- _____________________________________________________________ Stas Bekman mailto:stas at stason.org http://stason.org/ MailChannels: Assured Messaging(TM) http://mailchannels.com/ The "Practical mod_perl" book http://modperlbook.org/ http://perl.apache.org/ http://perl.org/ http://logilune.com/ From hvc at cpan.org Sun Oct 30 15:52:57 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:52:57 -0800 Subject: [Van-pm] YAPC 2006 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20051025104947.02446258@mail.webquarry.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20051025104947.02446258@mail.webquarry.com> Message-ID: <20051030235257.GB5995@soundwave.net> Hello, First, I want to apologize to Peter for taking so long to reply, and secondly to the group for my general flakiness as of late. Will and I did submit a proposal which I've attached. Most of the work will go into organizing things leading up to yapc, so assuming we win the bid (have yet to hear back from the organizing committee), there is much more to do.. It seems likely that some people would want to do a trip to the island, and it would be great if locals over there could organize that. There currently isn't a separate list for yapc, if it becomes necessary we can set one up. --h -------------- next part -------------- Location: Vancouver, Canada. Located on the west coast of Canada, Vancouver is a novel choice for YAPC. Vancouver is the largest city in the province of British Columbia and the third largest city in Canada. It's surrounded by water on three sides and is nestled alongside the Coast Mountain Range. Vancouver is home to spectacular natural scenery and a bustling metropolitan core, and boasts one of the mildest climates in Canada. The City of Vancouver supports a wide range of destination sites - from more than 190 parks to three different civic theatres - that are interesting places to visit for tourists and residents alike. Vancouver is also home to many other sights and is networked by a comprehensive transportation system. Vancouver is host to a booming computer and technology industry and is a leading city in the biotechnology field. For those interested in bioinformatics, the human genome was sequenced in Vancouver using Perl. Vancouver has two world class universities (UBC, SFU) as well as numerous colleges and technical schools. Notable companies in Vancouver using Perl include ActiveState, Sophos, MailChannels and Sxip. Organizers Helen Cook is a programmer at Memotrax Inc, and the learder of Vancouver Perl Mongers. She has attended several YAPC's and spoke at YAPC 2003. hvc at soundwave.net Will Whittaker is a member of the CanSecWest team, and has helped to organize CanSecWest 2000-2005, PacSec 2003-2005 and EUSec 2006. He has spoken at Perl Conference 4.0 and YAPC::EU 2003-2005. mock at obscurity.org Facilities SFU Harbour Centre Campus (downtown Vancouver) http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/maes/rooms.htm Track 1 Room Joseph and Rosalie Segal Centre (rooms 1400 - 1430) seats 250 theatre style Track 2 Room Fletcher Challenge Canada Theatre (room 1900) seats 200 Snacks, registration, milling about Labatt Hall (room 1700) seats 110 (but will be arranged for milling about in) Assumptions above are that there are 2 tracks, and to expect up to 400 attendees. If the attendance number is lower than 400 we can drop the Fletcher Challenge Canada Theatre room, and divide the Segal Centre in half. The plan is for 2 tracks as we feel that 3 tracks is too many, and attendees want to see a greater percentage of the show. If 3 tracks are required, then we can use the Labatt Hall for the third track, and a different room as the milling about space. Catering: Out To Lunch Catering (provided by venue) http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/maes/otl.htm Plan is to do 6 breaks with coffee and snacks. The catering company can handle lunch, breakfast, etc if someone wants to sponsor it. Accomodation Hotel There are many options for hotels near the venue. Standard rates are listed for the hotels, none of these include a group discount and should be considered approximate. Delta Hotels (550 West Hastings) is the closest option, located directly accross the street from SFU harbour centre. Internet is complementary. CAD$229/night Days Inn (921 West Pender) is a cheaper option. All rooms have internet. CAD$150/night The Hyatt Regency Hotel (655 Burrard Street) is a slightly nicer hotel. Internet is available. CAD$289.00/night The Hotel Vancouver (900 West Georgia) is a Vancouver landmark, but is $339CAD/night. Hostel Nearby hostels can accommodate up to 400 people, at very affordable rates (CAD$29), though a group rate has not yet been negotiated. http://www.hihostels.ca/hostels/BC/BCRegion/VancouverDowntown/Hostels/2-32-3.html http://www.hihostels.ca/hostels/BC/BCRegion/VancouverCentral/Hostels/2-142-3.html Equipment A/V Sponsors (CanSecWest) can provide two projectors, mics and soundboards. We will need to use screens and PA system provided by the venue. Network All rooms have direct internet connections. Sponsors (CanSecWest) can provide wireless access points, ethernet and switches to wire the venue. Transportation YVR is an international airport; direct flights from major points of departure should be available. Transportation from the airport to downtown is available by Airporter bus (CAD$12), taxi (CAD$30), limousine (CAD$40), or public transit (CAD$4). The hotel and hostel are within a 5-15 minute walk from the venue, and cabs are readily available for the lazy (CAD$5). The city itself has excellent public transit, including busses to practically everywhere and rapid transit (Skytrain). Entertainment and Events The plan is to hold the auction after the last talks on the last day in a reception hall at the hotel or in the Segal Centre if space allows. A cash bar will serve drinks, and snacks will be provided pending sponsorship. If people are interested we can arrange a trip out to Grouse Mountain http://www.grousemountain.com/welcome.cfm We can also do a tour around Stanley Park http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/parks/parks/stanley/ Wreck Beach is famous for those inclinded to be a little daring http://www.wreckbeach.org For those interested in culture there is Bard on the Beach http://www.bardonthebeach.org Or the Vancouver Art Gallery http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/home.cfm Science world could be of interest for those with kids (or not ;) ) http://www.scienceworld.bc.ca Likewise the Storyeum is also kid friendly http://www.storyeum.com/ Finally Vancouver has the usual clubs and bars catering to any taste http://www.clubzone.com/im/clubs_club/ The above activities are available within reasonable walking or public transit distance from the venue and all hotels/hostels. Sponsors CanSecWest has agreed to sponsor a/v and networking equipment. Tentatively, Sophos and ActiveState are interested. Sxip is also local and a potential sponsor. Other possibilities include MailChannels, River Styx Internet, Peer1 and SFU Computer Science and Engineering. Costs Venue Note: Venue cost will be cheaper if SFU Computer Science sponsors Segal Centre CAD $975 per day Fletcher Challenge Theatre CAD $650 per day Labatt Hall CAD $450 per day Total per day: CAD $2075 for three days: CAD $6225 We will need to spend an additional approximately CAD $2000 if we need a large space for the auction. Catering We estimate that catering 6 breaks will cost approximately CAD $1500 each. Staff charges will likely add another CAD $2000 to the total. A cash bar will cost approximately an additional CAD $250. Breaks CAD $9000 Staff CAD $2000 Cash Bar Staff CAD $250 Total: CAD $11250 A/V We will likely need the time of the facility A/V person for some set up for the PA system and screens. Previous experience indicates that this, plus incidental equipment not covered by sponsors should cost under CAD $1500 Other At minimum we should have conference t-shirts. These will cost about CAD $10 per person. Assuming 400 people this will be CAD $4000. Badges are about CAD $2 per person. Assuming 400 people this will be CAD $800. Fancier badges and lanyards can be done if there is a sponsor. Printed conference material or CD's can be done if there is a sponsor. t-shirts CAD $4000 badges CAD $800 Total: CAD $4800 Totals Venue: CAD $8225 Catering: CAD $11250 A/V: CAD $1500 Other: CAD $4800 Total Cost: CAD $25775 At todays exchange rate that is USD $21720 So assuming USD $85 per person we need 255 attendees to break even if we have no sponsors. Or assuming we have about 300 people attending we have an extra USD $3825 or about CAD $4500 to deal with any unforseen expenses. From hvc at cpan.org Sun Oct 30 16:12:50 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:12:50 -0800 Subject: [Van-pm] November meeting Was: Re: meeting topics In-Reply-To: <1128030647.4460.