From olaf.alders at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 19:19:29 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:19:29 -0500 Subject: [tpm] November meeting Message-ID: This month Alan Rocker is going to go over the Perl deltas for the last X versions and will summarize the important changes introduced by each version. I _think_ that we can also squeeze in one more speaker on this evening. Would anyone like to volunteer? It doesn't have to be a long talk. Would be a good opportunity for a first time speaker. Olaf From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Nov 14 11:20:43 2014 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:20:43 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Overlooked anniversary Message-ID: We missed a very important anniversary last month; Perl 5's 20th. birthday. Larry launched 5.000 on Oct 17th. 1994, according to perldoc.perl.org. How could we have overlooked that? From john.malcolm.macdonald at gmail.com Fri Nov 14 11:45:43 2014 From: john.malcolm.macdonald at gmail.com (John Macdonald) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:45:43 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Overlooked anniversary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow. Perl 5 was such a huge upgrade from perl 4 too. In fact, there was so much added that my company didn't even try to convert from 4 to 5 for 3 years - we assumed that there would be huge numbers of compatibility issues. In the end, the backward compatibility was extremely good and we were kicking ourselves for not upgrading much sooner. (As I recall, the biggest compatibility issue was that perl 4 treated @ inside doube quoted strings DWIMishly - if it had seen an array that matched the name after the @, then it interpolated, otherwise it left the @ unchanged; while perl 5 always interpolated the @ as an array. That was an easy fix, though - just tediously ".*@ and figure out whether each needed to be changed. On 14 November 2014 14:20, wrote: > > We missed a very important anniversary last month; Perl 5's 20th. birthday. > > Larry launched 5.000 on Oct 17th. 1994, according to perldoc.perl.org. How > could we have overlooked that? > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeen at verizon.net Thu Nov 20 17:44:08 2014 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:44:08 -0500 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA::2015: Salt Lake City: June 8-10, 2015 Message-ID: <546E98E8.3010404@verizon.net> The YAPC::NA::2015 web site is now live! http://www.yapcna.org/yn2015/ As is the blog. Meet the Salt Lake local organizing team: http://blog.yapcna.org/2014/11/19/introducing-the-salt-lake-local-team/ From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Nov 21 05:46:19 2014 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:46:19 -0500 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA::2015: Salt Lake City: June 8-10, 2015 In-Reply-To: <546E98E8.3010404@verizon.net> References: <546E98E8.3010404@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0f5b924d957e4db3fe351a85d999e77b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> > > As is the blog. Meet the Salt Lake local organizing team: > Will it be necessary to smuggle in supplies of programming fluid (coffee)? From arocker at Vex.Net Tue Nov 25 07:05:11 2014 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:05:11 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Wednesday Message-ID: <3ae681b6f897b1ee452f1cae20b71726.squirrel@mail.vex.net> I propose to talk about the changes in Perl 5.16, 5.18, and 5.20. I assume there'll be an audience? From olaf.alders at gmail.com Tue Nov 25 07:16:09 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:16:09 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Wednesday In-Reply-To: <3ae681b6f897b1ee452f1cae20b71726.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <3ae681b6f897b1ee452f1cae20b71726.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: Let's make it official: http://www.meetup.com/Toronto-Perl-Mongers/events/218891031/ If anyone else wants to give a short presentation, I'm sure we can fit it in tomorrow as well. On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:05 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > I propose to talk about the changes in Perl 5.16, 5.18, and 5.20. 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I do have a couple of folks who can possibly speak in 2015, but no firm commitments yet. If anyone would like to speak, now would be a good time. Ideally we could plan out our first 6 months and then not have to scramble for talks. Olaf From arocker at Vex.Net Thu Nov 27 07:31:46 2014 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:31:46 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Transcripts, samples, and future events In-Reply-To: <0FF2E8BA-1605-46E2-8E0E-C381DC8A7403@gmail.com> References: <0FF2E8BA-1605-46E2-8E0E-C381DC8A7403@gmail.com> Message-ID: I forgot to include links to the full Perl deltas: http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5160delta.html http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5180delta.html http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5200delta.html From talexb at gmail.com Thu Nov 27 07:46:40 2014 From: talexb at gmail.com (Alex Beamish) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:46:40 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Transcripts, samples, and future events In-Reply-To: <0FF2E8BA-1605-46E2-8E0E-C381DC8A7403@gmail.com> References: <0FF2E8BA-1605-46E2-8E0E-C381DC8A7403@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi guys, I'm sorry I missed this month's meeting -- I've had the Cold From Hell over the last week, and only feel like I've fully recovered today. I'm looking forward to listening to last night's discussion. As I remember, we had a nice time at C'est What a year ago -- at Jarvis and Front. A good selection of beers, decent food, good central location. http://www.cestwhat.com/ Cheers, Alex On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > A big thank you to Alan for wading through the perldeltas and giving us > the highlights. There was a lot of good discussion and I got some valuable > information out of it. It was time well spent. > > On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:18 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > > > We had so much fun last night, we forgot to arrange a December meeting. > > Does someone want to start that discussion? (A plan for January might be > > an idea, too.) > > Does anyone want to propose a venue + date for December? I haven't been > to the socials lately, so I'm not a good person to pitch ideas. I do have > a couple of folks who can possibly speak in 2015, but no firm commitments > yet. If anyone would like to speak, now would be a good time. Ideally we > could plan out our first 6 months and then not have to scramble for talks. > > Olaf > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -- Alex Beamish Toronto, Ontario -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ioncache at gmail.com Thu Nov 27 11:25:31 2014 From: ioncache at gmail.com (Mark Jubenville) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:25:31 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Transcripts, samples, and future events In-Reply-To: References: <0FF2E8BA-1605-46E2-8E0E-C381DC8A7403@gmail.com> Message-ID: +1 for C'est What I'll have to take a look a the transcripts from last night too On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alex Beamish wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm sorry I missed this month's meeting -- I've had the Cold From Hell > over the last week, and only feel like I've fully recovered today. I'm > looking forward to listening to last night's discussion. > > As I remember, we had a nice time at C'est What a year ago -- at Jarvis > and Front. A good selection of beers, decent food, good central location. > http://www.cestwhat.com/ > > Cheers, > > Alex > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Olaf Alders > wrote: > >> A big thank you to Alan for wading through the perldeltas and giving us >> the highlights. There was a lot of good discussion and I got some valuable >> information out of it. It was time well spent. >> >> On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:18 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: >> >> > We had so much fun last night, we forgot to arrange a December meeting. >> > Does someone want to start that discussion? (A plan for January might be >> > an idea, too.) >> >> Does anyone want to propose a venue + date for December? I haven't been >> to the socials lately, so I'm not a good person to pitch ideas. I do have >> a couple of folks who can possibly speak in 2015, but no firm commitments >> yet. If anyone would like to speak, now would be a good time. Ideally we >> could plan out our first 6 months and then not have to scramble for talks. >> >> Olaf >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> > > > > -- > Alex Beamish > Toronto, Ontario > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Thu Nov 27 13:32:17 2014 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Kwan Tamakanic) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 21:32:17 +0000 Subject: [tpm] Transcripts, samples, and future events In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Alan, very nice summary. I appreciate the graduated comments from "this looks useful" to "there be dragons", which the original deltas tend to avoid. Cheers, QM On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > We had so much fun last night, we forgot to arrange a December meeting. > Does someone want to start that discussion? (A plan for January might be > an idea, too.) > > For the benefit of those who missed last nights oratorical and technical > tour de force, I've attached transcripts,(divided like Gaul), and a couple > of sample programs. Play with the array and hash slicing introduced by > 5.20. (Run those with "perl test_array" as #! line complicates testing > multiple versions.) > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: