From mike at stok.ca Mon Feb 3 04:23:11 2014 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:23:11 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Vagrant talk on Perl TV Message-ID: <3CF9FA00-B794-405C-9ADE-165A66058539@stok.ca> I noticed in today's Perl Weekly http://perlweekly.com a talk about using Vagrant: http://perltv.org/v/continuously-integrating-perl-projects-with-vagrant . This was the tool Olaf used to automate the build of the VirtualBox machines for the metacpan at last week's talk. The first few minutes seem interesting (but now I need to clean the kitchen up, before watching the rest?) Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From legrady at gmail.com Tue Feb 18 16:48:48 2014 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:48:48 -0500 Subject: [tpm] gettip & Ovid Message-ID: http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2014/02/please-join-gittip.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Mon Feb 24 20:18:53 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:18:53 -0500 Subject: [tpm] this week's meeting Message-ID: <9FA4C9F2-9517-4286-BED2-DD3E636C9DAC@gmail.com> I've posted the details for this week's meeting on our Meetup group: http://www.meetup.com/Toronto-Perl-Mongers/events/168138352/ I'll be participating via Google Hangout this month. If you do attend the meeting and had planned to donate $20 to Mike Stok for buying the router, this would be a good time to do so. Dave Doyle also paid up front for the Meetup group and can be paid in the form of alcohol. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From jztam at yahoo.com Tue Feb 25 06:58:58 2014 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [tpm] Q: Any paying gigs for Michelle? Message-ID: <1393340338.46962.YahooMailBasic@web140301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dear Mongeren, Last year, we had the pleasure of having Michelle Warren give a custom tailored presentation to the group. I'll likely be seeing her soon, and was wondering if anyone has bothered to inquire at their firms Communications or HR departments (or equivalent) whether or not they would pay for a similarly customized workshop. Thought I'd ask out loud, since, I would love to Teflon some paid business leads back to her for all her pro bono work done for us. As a reminder, she does: communications, synergy, public speaking, leadership, coaching, mind mapping etc. and can be rediscovered at: michellewarren.ca Let me know your thoughts, and replyAll. Thanks in advance. /jordan From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 06:45:04 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:45:04 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks Message-ID: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Are now archived in our Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEbKzmmdTg I watched from home and the audio + video was great. At least it was, after the 15:00 mark, when the talks actually got started. I think we need to document our process somewhere -- maybe the github wiki, so that we can streamline how the hangout system works. On the whole, though, it was great to be able to follow along at home and Matt and Chris both did excellent jobs. It was nice to see them so well prepared. We had a fair number (maybe 11?) of others tune in to watch the hangout remotely, with one watcher as far away as Israel. So, we're expanding our reach. :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Feb 28 06:56:32 2014 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:56:32 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Blue-footed b**bies Message-ID: <3997cacc13df0329b95920fd50965fbc.squirrel@mail.vex.net> (Subject line obfuscated in case of hypersensitive mail filters.) http://bioexpedition.com/blue-footed-booby/ They stand around the Galapagos, looking bewildered. From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 06:59:56 2014 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:59:56 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Are now archived in our Youtube channel: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEbKzmmdTg I watched from home and the > audio + video was great. At least it was, after the 15:00 mark, when the > talks actually got started. > > I think we need to document our process somewhere -- maybe the github > wiki, so that we can streamline how the hangout system works. On the > whole, though, it was great to be able to follow along at home and Matt and > Chris both did excellent jobs. It was nice to see them so well prepared. > We had a fair number (maybe 11?) of others tune in to watch the hangout > remotely, with one watcher as far away as Israel. So, we're expanding our > reach. > Two things... 1/ Your count of 11 may be a little misleading because a number of us in the room were using our phones to watch... to see if the system was actually working. 2/ During that exercise, we did see that the feed onto our phones was actually about 2 minutes behind real-time. (We never bothered to figure out why.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 07:08:02 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:08:02 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2014-02-28, at 9:59 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > 1/ Your count of 11 may be a little misleading because a number of us in the room > were using our phones to watch... to see if the system was actually working. So, that's probably a little high then. I got the number from our plus page for the broadcast https://plus.google.com/u/2/events/c40ssvl0mvngv7l53k6hvj6vaho?cfem=1 It's at 12. I didn't count toperlmongers, but maybe we need to subtract a couple more from that number. > > 2/ During that exercise, we did see that the feed onto our phones was actually > about 2 minutes behind real-time. (We never bothered to figure out why.) That's interesting. For those of us at home, it wasn't an issue. :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 07:11:50 2014 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:11:50 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2014-02-28, at 9:59 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > 1/ Your count of 11 may be a little misleading because a number of us in > the room > > were using our phones to watch... to see if the system was actually > working. > > So, that's probably a little high then. I got the number from our plus > page for the broadcast > https://plus.google.com/u/2/events/c40ssvl0mvngv7l53k6hvj6vaho?cfem=1 It's at 12. I didn't count toperlmongers, but maybe we need to subtract a > couple more from that number. > > > > > 2/ During that exercise, we did see that the feed onto our phones was > actually > > about 2 minutes behind real-time. (We never bothered to figure out > why.) > > That's interesting. For those of us at home, it wasn't an issue. :) > How would you know? ...if you didn't interact with the 'live' people in the room ? we saw the presenter move or say something, and then 2 minutes later appear on the stream on our phones. (perhaps we were looking at a time-delayed version for censoring?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 07:18:58 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:18:58 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Message-ID: <13B4BA69-F0C7-44B2-8A15-192199AD9489@gmail.com> On 2014-02-28, at 10:11 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > How would you know? > ...if you didn't interact with the 'live' people in the room ? > > we saw the presenter move or say something, > and then 2 minutes later appear on the stream on our phones. > (perhaps we were looking at a time-delayed version for censoring?) I think the issue is that there are 2 ways to get the Hangout. You can participate in the Hangout or you can watch the broadcast. Actually participating in the Hangout makes it more like a conference call. There might be a tiny bit of lag, but it's generally decent. When you watch the broadcast, you're actually watching a broadcast of the conference call, so that may be buffered etc. I think there was an issue with the way the invitations are sent out. What you want to do is send invitations to participate in the conference call. There's a hard limit on participants, so once that limit is reached, I think people get bumped to the broadcast. So, the first X people can be viewed in the hangout, can ask questions, share their screens etc and everybody else can just watch. Yesterday, we all just ended up watching rather than being able to be involved. Ideally we'd want someone on the room to host the hangout and send out invitations. The first invitation goes to the speaker. Once the speaker has joined, you can send invitations to the "friends" circle of toperlmongers. Once everyone has joined, the video can start broadcasting and anyone who couldn't make it into the conference call can watch the broadcast. That would be the workflow that should allow for the maximum participation. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From tpm.ats at spamgourmet.com Fri Feb 28 07:20:38 2014 From: tpm.ats at spamgourmet.com (Antonio Sun) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:20:38 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Olaf Alders - olaf.alders at gmail.com < tpm.ats.2a1250c8d8.olaf.alders#gmail.com at ob.0sg.net> wrote: > So, that's probably a little high then. I got the number from our plus > page for the broadcast > https://plus.google.com/u/2/events/c40ssvl0mvngv7l53k6hvj6vaho?cfem=1 It's at 12. I didn't count toperlmongers, but maybe we need to subtract a > couple more from that number. > No worry, I'm sure there are people like me who are too lazy even to "follow" TPM G+ but still watched the talks. I first watched on the G+ page. I.e., when I was there, there was a video feed said stream live, and I clicked and I watched. But because it is either too small or too blur when play full screen, I later went directly to watch on youtube. Worked great. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toddr at cpanel.net Fri Feb 28 07:21:39 2014 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:21:39 -0600 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E145F45-052F-4BAB-99A3-4AB4F842B50B@cpanel.net> On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Are now archived in our Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEbKzmmdTg I watched from home and the audio + video was great. At least it was, after the 15:00 mark, when the talks actually got started. > Houston.pm has also done this with varying success. My big point of frustration is Youtube offers no way to crop the beginning to take out the getting setup noise. I ended up having to use https://metacpan.org/pod/youtube-download to pull down the mp4 at which point I could crop it locally and re-upload. Not the most ideal way to do it... Todd From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 07:23:21 2014 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:23:21 -0500 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: <6E145F45-052F-4BAB-99A3-4AB4F842B50B@cpanel.net> References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> <6E145F45-052F-4BAB-99A3-4AB4F842B50B@cpanel.net> Message-ID: On 2014-02-28, at 10:21 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > >> Are now archived in our Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEbKzmmdTg I watched from home and the audio + video was great. At least it was, after the 15:00 mark, when the talks actually got started. >> > Houston.pm has also done this with varying success. My big point of frustration is Youtube offers no way to crop the beginning to take out the getting setup noise. I ended up having to use https://metacpan.org/pod/youtube-download to pull down the mp4 at which point I could crop it locally and re-upload. Not the most ideal way to do it... I had been wondering about the best way to do that. I didn't see any tools on Youtube to crop the video. Are you still thinking of starting Hangouts.pm? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From toddr at cpanel.net Fri Feb 28 07:46:17 2014 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:46:17 -0600 Subject: [tpm] last night's talks In-Reply-To: References: <860C3CD7-3B27-4CA4-B4C7-09035EEEDD92@gmail.com> <6E145F45-052F-4BAB-99A3-4AB4F842B50B@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <9D246243-E340-44AD-A6CD-A713D0F461E3@cpanel.net> On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2014-02-28, at 10:21 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > >> On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: >> >>> Are now archived in our Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkEbKzmmdTg I watched from home and the audio + video was great. At least it was, after the 15:00 mark, when the talks actually got started. >>> >> Houston.pm has also done this with varying success. My big point of frustration is Youtube offers no way to crop the beginning to take out the getting setup noise. I ended up having to use https://metacpan.org/pod/youtube-download to pull down the mp4 at which point I could crop it locally and re-upload. Not the most ideal way to do it... > > I had been wondering about the best way to do that. I didn't see any tools on Youtube to crop the video. Are you still thinking of starting Hangouts.pm? > Yep. I just put in a request for hangouts at pm.org and I've created the G+ community here: https://plus.google.com/communities/118279607915007526266