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> <1128023516.4460.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050929213337.GL27364@activestate.com> <1128030647.4460.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20051031001250.GC5995@soundwave.net> So, let's have a meeting, eh? I'd like to put together something on Higher Order Perl, and it seems people would be interested in that too. Luke, do you still want to do a presentation on Selenium? If yes, those two talks would make for a decent meeting. --h On 9/29/05, David Labatte wrote: > On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 14:33 -0700, Luke Closs wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 12:51:56PM -0700, David Labatte wrote: > > > * automated testing of ajax web content in the real world > > > > Yeah, +1 on this. I've just been fooling around (don't tell my > > wife) > > with Selenium, a web testing framework that makes it easy to test > > javascript and everything else. I could show this off at the next > > meeting. It's not very perl specific though. > > It seems a bit odd considering I'm only 20 feet from you in the same > office.. but... > > +1 for you putting together a presentation on Selenium. It looks > awesome and judging by the result of my straw poll at a recent > meeting, > most people doing web dev still need a testing solution.. perhaps > Selenium is it. From lukec at ActiveState.com Mon Oct 31 10:55:56 2005 From: lukec at ActiveState.com (Luke Closs) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:55:56 -0800 Subject: [Van-pm] November meeting Was: Re: meeting topics In-Reply-To: <20051031001250.GC5995@soundwave.net> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> <1128023516.4460.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050929213337.GL27364@activestate.com> <1128030647.4460.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051031001250.GC5995@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <20051031185556.GN12776@activestate.com> On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 04:12:50PM -0800, Helen Cook wrote: > So, let's have a meeting, eh? > > I'd like to put together something on Higher Order Perl, and it seems > people would be interested in that too. Luke, do you still want to do a > presentation on Selenium? If yes, those two talks would make for a > decent meeting. Sure. Luke P.S. - thanks for sending out the proposal. -- Luke Closs PureMessage Developer There is always time to juggle in the Sophos Zone. From hvc at cpan.org Mon Oct 31 15:57:28 2005 From: hvc at cpan.org (Helen Cook) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:57:28 -0800 Subject: [Van-pm] November meeting Was: Re: meeting topics In-Reply-To: <20051031185556.GN12776@activestate.com> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> <1128023516.4460.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050929213337.GL27364@activestate.com> <1128030647.4460.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051031001250.GC5995@soundwave.net> <20051031185556.GN12776@activestate.com> Message-ID: <20051031235728.GE5995@soundwave.net> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:55:56AM -0800, Luke Closs wrote: > Sure. Cool. How about Thursday, Nov 24th? > P.S. - thanks for sending out the proposal. No worries. --h From lukec at ActiveState.com Mon Oct 31 16:18:43 2005 From: lukec at ActiveState.com (Luke Closs) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:18:43 -0800 Subject: [Van-pm] November meeting Was: Re: meeting topics In-Reply-To: <20051031235728.GE5995@soundwave.net> References: <20050929192508.GD24129@soundwave.net> <1128023516.4460.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050929213337.GL27364@activestate.com> <1128030647.4460.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051031001250.GC5995@soundwave.net> <20051031185556.GN12776@activestate.com> <20051031235728.GE5995@soundwave.net> Message-ID: <20051101001843.GV12776@activestate.com> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 03:57:28PM -0800, Helen Cook wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:55:56AM -0800, Luke Closs wrote: > > Sure. > > Cool. How about Thursday, Nov 24th? That seems way far away, so sure, why not. On a related note, I'll be doing an interview podcast for qapodcast.com about Selenium tomorrow night. Cheers, Luke -- Luke Closs PureMessage Developer There is always time to juggle in the Sophos Zone.