From jason at desertdream.com Fri Jul 2 11:26:46 2004 From: jason at desertdream.com (Jason Badger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] RE: Any Perl Users Out There? Message-ID: <1449.144.90.122.62.1088785606.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> Steve, what do you have in mind? Anyone interested in getting a once a month "breakfast at denny's" meeting going? I work in Web Services at the Pima Comm College District Office and do mostly custom form handler development with PERL. Pretty lightweight stuff for the most part, but every now and then I get a meatier project to chew on. I'm basically the only PERL person here so I would jump at the chance to be part of a larger community. cheers, jason From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Fri Jul 2 16:04:14 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] RE: Any Perl Users Out There? In-Reply-To: <1449.144.90.122.62.1088785606.squirrel@www.desertdream.com > Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040702160414.012ec858@mail.iwhome.com> I think it's a good idea to have a once a month meal-meeting at some restaurant, but I wonder if dinner might be a better time? There is kind of a stereotype that says a sizable fraction of programmers don't want to get up very early. :-) If dinner, maybe 7pm-ish? Please give feedback. Chris At 09:26 AM 7/2/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Steve, what do you have in mind? Anyone interested in getting a once a >month "breakfast at denny's" meeting going? > >I work in Web Services at the Pima Comm College District Office and do >mostly custom form handler development with PERL. Pretty lightweight stuff >for the most part, but every now and then I get a meatier project to chew >on. I'm basically the only PERL person here so I would jump at the chance >to be part of a larger community. > >cheers, >jason > >_______________________________________________ >Tucson-pm mailing list >Tucson-pm@pm.org >http://www.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tucson-pm > > From steve at tandika.com Fri Jul 2 19:23:22 2004 From: steve at tandika.com (Steve Baker) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] RE: Any Perl Users Out There? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20040702160414.012ec858@mail.iwhome.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20040702160414.012ec858@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <40E5FC7A.50504@tandika.com> I think a get-together would be great! My preference is breakfast (I DO get up early!) but any time is OK with me. Wednesday evenings are not good for me. -- Steve Baker | kiku wa ittoki no haji | kikanu wa matsudai no haji Chris Niswander wrote: > I think it's a good idea to have a once a month meal-meeting > at some restaurant, but I wonder if dinner might be a better > time? > > There is kind of a stereotype that says a sizable fraction > of programmers don't want to get up very early. :-) > > If dinner, maybe 7pm-ish? > > Please give feedback. > > Chris > > At 09:26 AM 7/2/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >>Steve, what do you have in mind? Anyone interested in getting a once a >>month "breakfast at denny's" meeting going? >> >>I work in Web Services at the Pima Comm College District Office and do >>mostly custom form handler development with PERL. Pretty lightweight stuff >>for the most part, but every now and then I get a meatier project to chew >>on. I'm basically the only PERL person here so I would jump at the chance >>to be part of a larger community. From steve at tandika.com Mon Jul 5 20:14:50 2004 From: steve at tandika.com (Steve Baker) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] RE: Any Perl Users Out There? Message-ID: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> Steve Baker wrote: >> I think a get-together would be great! My preference is breakfast (I >> DO get up early!) but any time is OK with me. Wednesday evenings are >> not good for me. Tim Spriggs wrote: > breakfast?!? oh... he must either be kidding or he just doesn't sleep at > night. :P > > In any case, I would be interested in > breakfast/brunch/lunch/tea/dinner/dessert somewhere in the Tucson Area > (preferably East of Oracle and South of River.) Paul Scott wrote: > Except during the summer most evenings are not good for me. I am not > normally up early but I can do it once in a while. So, where and when? It looks like a dinner is best for now. Perhaps next week? Anybody have any idea what restaurant is most likely to tolerate a bunch of rowdy perl programmers? -- Steve Baker | kiku wa ittoki no haji | kikanu wa matsudai no haji From jason at desertdream.com Tue Jul 6 12:21:16 2004 From: jason at desertdream.com (Jason Badger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] RE: Any Perl Users Out There? In-Reply-To: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> References: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> Message-ID: <1944.144.90.122.62.1089134476.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> Chris where are you in all this? You should be at the first gathering so we can recognize you for your efforts with this list. I'll buy you a beer or a coffee, depending on what time of day we meet. Oh what the hell, I'll buy you a beer for breakfast if you really want it. Okay, so how about the Coco's at 2990 Campbell (b/n Grant and Ft. Lowell) Tuesday the 13th at 7pm? Show of hands? From jason at desertdream.com Wed Jul 7 13:34:44 2004 From: jason at desertdream.com (Jason Badger) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Meeting In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> References: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com><40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <1736.144.90.122.62.1089225284.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> Chris suggested: > what about Apple Farm on the northwest corner of Euclid & Grant? > So far as I've seen, it's a relatively quiet, spacious coffeeshop > with a large menu, where we could probably request/commandeer an area > towards the back for our own noise. > It's close enough to the U of A (~1 mile) that I think carless students > could walk or bike, in case that becomes relevant. Sounds good - let's do the Apple Farm, Tuesday (7/13) at 6pm. Please email me with your time/location preferences for future meetings and those of us present on Tuesday can strategize on how to accommodate as many of us as possible. cheers, jason From steve at tandika.com Wed Jul 7 20:36:15 2004 From: steve at tandika.com (Steve Baker) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Meeting In-Reply-To: <1736.144.90.122.62.1089225284.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> References: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com><40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> <1736.144.90.122.62.1089225284.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> Message-ID: <40ECA50F.3060302@tandika.com> Jason Badger wrote: > Chris suggested: > > >>what about Apple Farm on the northwest corner of Euclid & Grant? >>So far as I've seen, it's a relatively quiet, spacious coffeeshop >>with a large menu, where we could probably request/commandeer an area >>towards the back for our own noise. > > >>It's close enough to the U of A (~1 mile) that I think carless students >>could walk or bike, in case that becomes relevant. > > > Sounds good - let's do the Apple Farm, Tuesday (7/13) at 6pm. > > Please email me with your time/location preferences for future meetings > and those of us present on Tuesday can strategize on how to accommodate as > many of us as possible. Apple Farm sounds good to me. I'll be there! -- Steve Baker | kiku wa ittoki no haji | kikanu wa matsudai no haji From prakash at ece.arizona.edu Thu Jul 8 00:37:03 2004 From: prakash at ece.arizona.edu (Jayaprakash Rudraraju) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Meeting In-Reply-To: <40ECA50F.3060302@tandika.com> References: <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com><40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> <1736.144.90.122.62.1089225284.squirrel@www.desertdream.com> <40ECA50F.3060302@tandika.com> Message-ID: I joined the list today.. and will see you guys at AppleFarm. I work as computer and database programmer in Comparative Genomics lab at UA and use perl mostly for the development of Data parsing and retrivel programs. 6:36pm, IP packets from Steve Baker delivered: > Jason Badger wrote: >> Chris suggested: >> >> >>> what about Apple Farm on the northwest corner of Euclid & Grant? >>> So far as I've seen, it's a relatively quiet, spacious coffeeshop >>> with a large menu, where we could probably request/commandeer an area >>> towards the back for our own noise. >> >> >>> It's close enough to the U of A (~1 mile) that I think carless students >>> could walk or bike, in case that becomes relevant. >> >> >> Sounds good - let's do the Apple Farm, Tuesday (7/13) at 6pm. >> >> Please email me with your time/location preferences for future meetings >> and those of us present on Tuesday can strategize on how to accommodate as >> many of us as possible. > > Apple Farm sounds good to me. I'll be there! > > -- Prakash He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good. ------------------------------------- Printed using 100% recycled electrons From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Fri Jul 9 19:36:07 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Details of interest to perfectionists, re *post*-July meeting scheduling. In-Reply-To: <1736.144.90.122.62.1089225284.squirrel@www.desertdream.com > References: <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> <40E9FD0A.2090900@tandika.com> <3.0.6.32.20040707024759.00a634e8@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040709193607.00a74ca0@mail.iwhome.com> At 11:34 AM 7/7/2004 -0700, "Jason Badger" wrote: >Chris suggested: > >> what about Apple Farm on the northwest corner of Euclid & Grant? >> So far as I've seen, it's a relatively quiet, spacious coffeeshop >> with a large menu, where we could probably request/commandeer an area >> towards the back for our own noise. > >> It's close enough to the U of A (~1 mile) that I think carless students >> could walk or bike, in case that becomes relevant. > >Sounds good - let's do the Apple Farm, Tuesday (7/13) at 6pm. > >Please email me with your time/location preferences for future meetings >and those of us present on Tuesday can strategize on how to accommodate as >many of us as possible. > >cheers, >jason Hi Everyone, I wonder whether it might be a good idea for people to post to the list their time/location preferences for future meetings, just in hopes of sparking some ideas from people who aren't not at the Apple Farm 7/13 6pm meeting. Or is that overdoing it? I don't think we have more than 15 subscribers to this list, so I don't think we'll get too large a heap of preference postings right now. The following is a list of some sources I looked at for events that we might want to try not to conflict with too much when we come up with a more permanent meeting schedule. Easily bored people might not want to read it. :-S People curious about programming-related events in/near Tucson might read this list just to find out about events they didn't know about. ---------------------------------------------------------------- *Links to Several Lists of Events that Presumably Someone Could Experience As A Schedule Conflict* Recently I've looked at a listing of Tucson Computer Society events (http://www.aztcs.org/activities/calendar.html), a listing of IT-related events compiled by AZIPA and emailed out once a month (local copy at http://bitboost.com/ref/ug/deleteme.txt , originally from azipa-aztechlist-techoasis-announcements-owner@yahoogroups.com), The Tucson Free Unix Group website (http://www.tfug.org/) and a listing of some computer-related User Groups in Tucson (http://bitboost.com/ref/ug/ugs-in-tucson.html) There is one computer-related event in town that I notice happens on 7/13 (the second Tuesday of the month) It's the Tucson Java Users Group (http://www.tucson-jug.org/) which is pretty well-established. I wonder if that could become a conflict for anyone? But for me, 7/13 would be good for the first meeting at least. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Of course, if we try to find a date that has no theoretical/hypothetical problems, we might take forever. As some people say, "better is the enemy of done." [ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22better+is+the+enemy+of+done %22&btnG=Google+Search ] (I have seen an ancestral remark, "The best is the enemy of the good," attributed to Voltaire. Also cf. the essay "Worse Is Better" at e.g. http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html) Chris From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Tue Jul 13 16:15:46 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Reminder: Meeting Today for Tucson Perl Mongers, 6 pm Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> Tuesday July 13th, 2004 6 pm Apple Farm Restaurant Northwest corner of 1st and Grant. If you're using an Internet map service (e.g. MapQuest), 850 E. Grant, Tucson AZ should take you to within a block. Chris From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Mon Jul 19 16:46:42 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Reminder: Meeting Today for Tucson Perl Mongers, 6 pm In-Reply-To: <1775.144.90.122.168.1090259558.squirrel@www.desertdream.co m> References: <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040719164642.0131bd18@mail.iwhome.com> At 10:52 AM 7/19/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Chris, > >How was the meeting? I was sick all last week and couldn't make it, but >was curious how it turned out. Will there be another? > >-jason Hi Jason, I hope you're feeling better lately. I think the scheduling of another face-to-face Tucson PM meeting will have to be worked out on this mailing list. Chris From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Mon Jul 19 16:47:28 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] What the Perl Mongers meeting was like last week (on July 13th) In-Reply-To: <1775.144.90.122.168.1090259558.squirrel@www.desertdream.co m> References: <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040719164728.0130c6e0@mail.iwhome.com> I arrived at about 6:05, to find Steve Baker and Paul Scott already there. We hung out and chatted about Perl and related topics until a little after 8pm. (Any errors in the following summary are my own.) Steve talked some about how Perl is used internally at AOL for many things, including version control. In his work for AOL he programs in Perl for hours every day. He said that of the seventeen different platforms he supports within AOL (various versions of UNIX and Windows), the only languages he's gotten to compile on all seventeen are Perl and TCL (gcc was too much of a struggle on IRIX and AIX.) I was intrigued to hear that his experience programming in Perl made LISP easier for him, presumably because some of Perl's more advanced features helped him to better relate to LISP. Paul develops software and teaches, and also uses computers to help him with writing music and typesetting it as sheet music. His use of Perl includes connecting together pieces of C++ code in music software. I was kind of tired and IMHO didn't say much interesting at all! We didn't get around to talking about when the next meeting should be. I think we'll have to use this mailing list to work that out. Chris --- At 10:52 AM 7/19/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Chris, > >How was the meeting? I was sick all last week and couldn't make it, but >was curious how it turned out. Will there be another? > >-jason > >Chris Niswander said: >> >> Tuesday July 13th, 2004 >> 6 pm >> Apple Farm Restaurant >> Northwest corner of 1st and Grant. >> >> If you're using an Internet map service (e.g. MapQuest), >> 850 E. Grant, Tucson AZ should take you to within a block. >> >> Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tucson-pm mailing list >> Tucson-pm@pm.org >> http://www.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/tucson-pm >> > > > From cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com Wed Jul 28 17:47:01 2004 From: cn-4-perl-users-group at bitboost.com (Chris Niswander) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:38:27 2004 Subject: [Tucson-pm] Meeting scheduling? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20040719164642.0131bd18@mail.iwhome.com> References: <1775.144.90.122.168.1090259558.squirrel@www.desertdream.co m> <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> <3.0.6.32.20040713161546.0133b760@mail.iwhome.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040728174701.00b7eb90@mail.iwhome.com> I'll be preposterously busy from July 28 to August 11, so if people schedule a PM meeting during that time, I probably won't be able to show up. Of course, if enough other people *can* show up, go ahead, and please have fun. Chris