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It would be interesting to hear from someone with hands-on experience. From arocker at Vex.Net Wed Nov 9 15:06:21 2011 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:06:21 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Still looking for ideas for November In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 2) Any ideas for a place to organise the December social? No idea about place, but a question about timing. This year, Christmas is on a Sunday, New Years on Saturday, so the last Thursday of the month is in the middle, Instead of having an event early, might that be a good evening to hold it? From legrady at gmail.com Wed Nov 9 15:28:32 2011 From: legrady at gmail.com (Tom Legrady) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:28:32 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Still looking for ideas for November In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds good to me, though I imagine some people are busy or going away. I will look forwad to a pause in the eating and drinking, so I can .... eat and drink On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM, wrote: > > > 2) Any ideas for a place to organise the December social? > > No idea about place, but a question about timing. This year, Christmas is > on a Sunday, New Years on Saturday, so the last Thursday of the month is > in the middle, Instead of having an event early, might that be a good > evening to hold it? > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Sun Nov 13 07:32:58 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:32:58 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Quiet on the TPM mailing list - are you using the correct email address? Message-ID: <9FCDD018-E70D-4061-B369-D9DDD45F15D6@stok.ca> A while ago some change to the Perl Mongers mail system seemed to send email to a "vanity" email address of the Toronto Perl Mongers to a black hole. The address toronto-pm at pm.org works reliably; if you think your mail is being discarded please try sending it to that address. If that doesn't make your messages appear then please let me know and I'll raise another ticket with the PM volunteers. Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arocker at Vex.Net Mon Nov 14 05:55:01 2011 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:55:01 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Test message Message-ID: Checking the address. From olaf at vilerichard.com Mon Nov 14 20:21:14 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:21:14 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Still looking for ideas for November In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2011-11-07, at 7:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > 1) Any requests or ideas for November's Toronto Perl Mongers meeting? I suggested to Mike that we could make the evening a bit of a hackathon, where we rebuild our web site -- possibly as a Dancer app. It would be a good, practical intro to Dancer and would also give the site a much needed overhaul. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From ioncache at gmail.com Tue Nov 15 06:29:10 2011 From: ioncache at gmail.com (Mark Jubenville) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:29:10 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Still looking for ideas for November In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <4EC27736.3020302@gmail.com> I could get behind this idea. On 11-11-14 11:21 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > On 2011-11-07, at 7:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > >> 1) Any requests or ideas for November's Toronto Perl Mongers meeting? > I suggested to Mike that we could make the evening a bit of a hackathon, where we rebuild our web site -- possibly as a Dancer app. It would be a good, practical intro to Dancer and would also give the site a much needed overhaul. > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mark Jubenville | ioncache at gmail.com From mike at stok.ca Tue Nov 15 10:19:47 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:19:47 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Still looking for ideas for November In-Reply-To: <4EC27736.3020302@gmail.com> References:

<4EC27736.3020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4737FE0A-B95B-4029-9901-B34565D75376@stok.ca> That seems like a good idea for a meeting then, thanks guys! I'll get a notice up later today. Mike On 2011-11-15, at 9:29 AM, Mark Jubenville wrote: > I could get behind this idea. > > On 11-11-14 11:21 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: >> On 2011-11-07, at 7:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: >> >>> 1) Any requests or ideas for November's Toronto Perl Mongers meeting? >> I suggested to Mike that we could make the evening a bit of a hackathon, where we rebuild our web site -- possibly as a Dancer app. It would be a good, practical intro to Dancer and would also give the site a much needed overhaul. >> >> Olaf >> -- >> Olaf Alders >> olaf at vilerichard.com >> >> http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock >> http://twitter.com/vilerichard >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -- > > Mark Jubenville | ioncache at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From mike at stok.ca Tue Nov 15 18:16:58 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:16:58 -0500 Subject: [tpm] End of year social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's an interesting idea - I have no idea of what my end of year schedule looks like yet. If I'm around I'll be all for it. Is there someone out there who would like to organise things? (And organise can be as little as getting a place and date fixed...) Mike On 2011-11-09, at 6:28 PM, Tom Legrady wrote: > > Sounds good to me, though I imagine some people are busy or going away. I will look forwad to a pause in the eating and drinking, so I can .... eat and drink > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM, wrote: > > > 2) Any ideas for a place to organise the December social? > > No idea about place, but a question about timing. 