From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Sep 7 07:12:50 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:12:50 -0400 Subject: [tpm] ... speaking of reminders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The weather has been quite calm lately. We only have 3 lightning strikes so far and we need to see a few more before we could designate it an exciting light show.! So far we have: Dave Doyle - Hierarchies in databases via DBIx::Class Chris Reuter - Five cool things about the Deck programming language Mark Jubenville - DBIx::Class::AuditLog So come on people... I know you are all smart AND entertaining. Just invent something to talk about, and submit your additional rants ^H^H^H^H^H presentations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Sep 7 07:31:15 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:31:15 -0400 Subject: [tpm] transparently detecting when a file goes missing Message-ID: Since the list has been quiet lately, I thought I'd ask the brilliant minds for a suggestion. ...logging... [ and yes I know about all the mega-logging frameworks, but ...] To add simple logging simply, to my app, I decided to close and reopen STDOUT and STDERR pointing at a log file at the start of my app. This enables me to simply print and have stuff captured without having the overhead of a framework. close STDOUT; open STDOUT, ">>", "$filename"; STDOUT->autoflush(1); ... print "log this\n"; This technique works great until someone/something comes along and (re)moves the log file out from under me (like logrotate). My logging is still happening, but to the original file, and not the 'new' (empty) file. Since I never re-open the file, my information isn't going where I expect it to. If I open/write/close on every message it would work right, but then my simple approach of catching prints doesn't. Is there some magic way to detect this occurrence and auto-reopen the 'new' file? [Something like tie'ing to a handle's output functionality and so it could open/print/close everytime instead.] TIA Fulko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indy at indigostar.com Fri Sep 7 08:08:07 2012 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:08:07 -0400 Subject: [tpm] transparently detecting when a file goes missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you answered the question yourself. Tie the filehandle to your package and in the PRINT handler do the open/print/close. The docs can be found here: http://perldoc.perl.org/perltie.html#Tying-FileHandles Here is an example: tie *STDOUT, Shout; print "aaa\n"; package Shout; sub TIEHANDLE { my $i; bless \$i, shift } sub PRINT { my $fh; open $fh, ">>out.txt"; $r = shift; $$r++; print $fh @_; close $fh; } Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From: Fulko Hew Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:31 AM To: TPM Subject: [tpm] transparently detecting when a file goes missing Since the list has been quiet lately, I thought I'd ask the brilliant minds for a suggestion. ...logging... [ and yes I know about all the mega-logging frameworks, but ...] To add simple logging simply, to my app, I decided to close and reopen STDOUT and STDERR pointing at a log file at the start of my app. This enables me to simply print and have stuff captured without having the overhead of a framework. close STDOUT; open STDOUT, ">>", "$filename"; STDOUT->autoflush(1); ... print "log this\n"; This technique works great until someone/something comes along and (re)moves the log file out from under me (like logrotate). My logging is still happening, but to the original file, and not the 'new' (empty) file. Since I never re-open the file, my information isn't going where I expect it to. If I open/write/close on every message it would work right, but then my simple approach of catching prints doesn't. Is there some magic way to detect this occurrence and auto-reopen the 'new' file? [Something like tie'ing to a handle's output functionality and so it could open/print/close everytime instead.] TIA Fulko -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fulko.hew at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 13:20:55 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:20:55 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Last call for lightning strikes Message-ID: Just another reminder/request for people to come up with an amusing or interesting or ... short talk for our upcoming lightning session next week. If you come up with an idea... post it to the list. Unfortunately, I can't make it to the meeting this month and Alan Rocker will be this year's host and moderator. 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URL: From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Sep 19 13:47:00 2012 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:47:00 -0400 Subject: [tpm] toronto perl jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <505A2F44.6090301@stemsystems.com> hi all, i have several leads for perl jobs with a new client in the toronto area. they are a large web site and growing rapidly. skills wanted are perl and the usual web skill suspects. work is onsite and pay is up to $100k canadian on salary with benefits. if you are interested send me your resume in PDF and perl code samples to PDF at Perlhunter.com. thanx, uri http://PerlHunter.com From jkeen at verizon.net Wed Sep 19 17:24:19 2012 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:24:19 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Last call for lightning strikes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <505A6233.7020001@verizon.net> On 9/19/12 4:20 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: > Just another reminder/request for people to come up with > an amusing or interesting or ... > short talk for our upcoming lightning session next week. > > If you come up with an idea... post it to the list. > > Unfortunately, I can't make it to the meeting this month > and Alan Rocker will be this year's host and moderator. > I have a lightning talk which I presented at the DC-Baltimore Perl Workshop in April of this year: "10 Questions about C Programmers". I don't have to be present in Toronto to give it, because it's completely self-contained. All that is needed is someone with a Mac to press the "Run Slideshow" button in a Keynote slide presentation. If you would like this, let me know whom to send the Keynote file to. (It's too big to send to a mailing list.) Thank you very much. Jim Keenan From mike at stok.ca Thu Sep 20 05:26:47 2012 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:26:47 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Last call for lightning strikes In-Reply-To: <505A6233.7020001@verizon.net> References: <505A6233.7020001@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I can run that if nobody else has claimed it. Mike On 2012-09-19, at 8:24 PM, James E Keenan wrote: > On 9/19/12 4:20 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: >> Just another reminder/request for people to come up with >> an amusing or interesting or ... >> short talk for our upcoming lightning session next week. >> >> If you come up with an idea... post it to the list. >> >> Unfortunately, I can't make it to the meeting this month >> and Alan Rocker will be this year's host and moderator. >> > > I have a lightning talk which I presented at the DC-Baltimore Perl Workshop in April of this year: "10 Questions about C Programmers". > > I don't have to be present in Toronto to give it, because it's completely self-contained. All that is needed is someone with a Mac to press the "Run Slideshow" button in a Keynote slide presentation. > > If you would like this, let me know whom to send the Keynote file to. (It's too big to send to a mailing list.) > > Thank you very much. > Jim Keenan > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From olaf.alders at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 06:42:27 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:42:27 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 Message-ID: Hi Everyone, This is just a reminder that the next meeting is this week on Thursday, Sept 27th. It's Lightning Talks, which is always one of the more popular meetings. It's also a great introduction for people who haven't been out to a meeting yet, so if you haven't been out yet (or lately), please come on out. Feel free to pass on an invite to colleagues or co-workers who might be interested in coming as well. We'll get started around 6:45 as usual, I suppose. Does anyone have the room details yet? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From jztam at yahoo.com Tue Sep 25 07:51:31 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1348584691.52636.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Awaiting responses from: 1.? Free Times Cafe.?? 320 College St / Major?? NE Spadina/College. ????? This licenced, cozy geekSpace seems to be available right now.. but need a???? confirmation from the O/O. 2.? Ryerson.? Caught in administrative purgatory right now... don't hold your breath on getting an OFFICIAL booking.? ;-)? /jordan --- On Tue, 9/25/12, Olaf Alders wrote: From: Olaf Alders Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 To: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:42 AM Hi Everyone, This is just a reminder that the next meeting is this week on Thursday, Sept 27th.? It's Lightning Talks, which is always one of the more popular meetings.? It's also a great introduction for people who haven't been out to a meeting yet, so if you haven't been out yet (or lately), please come on out.? Feel free to pass on an invite to colleagues or co-workers who might be interested in coming as well. We'll get started around 6:45 as usual, I suppose.? Does anyone have the room details yet? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Tue Sep 25 12:42:29 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 In-Reply-To: <1348584691.52636.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348602149.36869.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dear mongeren, PREAMBLE:??? need a ballpark headcount.. so I'll send a separate mail out for rollcall. ? Since our normal location is not available this week... this Thursday's? Speed Talks will be held a few minutes EARLIER, 6:30pm to 8:15pm at ??? The Free Times Cafe (BACK ROOM).?? 320 College St,? Toronto, Ont.? M5T-1S3 https://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+college+st,+toronto+on&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.357162,75.058594&hnear=320+College+St,+Toronto,+Toronto+Division,+Ontario+M5S+2K3,+Canada&t=m&z=16 >From Spadina Ave and College St,? the Cafe is NorthEast of the intersection. Walk 1.5 blocks West, and look for the round signage on the North Side of College St. As you enter,? veer left along the bar and head all the way to the Back Room. TIME: 6:30pm to 8:15pm? We WILL be getting evicted from the back room at 8:15pm by the musicians needing to setup their equipment.? If there is anyone who cannot make the 6:30pm start time by planning ahead on Wednesday... please SPEAK UP now.? We will gladly move back? the start time for our beloved outliers, if we hear from them. ;-) AMENITIES:? Rollup screen for projector. No microphone, so talk loud. :-)? TOPICS: Speed Talks MC: Alan Rocker SPEAKERS: Lots. OVERLOADED OPERATORS:? It's a BAR!!!!? Please ORDER at least one beverage when you arrive, or more than one after the talks.? Food is pretty tasty and varied... check the Jewish/MiddleEastern/Canadiana menu: http://www.freetimescafe.com/pages/menu.htm --- On Tue, 9/25/12, J Z Tam wrote: From: J Z Tam Subject: Re: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 To: toronto-pm at pm.org, "Olaf Alders" Received: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 10:51 AM Awaiting responses from: 1.? Free Times Cafe.?? 320 College St / Major?? NE Spadina/College. ????? This licenced, cozy geekSpace seems to be available right now.. but need a???? confirmation from the O/O. 2.? Ryerson.? Caught in administrative purgatory right now... don't hold your breath on getting an OFFICIAL booking.? ;-)? /jordan --- On Tue, 9/25/12, Olaf Alders wrote: From: Olaf Alders Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 To: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:42 AM Hi Everyone, This is just a reminder that the next meeting is this week on Thursday, Sept 27th.? It's Lightning Talks, which is always one of the more popular meetings.? It's also a great introduction for people who haven't been out to a meeting yet, so if you haven't been out yet (or lately), please come on out.? Feel free to pass on an invite to colleagues or co-workers who might be interested in coming as well. We'll get started around 6:45 as usual, I suppose.? Does anyone have the room details yet? 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Alan Rocker From stuart at morungos.com Tue Sep 25 17:55:12 2012 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:55:12 -0400 Subject: [tpm] ROLLCALL: Thursday, Sept 27 Free Times Cafe 320 College 6:30-8:15 In-Reply-To: <8a4273866832fad27acc36eab894353b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <1348584691.52636.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1348602242.1936.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8a4273866832fad27acc36eab894353b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <61E9EFA7-8C7C-45AA-A738-71D3E7BCF1A2@morungos.com> Not to be unconventional, but please sign up and bottom post: 1. jordan tam 2. matt phillips 3. Mike Stok 4. Dave Doyle 5. William Muriithi 6. Alan Rocker 7. Stuart Watt From jkeen at verizon.net Tue Sep 25 18:03:57 2012 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:03:57 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 In-Reply-To: <1348602149.36869.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348602149.36869.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5062547D.2010502@verizon.net> On 9/25/12 3:42 PM, J Z Tam wrote: > Dear mongeren, > PREAMBLE: need a ballpark headcount.. so I'll send a separate mail out for rollcall. If I am at home Thursday evening, I will try to hang out on ircperlorg #tpm, both to hear comments on the lightning talk I will vicariously present and to hear all the play-by-play action. At the moment oalders is the only other Torontonian hanging out on channel, so ask him for instructions on how to get on IRC. :-) > > Since our normal location is not available this week... > this Thursday's Speed Talks will be held a few minutes EARLIER, 6:30pm to 8:15pm at > > The Free Times Cafe (BACK ROOM). 320 College St, Toronto, Ont. M5T-1S3 > > > check the Jewish/MiddleEastern/Canadiana menu: Now how in all the years I've been coming to Toronto did I miss that indigenous cuisine?? Jim Keenan From olaf.alders at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 18:34:30 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:34:30 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Next meeting: Thursday, Sept 27 In-Reply-To: <5062547D.2010502@verizon.net> References: <1348602149.36869.YahooMailClassic@web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5062547D.2010502@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 2012-09-25, at 9:03 PM, James E Keenan wrote: > On 9/25/12 3:42 PM, J Z Tam wrote: >> Dear mongeren, >> PREAMBLE: need a ballpark headcount.. so I'll send a separate mail out for rollcall. > > If I am at home Thursday evening, I will try to hang out on ircperlorg #tpm, both to hear comments on the lightning talk I will vicariously present and to hear all the play-by-play action. > > At the moment oalders is the only other Torontonian hanging out on channel, so ask him for instructions on how to get on IRC. :-) Yeah, it's seriously lonely on that channel. Adam Prime idles there too as does Matt occasionally. > >> >> Since our normal location is not available this week... >> this Thursday's Speed Talks will be held a few minutes EARLIER, 6:30pm to 8:15pm at >> >> The Free Times Cafe (BACK ROOM). 320 College St, Toronto, Ont. M5T-1S3 >> > >> >> check the Jewish/MiddleEastern/Canadiana menu: > > Now how in all the years I've been coming to Toronto did I miss that indigenous cuisine?? Not sure if you're missing anything. ;) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From olaf.alders at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 18:35:14 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:35:14 -0400 Subject: [tpm] ROLLCALL: Thursday, Sept 27 Free Times Cafe 320 College 6:30-8:15 In-Reply-To: <61E9EFA7-8C7C-45AA-A738-71D3E7BCF1A2@morungos.com> References: <1348584691.52636.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1348602242.1936.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8a4273866832fad27acc36eab894353b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> <61E9EFA7-8C7C-45AA-A738-71D3E7BCF1A2@morungos.com> Message-ID: Not to be unconventional, but please sign up and bottom post: 1. jordan tam 2. matt phillips 3. Mike Stok 4. Dave Doyle 5. William Muriithi 6. Alan Rocker 7. Stuart Watt 8. Olaf Alders -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From Henry.Baragar at Instantiated.Ca Wed Sep 26 18:57:17 2012 From: Henry.Baragar at Instantiated.Ca (Henry Baragar) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:57:17 -0400 Subject: [tpm] ROLLCALL: Thursday, Sept 27 Free Times Cafe 320 College 6:30-8:15 In-Reply-To: References: <1348584691.52636.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1348602242.1936.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8a4273866832fad27acc36eab894353b.squirrel@mail.vex.net> <61E9EFA7-8C7C-45AA-A738-71D3E7BCF1A2@morungos.com> Message-ID: <5063B27D.306@Instantiated.Ca> Not to be unconventional, but please sign up and bottom post: 1. jordan tam 2. matt phillips 3. Mike Stok 4. Dave Doyle 5. William Muriithi 6. Alan Rocker 7. Stuart Watt 8. Olaf Alders 9. 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Thanks Stuart! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jztam at yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 11:20:24 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. Message-ID: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Chris Browne has graciously agreed to present a talk on Postgres.? He asked for scope in the way of? Top Ten questions.? Give or take. 1. 3. 5. 7. 9. Feeling Odd today. /jordan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobby.lopez at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 12:42:47 2012 From: bobby.lopez at gmail.com (J. Bobby Lopez) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:42:47 -0400 Subject: [tpm] DBIx::Class, DBD::Sybase, and statement caching Message-ID: Anyone using DBD::Sybase (1.14) via DBIx::Class (0.08198), and ran into this error?: "error" : "Warning caught during route execution: DBIx::Class::ResultSet::first(): Your DBD::Sybase was compiled against buggy FreeTDS version 0.91. Statement caching does not work and will be disabled. I'm using FreeTDS 0.91 because 0.82 has an 80 character limit in varchar values that can be submitted to the database. Anything over 80 chars gets truncated. (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/freetds/2011q2/026943.html) I'm hoping that 'disabling statement caching' doesn't mean a setting that has to be done at the database level, because it is a shared database server, and this would likely affect other applications/databases. Thoughts? Thanks, -Bobby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobby.lopez at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 15:43:45 2012 From: bobby.lopez at gmail.com (J. Bobby Lopez) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:43:45 -0400 Subject: [tpm] DBIx::Class, DBD::Sybase, and statement caching In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just an update for anyone who may come across this later on.. FreeTDS 0.91 is indeed way too buggy, so instead of using a new version, I just patched FreeTDS 0.82 according to this ( http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/freetds/2011q2/026925.html), recompiled, and now it seems to be working the way I want. -Bobby On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, J. Bobby Lopez wrote: > Anyone using DBD::Sybase (1.14) via DBIx::Class (0.08198), and ran into > this error?: > > "error" : "Warning caught during route execution: DBIx::Class::ResultSet::first(): Your DBD::Sybase was compiled against buggy FreeTDS version 0.91. Statement caching does not work and will be disabled. > > > I'm using FreeTDS 0.91 because 0.82 has an 80 character limit in varchar > values that can be submitted to the database. Anything over 80 chars gets > truncated. (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/freetds/2011q2/026943.html) > > > I'm hoping that 'disabling statement caching' doesn't mean a setting that > has to be done at the database level, because it is a shared database > server, and this would likely affect other applications/databases. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > -Bobby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From legrady at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 16:48:38 2012 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:48:38 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. In-Reply-To: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What an odd set of questions On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM, J Z Tam wrote: > Chris Browne has graciously agreed to present a talk on Postgres. He > asked for scope in the way of Top Ten questions. Give or take. > > 1. > 3. > 5. > 7. > 9. > > Feeling Odd today. > /jordan > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Sat Sep 29 10:37:52 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:37:52 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. In-Reply-To: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Some random suggestions to provoke debate: Who's using PG? (Names that we would recognise.) Assuming that your problem requires a relational database, why Postgres vs a) MySQl b) Oracle c) SQLServer d) Any other competitor I've forgotten? (Capabilities/strengths/weaknesses)? Which OS support PG? How would Perl fit in a PG environments? Invoking PG, querying, stored procedures? Which is the definitive book on PG? What other documentation is available? Where do you get PG. How complex is it to install? From fulko.hew at gmail.com Sat Sep 29 11:48:10 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:48:10 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. In-Reply-To: <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: How to migrate from mydql to pgs? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.muriithi at gmail.com Sat Sep 29 13:08:46 2012 From: william.muriithi at gmail.com (William Muriithi) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:08:46 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. In-Reply-To: <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: > > Who's using PG? (Names that we would recognise.) Why is postgres not as widely used as MySQL despite being equally capable? Does postgres support master master setup for redundancy? How does postgres instrumentation infrastructure compare to those of oracle and MySQL? William > > Assuming that your problem requires a relational database, why Postgres vs > > a) MySQl > b) Oracle > c) SQLServer > d) Any other competitor I've forgotten? > > (Capabilities/strengths/weaknesses)? > > Which OS support PG? > > How would Perl fit in a PG environments? Invoking PG, querying, stored > procedures? > > Which is the definitive book on PG? What other documentation is available? > > Where do you get PG. How complex is it to install? > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeen at verizon.net Sat Sep 29 17:29:51 2012 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:29:51 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Postgres talk coming up. Top ten questions please. In-Reply-To: <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <1348856424.95743.YahooMailClassic@web120903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5e3ad86e4bb15e32ad1502c49e875300.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: <5067927F.2070600@verizon.net> On 9/29/12 1:37 PM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > Some random suggestions to provoke debate: > > Who's using PG? (Names that we would recognise.) > Jim Keenan! Which occurs because my somewhat recently new day job in NYC uses Postgres. I have no prior experience with it, but colleagues in the Parrot project speak well of it. > Assuming that your problem requires a relational database, why Postgres vs > > a) MySQl > b) Oracle $$$ > c) SQLServer $$$ > d) Any other competitor I've forgotten? > > (Capabilities/strengths/weaknesses)? > > Which OS support PG? > I suspect the riposte would be: Which doesn't? > How would Perl fit in a PG environments? Invoking PG, querying, stored > procedures? > DBI -- I finally have a chance to learn it in a practical way. > Which is the definitive book on PG? What other documentation is available? > I consult the online documentation every day. It is considerably better than that of most OS projects. > Where do you get PG. How complex is it to install? > You download it :-) But I'll let others speak to whether installation is complex or not.