From arocker at Vex.Net Sat Aug 4 13:15:09 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:15:09 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me Message-ID: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Did anybody get the joke in Friday's http://xkcd.com/1090/ xkcd? From fulko.hew at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 13:21:06 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:21:06 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me In-Reply-To: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:15 PM, wrote: > > Did anybody get the joke in Friday's http://xkcd.com/1090/ xkcd? > Not sure, but a mouseover revealed the following hidden caption/titlte... Does it help you? because it didn't help me. [audience looks around] 'What just happened?' 'There must be some context we're missing.' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbl at jbldata.com Sat Aug 4 14:52:51 2012 From: jbl at jbldata.com (J. Bobby Lopez) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 17:52:51 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me In-Reply-To: References: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: I have a feeling it has something to do with context-sensitive grammer (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-sensitive_grammar) and formal languages, and possibly that we (the audience) are the context. That's my best guess. -Bobby On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:15 PM, wrote: > >> >> Did anybody get the joke in Friday's http://xkcd.com/1090/ xkcd? >> > > Not sure, but a mouseover revealed the following hidden caption/titlte... > Does it help you? because it didn't help me. > > > [audience looks around] 'What just happened?' 'There must be some context we're missing.' > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indy at indigostar.com Sat Aug 4 17:28:56 2012 From: indy at indigostar.com (Indy Singh) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:28:56 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me In-Reply-To: References: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: Close. I just googled it: Source: http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Formal_Languages Megan is standing at the podium of the 10th Annual Symposium on Formal Languages (as per the banner behind her). Cueball crashes in through a glass pane and shouts "GRAMMAR!" and dashes off. Megan remains at the podium looking perplexed. This is a reference to the phrase context-free grammar, which is a technical term used in formal language theory. The play on words is that Cueball does not provide any context for his statement. Indy Singh IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com From: J. Bobby Lopez Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:52 PM To: Fulko Hew Cc: Unix Unanimous ; Toronto PerlMongers Subject: Re: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me I have a feeling it has something to do with context-sensitive grammer (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-sensitive_grammar) and formal languages, and possibly that we (the audience) are the context. That's my best guess. -Bobby On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:15 PM, wrote: Did anybody get the joke in Friday's http://xkcd.com/1090/ xkcd? Not sure, but a mouseover revealed the following hidden caption/titlte... Does it help you? because it didn't help me. [audience looks around] 'What just happened?' 'There must be some context we're missing.' _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From legrady at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 20:31:15 2012 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 23:31:15 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me In-Reply-To: References: <8c431d254bf4f56a14bc9658cc2bc9ec.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: If you hover your cursor on the image, the tooltip says, "[audience looks around] 'What just happened? There must be some context we're missing.'" But it does seem to be stretching things, humour value is limited. On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Indy Singh wrote: > Close. I just googled it: > > Source: > http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Formal_Languages > > Megan is standing > at the podium of the 10th Annual Symposium on Formal Languages (as per the > banner behind her). Cueballcrashes in through a glass pane and shouts "GRAMMAR!" and dashes off. > Megan remains at > the podium looking perplexed. > > This is a reference to the phrase context-free grammar, > which is a technical term used in formal languagetheory. The play on words is that > Cueball does > not provide any context for his statement. > > Indy Singh > IndigoSTAR Software -- www.indigostar.com > > *From:* J. Bobby Lopez > *Sent:* Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:52 PM > *To:* Fulko Hew > *Cc:* Unix Unanimous ; Toronto PerlMongers > *Subject:* Re: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me > > I have a feeling it has something to do with context-sensitive grammer > (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-sensitive_grammar) and formal > languages, and possibly that we (the audience) are the context. > > That's my best guess. > > -Bobby > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:15 PM, wrote: >> >>> >>> Did anybody get the joke in Friday's http://xkcd.com/1090/ xkcd? >>> >> >> Not sure, but a mouseover revealed the following hidden caption/titlte... >> Does it help you? because it didn't help me. >> >> >> [audience looks around] 'What just happened?' 'There must be some context we're missing.' >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm >> >> > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Sun Aug 5 06:58:22 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:58:22 -0400 Subject: [tpm] A tad too subtle for me Message-ID: <268dee4cfefb6f4b19b9fcea2a5900f8.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Thanks to everybody for pointing out the hover-tag about lack of context, (which didn't stop him from running anyway). A particular thanks to Indy, who pointed at http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki which will save me having to make such humiliating inquiries in future. From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 06:29:56 2012 From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:29:56 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Reconsider Beer Location Message-ID: Hello all, Perhaps, in light of this, we might want to reconsider our place of imbibement post-meeting: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1243006--pub-reopens-after-roach-infestation In other news, wife and baby are away during the next meeting and I can have beer.... uh... talk about Perl with you guys. D -- dave.s.doyle at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattp at cpan.org Fri Aug 17 06:50:50 2012 From: mattp at cpan.org (Matthew Phillips) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:50:50 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Reconsider Beer Location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Blargh, seconded. Never going back there again. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Dave Doyle wrote: > Hello all, > > Perhaps, in light of this, we might want to reconsider our place of > imbibement post-meeting: > > > http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1243006--pub-reopens-after-roach-infestation > > In other news, wife and baby are away during the next meeting and I can > have beer.... uh... talk about Perl with you guys. > > D > -- > dave.s.doyle at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes. but what about in two weeks? :) -- dave.s.doyle at gmail.com On 17 August 2012 10:17, wrote: > > > Perhaps, in light of this, we might want to reconsider our place of > > imbibement post-meeting: > > > > What's the problem? Assuming that Toronto Pravda is telling the truth for > once, they've cleaned the place. You didn't notice any problems before, so > why worry now? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 07:35:44 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:35:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Reconsider Beer Location In-Reply-To: References: <5eca111516cf863e65e9e68576836e5a.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On 2012-08-17, at 10:22 AM, Dave Doyle wrote: > It speaks more to the culture of the place to me Alan. :) > > Clean NOW. Yes. but what about in two weeks? :) > -- > dave.s.doyle at gmail.com Well, if you're going to eat there, right after the inspection is probably a good time to go. :) Can't say the news actually *surprised* me. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Aug 17 07:43:08 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:43:08 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Reconsider Beer Location In-Reply-To: References: <5eca111516cf863e65e9e68576836e5a.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: Maybe we should have a discussion on optimum hygiene strategies, as applied to immune systems, watering-holes and computer networks? They have a lot in common, and zero-threat maintenance is not optimal. (One of my cousins was a cook in places like the House of Commons restaurant, and he had some horror stories to tell about that and other prestigious troughs.) From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 07:58:04 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:58:04 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks Message-ID: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> Hi Everyone, September is lightning talks, so that's covered. Who is speaking this month? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From stuart at morungos.com Fri Aug 17 08:06:12 2012 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:06:12 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> Message-ID: I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl - but that'll only take about 10 minutes It does seem appropriate under the circumstances. https://github.com/zdennis/drunken-cockroach --S On 2012-08-17, at 10:58 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > September is lightning talks, so that's covered. 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Message-ID: <2EF48C14-8646-47BE-9D44-143AF715903C@morungos.com> Actually, I'll scale that up to a half session on the Perl Data Language (PDL) if anyone's interested. So, drunken cockroaches *and* data in Perl. --S On 2012-08-17, at 11:07 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2012-08-17, at 11:06 AM, Stuart Watt wrote: > >> I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl - but that'll only take about 10 minutes >> >> It does seem appropriate under the circumstances. >> >> https://github.com/zdennis/drunken-cockroach > > +1 > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf.alders at gmail.com > > http://www.wundercounter.com > http://twitter.com/wundercounter > > 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) > 416 944 8306 (direct) > From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 08:36:00 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:36:00 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Lightning season approaches Message-ID: As I was just reminded... September is 'lightning season', so we'll need a number of brief talks about... whatever. You can have 5 minutes, you can have 10 minutes. ... you could just ramble, but I'll be forced to 'get out the hook' if you do. As always... please submit the titles of your brief sessions to me, your host and organizer for the evening. Fulko From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Aug 17 08:59:17 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:59:17 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> Message-ID: > I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl Please do; it sounds fun. 10 minutes is a perfect Lightning Talk. From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 08:59:24 2012 From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:59:24 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Lightning season approaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Title: Hierarchies in databases via DBIx::Class (5 minutes) (quick look at DBIx::Class::Tree::NestedSet and DBIx::Class::Tree::AdjacencyList) I reserve the right to request another slot for another subject. :D -- dave.s.doyle at gmail.com On 17 August 2012 11:36, Fulko Hew wrote: > As I was just reminded... > > September is 'lightning season', so we'll need a number of brief talks > about... whatever. You can have 5 minutes, you can have 10 minutes. > ... you could just ramble, but I'll be forced to 'get out the hook' if you > do. > > As always... please submit the titles of your brief sessions > to me, your host and organizer for the evening. > > Fulko > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 09:03:03 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:03:03 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2012-08-17, at 11:59 AM, arocker at Vex.Net wrote: > >> I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl > > Please do; it sounds fun. 10 minutes is a perfect Lightning Talk. I believe this is for the month *before* lightning talks. :) -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From jztam at yahoo.com Fri Aug 17 09:29:54 2012 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1345220994.18454.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks all for self-organizing.? Other addictions taking up time. Aug: Windows Stacks - Stuart.W iirc,? drunken-cockroach - Stuart.W,? ?? Others ?? Sept: Lightning Talks Oct: pinto - Matt.P Nov: Jobs, careers.? Please vote up/down this topic, thanks. Dec:? ??? oratory and presenting skills perhaps? /j --- On Fri, 8/17/12, Stuart Watt wrote: From: Stuart Watt Subject: Re: [tpm] this month's talks To: "Olaf Alders" Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org Received: Friday, August 17, 2012, 11:06 AM I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl - but that'll only take about 10 minutes It does seem appropriate under the circumstances.? https://github.com/zdennis/drunken-cockroach --S On 2012-08-17, at 10:58 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: Hi Everyone, September is lightning talks, so that's covered. ?Who is speaking this month? 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URL: From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Fri Aug 17 11:00:05 2012 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (Adam Prime) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:00:05 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: <1345220994.18454.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345220994.18454.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <502E86A5.5050402@utoronto.ca> December is traditionally just a social. i know cause it's been the only thing I've made it out to for two years in a row now. maybe one day. Adam On 12-08-17 12:29 PM, J Z Tam wrote: > Thanks all for self-organizing. Other addictions taking up time. > > Aug: Windows Stacks - Stuart.W iirc, drunken-cockroach - Stuart.W, ?? > Others ?? > > Sept: Lightning Talks > > Oct: pinto - Matt.P > > Nov: Jobs, careers. Please vote up/down this topic, thanks. > > Dec: ??? oratory and presenting skills perhaps? > > /j > --- On *Fri, 8/17/12, Stuart Watt //* wrote: > > > From: Stuart Watt > Subject: Re: [tpm] this month's talks > To: "Olaf Alders" > Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org > Received: Friday, August 17, 2012, 11:06 AM > > I could do a brief version of the drunken cockroach problem in Perl > - but that'll only take about 10 minutes > > It does seem appropriate under the circumstances. > > https://github.com/zdennis/drunken-cockroach > > --S > > On 2012-08-17, at 10:58 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> September is lightning talks, so that's covered. Who is speaking >> this month? >> >> Olaf >> -- >> Olaf Alders >> olaf.alders at gmail.com >> >> http://www.wundercounter.com >> http://twitter.com/wundercounter >> >> 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) >> 416 944 8306 (direct) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > From olaf.alders at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 11:01:50 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:01:50 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: <502E86A5.5050402@utoronto.ca> References: <1345220994.18454.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <502E86A5.5050402@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <1A29CD13-1EBF-480E-B561-7F48477CA5A1@gmail.com> On 2012-08-17, at 2:00 PM, Adam Prime wrote: > December is traditionally just a social. i know cause it's been the only thing I've made it out to for two years in a row now. > > maybe one day. > > Adam > So what will it take to get you out to the next meeting? Do we need to send you a driver? :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Aug 17 12:11:30 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:11:30 -0400 Subject: [tpm] this month's talks In-Reply-To: <502E86A5.5050402@utoronto.ca> References: <1345220994.18454.YahooMailClassic@web120905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <502E86A5.5050402@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <23af1a23adb9e74c783f4c5366594682.squirrel@mail.vex.net> > December is traditionally just a social. And this year the last Thursday of December is the 27th., 2 days after Christmas, so I think the tradition should be maintained. From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Aug 17 12:57:23 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:57:23 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Talk topics In-Reply-To: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e63a159b11ac101fd5314917c30d360.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Is anybody in the group an expert on HTML 5, CSS, and their proper use? With the plethora of environments rearing up (and then suddenly dying), write-once, run anywhere code would seem like a good idea, and I'd like to know what's practical. From psema4 at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 13:03:27 2012 From: psema4 at gmail.com (Scott Elcomb) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:03:27 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Talk topics In-Reply-To: <7e63a159b11ac101fd5314917c30d360.squirrel@mail.vex.net> References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> <7e63a159b11ac101fd5314917c30d360.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:57 PM, wrote: > > Is anybody in the group an expert on HTML 5, CSS, and their proper use? What constitutes "proper use?" The last several contracts I've taken were all HTML5 and/or JavaScript related. I'm also working on Pine, an open source project to turn the Raspberry Pi into an HTML5 gaming console . > With the plethora of environments rearing up (and then suddenly dying), > write-once, run anywhere code would seem like a good idea, and I'd like to > know what's practical. As with proper use, I'm not sure I follow your meaning for "practical." In what regards (besides write-one, run everywhere)? -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github & more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ From arocker at Vex.Net Fri Aug 17 14:02:19 2012 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:02:19 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Talk topics In-Reply-To: References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> <7e63a159b11ac101fd5314917c30d360.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: >> >> Is anybody in the group an expert on HTML 5, CSS, and their proper use? > > What constitutes "proper use?" Use that makes sense from an engineering viewpoint. That's usually what the inventors intended, though really good concepts tend to get adapted in unexpected ways. (Like Perl.) On the other hand, I'm sure we've all seen the software equivalent of Rube Goldberg machines; just read "The Daily WTF" http://thedailywtf.com/ for gruesome examples. No paradigm, no matter how clear and elegant it may be, is immune from perversion by the ignorant or half-witted. E.g. 10 identical things could be stored in $x1, $x2 .... $x10, or @x. Which is "proper use"? > As with proper use, I'm not sure I follow your meaning for "practical." The human interface for a CNC machine would probably be practical in HTML 5; I'm not so sure about actually controlling the machine itself. From olaf.alders at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 08:44:22 2012 From: olaf.alders at gmail.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:44:22 -0400 Subject: [tpm] new site Message-ID: <913D1177-7C65-4849-997F-A29D85BB2525@gmail.com> Hi Jordan, What's the status on changing DNS to the new TPM site? If you're busy, feel free to delegate. :) Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From talexb at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 18:25:44 2012 From: talexb at gmail.com (Alex Beamish) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:25:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] MongoDB .. eventually Message-ID: Hi guys, I had volunteered to give a talk on MongoDB in August, but my personal life has sucked up so much of my time I haven't been able to adequately prepare something for next Thursday, so I'd like to punt that to September, when I'll make a lightning talk out of it. I may or may not be able to make the August meeting -- the City of Toronto has decreed that water meters are being upgraded, and That's My Day to stay home from 4pm-8pm (their definition of an 'evening appointment') and wait for the service man. I still have swag from YAPC::NA (Linode cards) which I will try, try, try to bring out. Hope theyre still valid. Cheers, Alex From psema4 at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 12:27:02 2012 From: psema4 at gmail.com (Scott Elcomb) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:27:02 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Talk topics In-Reply-To: References: <89034718-6804-47A7-90FF-70819B70C057@gmail.com> <7e63a159b11ac101fd5314917c30d360.squirrel@mail.vex.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Is anybody in the group an expert on HTML 5, CSS, and their proper use? >> >> What constitutes "proper use?" > > Use that makes sense from an engineering viewpoint. That's usually what > the inventors intended, though really good concepts tend to get adapted in > unexpected ways. (Like Perl.) Fair enough. >> As with proper use, I'm not sure I follow your meaning for "practical." > > The human interface for a CNC machine would probably be practical in HTML > 5; I'm not so sure about actually controlling the machine itself. Controlling the machine itself with an HTML5 interface is indeed possible - I'm currently working with a team at Texas Instruments to do exactly this (not CNC specifically, but circuits in general). I'm not sure it can be done entirely client side unless/until the HTML5 Gamepad API gets force feedback or some other form of output support; should that happen, I think a server-less tool would also be possible. I'd be happy to put something together for the group, though I don't think I'd be able to make it out before November at the earliest. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github & more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ From stuart at morungos.com Fri Aug 31 08:14:03 2012 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:14:03 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Last night Message-ID: <7AE75AB6-83D7-4F88-B2E9-40D638936C09@morungos.com> For anyone that's interested, the code for last night's stuff -- unfixed for now -- is at: https://github.com/morungos/p5-Acme-DrunkenCockroach. At some time, I'll finish commenting/documenting it, and push to CPAN. The slides themselves are at: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/51478659/CockroachTalk/assets/fallback/index.html for now All the best Stuart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That's my failing for not marking it in the calendar, but I think in the back of my mind I was waiting for the meeting reminders that Mike used to post earlier in the week of a meeting. Should we maybe formalize that so that we don't lose forgetful people? If nobody wants to take it, I'm happy to take that on, actually, as it will force me to mark it on my calendar going forward. Best, Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf.alders at gmail.com http://www.wundercounter.com http://twitter.com/wundercounter 866 503 2204 (Toll free - North America) 416 944 8306 (direct) From fulko.hew at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 09:31:39 2012 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:31:39 -0400 Subject: [tpm] ... speaking of reminders Message-ID: Speaking of reminders ... September is 'lightning time', and we need more presenters! So dust off those old ideas, or come up with something to rant about for five minutes... and send me your submission titles. 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