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URL: From olaf at vilerichard.com Thu Nov 17 10:44:12 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:44:12 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github Message-ID: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> Hi Folks, As part of the plan to rework the web site, I think it would be handy to move the code over to a Github org, where a bunch of us can manage it rather than having to go through one person. Mike is on board with this. Since we already have the Freshwater::Perl org and it already has a bunch of us listed as owners, that seems like a good place to go. As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) happened. "tpm" is already taken, but "toronto-pm" is available. The catch is that the org can only be renamed *once*, so we have to get it right the first time. The FreshWater wiki can, of course, remain in place for future reference. Thoughts? Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From mike at stok.ca Thu Nov 17 10:52:07 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:52:07 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github In-Reply-To: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> References: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> What about Toronto-Perl-Mongers? I get PM confused because of Perl Mongers vs. Project (or product) Managers. Then we'd have perl in the name. Mike On 2011-11-17, at 1:44 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > Hi Folks, > > As part of the plan to rework the web site, I think it would be handy to move the code over to a Github org, where a bunch of us can manage it rather than having to go through one person. Mike is on board with this. Since we already have the Freshwater::Perl org and it already has a bunch of us listed as owners, that seems like a good place to go. As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) happened. > > "tpm" is already taken, but "toronto-pm" is available. The catch is that the org can only be renamed *once*, so we have to get it right the first time. The FreshWater wiki can, of course, remain in place for future reference. Thoughts? > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Thu Nov 17 10:56:46 2011 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (Adam Prime) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:56:46 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github In-Reply-To: <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> References: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> Message-ID: <4EC558EE.7020804@utoronto.ca> Seems reasonable to me. Adam On 11-11-17 01:52 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > What about Toronto-Perl-Mongers? > > I get PM confused because of Perl Mongers vs. Project (or product) Managers. > > Then we'd have perl in the name. > > Mike > > On 2011-11-17, at 1:44 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> As part of the plan to rework the web site, I think it would be handy to move the code over to a Github org, where a bunch of us can manage it rather than having to go through one person. Mike is on board with this. Since we already have the Freshwater::Perl org and it already has a bunch of us listed as owners, that seems like a good place to go. As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) happened. >> >> "tpm" is already taken, but "toronto-pm" is available. The catch is that the org can only be renamed *once*, so we have to get it right the first time. The FreshWater wiki can, of course, remain in place for future reference. Thoughts? >> >> Olaf >> -- >> Olaf Alders >> olaf at vilerichard.com >> >> http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock >> http://twitter.com/vilerichard >> http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> toronto-pm mailing list >> toronto-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > From arocker at Vex.Net Thu Nov 17 11:20:22 2011 From: arocker at Vex.Net (arocker at Vex.Net) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:20:22 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github In-Reply-To: <4EC558EE.7020804@utoronto.ca> References: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> <4EC558EE.7020804@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Why not toronto-pm? (It would save some typing.) >>> As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it >>> better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) >>> happened. >>> How much extra effort would be involved in creating a new account? If the event happens, wouldn't it be convenient to have separate accounts? From olaf at vilerichard.com Thu Nov 17 11:29:44 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:29:44 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github In-Reply-To: References: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> <4EC558EE.7020804@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: On 2011-11-17, at 2:20 PM, arocker at vex.net wrote: > Why not toronto-pm? (It would save some typing.) > >>>> As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it >>>> better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) >>>> happened. >>>> > > How much extra effort would be involved in creating a new account? If the > event happens, wouldn't it be convenient to have separate accounts? It's not a huge amount of effort, but the event would fall under Toronto PerlMongers anyway. The beauty of orgs is that you can establish different teams. So, if the event requires us to give special rights to people outside of TPM, you just set up a team for the event, a team of the web site etc. This way you're managing one account with many teams rather than many accounts with individual teams. Each project within the org has its own wiki etc. I think the hierarchy makes sense: TPM -> web site -> Freshwater::Perl -> Other projects, hackathons etc -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From jztam at yahoo.com Thu Nov 17 13:34:58 2011 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:34:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github In-Reply-To: References: <40D1B0B9-A44A-4090-92B4-9443BDE023FE@vilerichard.com> <734D374B-7E42-49FE-A650-8E4F5FC2B52D@stok.ca> <4EC558EE.7020804@utoronto.ca>

Message-ID: <1321565698.68420.YahooMailNeo@web125719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> +1 for the forethought on the hierarchy.? :-) Convention over configuration. ________________________________ From: Olaf Alders To: arocker at vex.net Cc: toronto-pm at pm.org Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:29:44 PM Subject: Re: [tpm] Renaming the Freshwater-Perl org on Github On 2011-11-17, at 2:20 PM, arocker at vex.net wrote: > Why not toronto-pm? (It would save some typing.) > >>>> As part of that, I think we should rename the account so that it >>>> better reflects the group rather than an event which has not (yet) >>>> happened. >>>> > > How much extra effort would be involved in creating a new account? If the > event happens, wouldn't it be convenient to have separate accounts? It's not a huge amount of effort, but the event would fall under Toronto PerlMongers anyway.? The beauty of orgs is that you can establish different teams.? So, if the event requires us to give special rights to people outside of TPM, you just set up a team for the event, a team of the web site etc.? This way you're managing one account with many teams rather than many accounts with individual teams.? Each project within the org has its own wiki etc.? I think the hierarchy makes sense: TPM -> web site ? ? ? ? -> Freshwater::Perl ? ? ? ? -> Other projects, hackathons etc -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mike at stok.ca Fri Nov 18 03:31:54 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:31:54 -0500 Subject: [tpm] meeting Thursday 24 November 2011 Message-ID: <85A991AD-568E-46AC-B98F-3D8141421891@stok.ca> This month's meeting will set in motion a revamp of the Toronto Perl Mongers web site http://to.pm.org Visit the web site for more details. Mike Location: 2 Bloor Street West, (usually) 8th or 16th floor. The room number will be announced on the mailing list a few days before the meeting. It will also be left with the security desk in the building (main floor lobby) shortly before the meeting starts (i.e. around 6pm). Time: 6:45 p.m. Directions: This building is on the north-west corner of Bloor and Yonge, accessible by subway from Bloor station. Pay parking is also ample in this area. Security note: The elevators in the building are "locked down" after 5:30pm to people without building access cards. Leading up to the meeting someone will come down to the main floor lobby every few minutes to ferry people upstairs. There will be a number of scheduled trips: ? 17:30 ? 18:00 ? 18:30 ? 18:45 ? 19:00 After 19:00, you can reach the access-card-carrying guy via a cell phone number that we'll leave with security in the front lobby. The room and floor numbers will be left with security too. If any latecomers call up there will be a final group elevator run at 19:10. After that, access will be ad-hoc; call up from security and somebody will try to come down and let you up. -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fulko.hew at gmail.com Mon Nov 21 10:00:03 2011 From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:00:03 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Detecting failed matches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Antonio Sun wrote: > Hi, > > What would $1 be when there is no match found? > How to detect failed pattern matches? exit unless (/stuff/); the match operator returns as a scalar, the number of matches. so what I might have is: if ($a, $b) = ($src_str =~ /(.*);(.*)/) { $x = "the first string is '$a'"; $y = "the second string is '$b'"; } else { print "no match found\n"; } Thats better than looking at the defined-ness of the extracted pattern. But to answer the question... I believe $1 retains its previous value on 'no match'. > I want the program exit code to reflect the fact whether the pattern has > been found or not. > I tried to detect undef or empty string '', but all seemed doesn't work for > me. > > ??? ??? $ret = $1; > ??? exit (defined($ret) ? 0 : 1); > ??? exit (defined($1) ? 0 : 1); From olaf at vilerichard.com Mon Nov 21 11:34:37 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:34:37 -0500 Subject: [tpm] .pm domains becoming available Message-ID: <545EC9C7-14D9-4845-B19A-0094721A1830@vilerichard.com> toronto.pm may be available? http://perlhacks.com/2011/11/saint-pierre-and-miquelon/ -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From antoniosun at lavabit.com Mon Nov 21 17:08:23 2011 From: antoniosun at lavabit.com (Antonio Sun) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:08:23 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Reliable exit code Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mike Stok wrote: > > On 2011-11-21, at 12:54 PM, Antonio Sun wrote: > > I want the program exit code to reflect the fact whether the pattern has > been found or not. . . > > > You can do something like > > @matches = $string =~ /.(.)./; > > And then see if @matches has any elements. > Thanks Mike. I'm following your advice and am now able to detect failed pattern matches. Now there is a new problem. I found that I am not able to set the exit code. The whole program is written in OO fashion. The executed part is in a *derived* class. The last several lines before my code terminates are: $ret = @matches ? 0 : 1; $self->debug("toret: $ret", 1); exit $ret; Executing the code with: my-script; echo Ret:$? yields: toret: 1Ret:0 We can clearly see that the value of '$ret' is 1, and is taken as the script exit code; but what the exit code seen from the outside is actually 0. exit is supposed to exit immediately with that value. I don't have any defined "END" routines, nor any traps, or explicitly defined class destructors. Why my exit didn't exit with the given exit code? My perl is 5.10.1-12ubuntu2. Thanks Antonio -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf at vilerichard.com Wed Nov 23 12:30:34 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:30:34 -0500 Subject: [tpm] preparing for tomorrow's meeting Message-ID: <69E8D51C-D208-4DE6-9A34-B0E4D05926E1@vilerichard.com> Hi Folks, The idea for tomorrow's meeting is to make it a bit of a hackathon as well as an introduction to some new (to some of us) toys. The proposal for the reworking of the TPM web site is: 1) Rewrite the site as a Dancer app which can be exported to static files via the "wallflower" script which comes with Dancer 2) Incorporate Bootstrap as a CSS framework 3) Make use of "less" 4) Rethinking the TPM logo (Mark Jubenville has some ideas for this) 5) Adding an RSS feed for meeting dates/times 6) Adding a page with a list of the local mongers as well as pertinent links to find them online 7) Perhaps a page to summarize job postings and/or local companies who employ perlers If you have a laptop (or access to one), please bring it. We'll be forking the app from github and deploying it locally so you may want to: 1) update your minicpan (if you have one) 2) update your perl modules: "cpan-outdated | cpanm" 3) install dancer: "cpanm Dancer" 4) read up on Dancer: https://metacpan.org/module/Dancer::Introduction 5) read up on Bootstrap: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ 6) read up on less: http://lesscss.org/ 7) create a github account if you don't already have one 8) email me with your github username if you're not already in the Freshwater::Perl github org So, that's perhaps a tall order. If you're motivated, please do have a look at the sites mentioned above. If you can't find the time before the meeting, that's OK too, but the github account would be helpful. I figure we can have a short discussion to get started and then break into groups. Those without machines can mass pair program with someone who is hooked up to the projector or just pair up with someone of their choosing. The object, at the end of the meeting, would be to have a workable prototype of the site online as well as to get more familiar with some neat tools in the process. There's still the question of connectivity. Should we have someone bring a wireless router so that we can create a network that we're all able to access? Are there ethernet connections in the rooms? It'll be much harder to work if we can't get everyone online. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From jztam at yahoo.com Thu Nov 24 09:33:09 2011 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:33:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [tpm] preparing for tomorrow's meeting In-Reply-To: <69E8D51C-D208-4DE6-9A34-B0E4D05926E1@vilerichard.com> References: <69E8D51C-D208-4DE6-9A34-B0E4D05926E1@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <1322155989.43376.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A: I'll bring my Rogers (cough, coughUpALung) Portable connection.?? Q: Which? floor?? room?? tonight lads? /jordan ________________________________ From: Olaf Alders To: toronto-pm at pm.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:30:34 PM Subject: [tpm] preparing for tomorrow's meeting Hi Folks, The idea for tomorrow's meeting is to make it a bit of a hackathon as well as an introduction to some new (to some of us) toys.? The proposal for the reworking of the TPM web site is: 1) Rewrite the site as a Dancer app which can be exported to static files via the "wallflower" script which comes with Dancer 2) Incorporate Bootstrap as a CSS framework 3) Make use of "less" 4) Rethinking the TPM logo (Mark Jubenville has some ideas for this) 5) Adding an RSS feed for meeting dates/times 6) Adding a page with a list of the local mongers as well as pertinent links to find them online 7) Perhaps a page to summarize job postings and/or local companies who employ perlers If you have a laptop (or access to one), please bring it. We'll be forking the app from github and deploying it locally so you may want to: 1) update your minicpan (if you have one) 2) update your perl modules: "cpan-outdated | cpanm" 3) install dancer: "cpanm Dancer" 4) read up on Dancer: https://metacpan.org/module/Dancer::Introduction 5) read up on Bootstrap: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ 6) read up on less: http://lesscss.org/ 7) create a github account if you don't already have one 8) email me with your github username if you're not already in the Freshwater::Perl github org So, that's perhaps a tall order.? If you're motivated, please do have a look at the sites mentioned above. If you can't find the time before the meeting, that's OK too, but the github account would be helpful.? I figure we can have a short discussion to get started and then break into groups.? Those without machines can mass pair program with someone who is hooked up to the projector or just pair up with someone of their choosing.? The object, at the end of the meeting, would be to have a workable prototype of the site online as well as to get more familiar with some neat tools in the process. There's still the question of connectivity.? Should we have someone bring a wireless router so that we can create a network that we're all able to access?? Are there ethernet connections in the rooms?? It'll be much harder to work if we can't get everyone online. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard _______________________________________________ toronto-pm mailing list toronto-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf at vilerichard.com Thu Nov 24 21:28:49 2011 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:28:49 -0500 Subject: [tpm] web site progress Message-ID: <9E1C356E-BB71-4F51-9108-2C7A4729E9AA@vilerichard.com> Thanks to everyone who came out to participate in the web site hackathon this evening. For those of you who weren't able to come, the new website has a page where local mongers can add their names and some relevant links. You can find it here: https://github.com/toronto-perl-mongers/tpm-website/blob/develop/views/people.tt If you have a github account and are part of the toronto-perl-mongers organization, you can edit the page directly on github and submit your changes. If you don't have a github account, you can create one and send your username to the list so that we can add you to the organization. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From mike at stok.ca Fri Nov 25 03:07:13 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:07:13 -0500 Subject: [tpm] December Social 29 Dec 2001, C'est What? Message-ID: ... after much discussion... The plan for the December social event is: Date: Thursday 29 December Time: after 6:30 PM Place: C'est What? 67 Front Street http://www.cestwhat.com/ Mike -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 13:31:58 2011 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:31:58 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers References: <3243859031970509641@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4804945414243298079@unknownmsgid> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger group. What should I do? Any ideas? From mike at stok.ca Tue Nov 29 14:09:59 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:09:59 -0500 Subject: [tpm] December Social 29 Dec 2001, C'est What? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E02B1C6-540F-4F8E-AAAA-DDF491928B14@stok.ca> As Matt pointed out: the year in the subject line is wrong. It should be 29 Dec 2011. Mike On 2011-11-25, at 6:07 AM, Mike Stok wrote: > ... after much discussion... > > The plan for the December social event is: > > Date: Thursday 29 December > Time: after 6:30 PM > Place: C'est What? 67 Front Street http://www.cestwhat.com/ > > Mike > > -- > > Mike Stok > http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ > > The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Tue Nov 29 15:03:34 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:03:34 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Fwd: UG News - Last Chance to Register: Getting Google to Love Your Website, 10 Things You Should Know About HTML5, Strata Online Conference and Much More. 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URL: From mike at stok.ca Tue Nov 29 15:24:19 2011 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:24:19 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: <4804945414243298079@unknownmsgid> References: <3243859031970509641@unknownmsgid> <4804945414243298079@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <6435B8C5-8351-41BD-82F9-D85EAFA1C6E5@stok.ca> http://www.pm.org/start/ might be a place to start, and be aware that http://london.pm.org/ exists and they have a very full social life :-) Mike On 2011-11-29, at 4:31 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > group. What should I do? Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 15:27:59 2011 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:27:59 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> Message-ID: <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> I was thinking lonon.pm Sent from my iPhone On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > > > > On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: > >> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger >> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > > First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > > From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 16:14:44 2011 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:14:44 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <-641198488477438405@unknownmsgid> My start up uses perl. Biotech companies on research park use bio perl a lot Sent from my iPhone On 2011-11-29, at 7:13 PM, Matthew Phillips wrote: The first step would be finding anyone else interested in Perl in London interested in meeting monthly. Having gone to Western, I sadly can't name any companies that use Perl in the general area, nor any mention of Perl while I was at school. So that doesn't bode too well. Cheers, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > I was thinking lonon.pm > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: > > > >> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > >> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > > > > First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 16:21:24 2011 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:21:24 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: <-641198488477438405@unknownmsgid> References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> <-641198488477438405@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1818730974221974597@unknownmsgid> Also a few web companies Sent from my iPhone On 2011-11-29, at 7:14 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: My start up uses perl. Biotech companies on research park use bio perl a lot Sent from my iPhone On 2011-11-29, at 7:13 PM, Matthew Phillips wrote: The first step would be finding anyone else interested in Perl in London interested in meeting monthly. Having gone to Western, I sadly can't name any companies that use Perl in the general area, nor any mention of Perl while I was at school. So that doesn't bode too well. Cheers, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > I was thinking lonon.pm > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: > > > >> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > >> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > > > > First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samogon at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 16:41:40 2011 From: samogon at gmail.com (Ilia) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:41:40 -0600 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: or ldn.pm seems the twitter hashtag for london is #ldnont these days. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > I was thinking lonon.pm > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: >> >>> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger >>> group. What should I do? Any ideas? >> >> First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) >> >> > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 18:04:37 2011 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:04:37 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: I like that. On Nov 29, 2011 7:42 PM, "Ilia" wrote: > > or ldn.pm > > seems the twitter hashtag for london is #ldnont these days. > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kartik Thakore > wrote: > > I was thinking lonon.pm > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: > >> > >>> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > >>> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > >> > >> First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > toronto-pm mailing list > > toronto-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mphillips34 at gmail.com Tue Nov 29 16:07:24 2011 From: mphillips34 at gmail.com (Matthew Phillips) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:07:24 -0500 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: The first step would be finding anyone else interested in Perl in London interested in meeting monthly. Having gone to Western, I sadly can't name any companies that use Perl in the general area, nor any mention of Perl while I was at school. So that doesn't bode too well. Cheers, Matt On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > I was thinking lonon.pm > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore wrote: > > > >> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > >> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > > > > First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hindle1 at ualberta.ca Wed Nov 30 09:34:43 2011 From: hindle1 at ualberta.ca (Abram Hindle) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:34:43 -0700 Subject: [tpm] Kick starting a london perl mongers In-Reply-To: (sfid-20111130_094903_447137_C91A9B9A) References: <22888283.811801.1322605319243.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <4065021241563085076@unknownmsgid> (sfid-20111130_094903_447137_C91A9B9A) Message-ID: <4ED66933.30301@ualberta.ca> I've got a bit of rambling to do about the subject. I have some experience organizing groups as I helped out with the Toronto Ruby Users Group, Victoria Perl Mongers, KW Perl Mongers, Toronto Perl Mongers, Toronto Lisp Users Group, Victoria Open Source Users Group, etc. to different extents. Organizing is hard work and you're going to do have do a few hours of leg work to have a successful meet. My recommendation would be to start a temporary meetup.com meetup group. The software is irritating and the service annoying but at least you advertise your group there. The cheapest long term platform beyond the PMs is twitter and github. Make a twitter and github. I recommend starting a lonon perl blog and getting on planet perl so perl bloggers will notice you. I recommend finding the london on reddit and announcing there. Get on the london linux users group list, ask the moderator if you can advertise. Find any other form of "nerd church" even other languages like the python group or ruby group. Be prepared to volunteer a tutorial. Also UWO is a good resource. Try to find a computer science club or group there and advertise with them and get their permission to post a poster. Once you get the word out I recommend finding another keener (not Jim Keener necessarily) and make them 2nd in the command. You need someone to do things when you're too busy to. Free food is helpful. I recommend following Kitchener Waterloo (KW.PM.ORG)'s methodology. Anonymous donor donates pizza at the start of the meet. First 15 minutes of a meeting are news and eating pizza. Eventually people are ready to pay attention. This allows you to have a 6:30-7:00 start time and not stress people out because they know they are going have food. Then afterwards fine a nearby establishment that isn't too loud (Burgundys was actually really nice for not being excessively loud for a pub) and stay out and visit. You probably need to decide if you want to just do social meets, or have some kind of formal lecture structures. Formal lectures need chairs, a quiet room and a projector. This is where finding UWO people will help out. If the Perl Mongers doesn't pan out, try a dynamic languages group or an open source software developers group. Regardless, be creative at the start, provide people with some structure to latch on to and once you have people they will probably help you direct it. * Social Networks in the real world are important but the virtual social networks can help you advertise [twitter, reddit, pm, github, etc.] * Free food is good at the start * Social or Formal * Find a 2nd organizer :) * Latch onto UWO, Computer Science undergraduates are both interested (they should be!) and useful (room booking and projectors). A faculty sponsor is better because their power to book rooms is much stronger. abram On 11/29/2011 05:07 PM, Matthew Phillips wrote: > The first step would be finding anyone else interested in Perl in > London interested in meeting monthly. > Having gone to Western, I sadly can't name any companies that use Perl > in the general area, nor any mention of Perl while I was at school. So > that doesn't bode too well. > > Cheers, > Matt > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Kartik Thakore > > wrote: > > I was thinking lonon.pm > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-11-29, at 5:22 PM, Jim Keenan > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/11, Kartik Thakore > wrote: > > > >> I am a londoner and would like to kick start a London perl monger > >> group. What should I do? Any ideas? > > > > First, get into a tussle with London.pm (UK) over naming rights ;-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: