From Quantum.Mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Fri Jul 2 08:20:03 2010 From: Quantum.Mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum.Mechanic.1964 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:20:03 +0000 Subject: [tpm] Special Perl Speaker Sessions This Summer? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00504502b89e05994e048a691fcc@google.com> Hi, Are there any special Perl speakers/sessions this summer? Anyone coming through from whatever conferences I couldn't make? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at stok.ca Fri Jul 2 12:21:41 2010 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:21:41 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Fwd: [pm_groups] What would you like TPF to do? References: <201007022122.30889.Richard.Foley@rfi.net> Message-ID: <38D0185E-9738-4806-AB23-F8E3ABDC2759@stok.ca> > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: [pm_groups] What would you like TPF to do? > Date: Thursday 01 July 2010 > From: Gabor Szabo > To: PM Groups > > I know I am just a spammer but my grant request prompted thi larger question > and I'd like many people to comment on it. > > http://blogs.perl.org/users/gabor_szabo/2010/07/what-would-you-like-tpf-to-do.html > > In hope you find it important to distribute to your local PM list. > > regards > Gabor > -- > Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org > > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups > > ------------------------------------------------------- -- Mike Stok http://www.stok.ca/~mike/ The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com Fri Jul 2 16:06:53 2010 From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] Call For TPF Volunteers At OSCON Message-ID: <137111.75335.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Toronto Mongers, The Perl Foundation will be having an exhibit booth at OSCON and we're looking for some volunteers to help out. Chris Prather will be running lead onsite. I have four exhibit booth staff passes left if there's anyone interested in helping out, but didn't plan on attending the talks, let me know. If you would like to volunteer, please sign up on the wiki: http://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?events_2010_oscon You can also join the "events" mailing list by sending a message to: events-subscribe at lists.perlfoundation.org Thanks! -Dan From arocker at vex.net Fri Jul 2 18:12:11 2010 From: arocker at vex.net (arocker at vex.net) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:12:11 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Call For TPF Volunteers At OSCON In-Reply-To: <137111.75335.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <137111.75335.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6fb6135e27e9167ad236b631b389175f.squirrel@webmail.vex.net> > Toronto Mongers, > > The Perl Foundation will be having an exhibit booth at OSCON and we're > looking for some volunteers to help out. Bit of a trek out to Portland, OR. Add accommodation for four days, and it would be a rather expensive piece of volunteering. From olaf at vilerichard.com Fri Jul 2 18:27:36 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:27:36 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Call For TPF Volunteers At OSCON In-Reply-To: <6fb6135e27e9167ad236b631b389175f.squirrel@webmail.vex.net> References: <137111.75335.qm@web33308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6fb6135e27e9167ad236b631b389175f.squirrel@webmail.vex.net> Message-ID: <2D038124-2023-400E-B99A-02F934F73D6E@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-02, at 9:12 PM, arocker at vex.net wrote: >> Toronto Mongers, >> >> The Perl Foundation will be having an exhibit booth at OSCON and we're >> looking for some volunteers to help out. > > Bit of a trek out to Portland, OR. Add accommodation for four days, and it > would be a rather expensive piece of volunteering. True, but I get the feeling TPF is looking for volunteers who are going to be there *anyway*. :) -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From olaf at vilerichard.com Fri Jul 2 18:33:05 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:33:05 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store Message-ID: I just wanted to pass along a note that iCPAN (the iPhone app which Mark and I talked about for the May TPM meeting) is now available in the App Store. You can search on "iCPAN" from your device or follow this link: http://wee.im/mSxqUppD This is the 1st version, so the search is still slow. We're still in the process of implementing the suggestions for speeding the search which we got from those of you who attended the meeting. We've also got syntax highlighting in place for the next release (which will include the search fixes). Having said that, this first release is still pretty decent and, after you install, you'll be able to follow the usual upgrade path to get the next improvements when we update the application. This will work on version 3.1 and up on your iPhone/iPod/iPad. We may have mentioned that the app doesn't run on an iPad, but that turns out to be incorrect. It doesn't run correctly on the iPad simulator, but it does work on the device itself. Please let us know what you think! Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 06:08:31 2010 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:08:31 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DBM::Deep? On Friday, July 2, 2010, Olaf Alders wrote: > I just wanted to pass along a note that iCPAN (the iPhone app which Mark and I talked about for the May TPM meeting) is now available in the App Store. ?You can search on "iCPAN" from your device or follow this link: > > http://wee.im/mSxqUppD > > This is the 1st version, so the search is still slow. ?We're still in the process of implementing the suggestions for speeding the search which we got from those of you who attended the meeting. ?We've also got syntax highlighting in place for the next release (which will include the search fixes). ?Having said that, this first release is still pretty decent and, after you install, you'll be able to follow the usual upgrade path to get the next improvements when we update the application. > > This will work on version 3.1 and up on your iPhone/iPod/iPad. ? We may have mentioned that the app doesn't run on an iPad, but that turns out to be incorrect. ?It doesn't run correctly on the iPad simulator, but it does work on the device itself. ?Please let us know what you think! > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of From olaf at vilerichard.com Mon Jul 5 06:56:39 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:56:39 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-05, at 9:08 AM, Quantum Mechanic wrote: > DBM::Deep? Ah, it looks like this module is missing from our index. I'll make sure it gets added with the next update. :) -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Wed Jul 7 19:03:10 2010 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:03:10 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: Can you not have it update from wifi? Also we would love perldoc to be on there! And a search function. But I ask for too much. If you have the code some place I can add this (or die trying). On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2010-07-05, at 9:08 AM, Quantum Mechanic wrote: > > > DBM::Deep? > > Ah, it looks like this module is missing from our index. I'll make sure it > gets added with the next update. :) > > > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf at vilerichard.com Wed Jul 7 19:48:25 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:48:25 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-07, at 10:03 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > Can you not have it update from wifi? That's actually something we've been discussing -- I think it's a very good idea. > Also we would love perldoc to be on there! And a search function. I'm on board with that. > But I ask for too much. If you have the code some place I can add this (or die trying). I will take you up on that offer. The GitHub repo will be public in a week or so. I'll post it to this list as soon as it's available so that you can send me your pull requests. :) -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Wed Jul 7 20:29:54 2010 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 23:29:54 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: Is the code in C? And how can I get the toolchain and emulator? Kartik Thakore On 2010-07-07, at 10:48 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2010-07-07, at 10:03 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > >> Can you not have it update from wifi? > > That's actually something we've been discussing -- I think it's a > very good idea. > >> Also we would love perldoc to be on there! And a search function. > > I'm on board with that. > >> But I ask for too much. If you have the code some place I can add >> this (or die trying). > > I will take you up on that offer. The GitHub repo will be public in > a week or so. I'll post it to this list as soon as it's available > so that you can send me your pull requests. :) > > > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > From olaf at vilerichard.com Thu Jul 8 03:17:14 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 06:17:14 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <7666F5CF-759A-4C27-A8C9-8FF400B1DF9B@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-07, at 11:29 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > Is the code in C? And how can I get the toolchain and emulator? It's in Objective-C. That doesn't preclude using code in C, but Objective-C (mostly) handles your memory management. You'd also need the iPhone SDK: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action The big prerequisite is that the SDK will only run on a Mac, so that would be the limiting factor for a lot of people. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From jztam at yahoo.com Thu Jul 8 07:07:43 2010 From: jztam at yahoo.com (J Z Tam) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32797.58971.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear mongeren, PREFACE: This is Not meant to start a dreaded asbestos contest, ... really. Just wanted to get a practical, experiential set of feedback from the list, regarding the planning of revisioning paradigms. Q1. What global, centralized VCS are you _now_ using? Pros, cons, perlAbleness, emacsAbleness (lispFullness ?), eclipseAble? Q2. What was your Previous VCS, and how did the migration/converion process go? I have my preferences of course, but do not want to bias the replies in any way. TIA /jordan From abram.hindle at softwareprocess.es Thu Jul 8 07:08:32 2010 From: abram.hindle at softwareprocess.es (Abram Hindle) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:08:32 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Meeting - June 24, 18:45 Perl and phones In-Reply-To: (sfid-20100625_160704_699055_47C9748C) References: <7F815467-9807-4B0C-A2BC-2349E8C48ED7@stok.ca> <49E58051-46B2-442B-8698-0A7BF65E0228@stok.ca> <3C34E242-4F6C-47CC-888E-5D82A7AAC0A4@vilerichard.com> (sfid-20100625_160704_699055_47C9748C) Message-ID: <4C35DBE0.7020402@softwareprocess.es> Scott asked me to post my android noise music code: It can be downloaded from here: http://github.com/abramhindle/my-hello-android-hello-world abram On 10-06-25 04:02 PM, Scott Elcomb wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: >> Are there any slides available for those of us who missed last night's talk? > > Not yet, but I will try to get them posted up later tonight. > > Take care, > - Scott > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pros, cons, perlAbleness, emacsAbleness (lispFullness ?), eclipseAble? Git - very perl - sorta works in emacs with random emacs addons, doesn't integrate pull and push well enough imho but I can handle merges with ediff. - I don't know about eclipse - You can set it up in a centralized manner - Local repositories are nice and letting people maintain their own branches helps too - Requires group agreement on the process of committing and merging code. - merges well - handles commits well - scales > Q2. What was your Previous VCS, and how did the migration/converion process go? CVS - perl enough - works great in emacs - works fine in eclipse - very simple - can modify files with RCS - easy to edit and modify underlying format - Not easy to share with others -- Easy to recover from corruption (just edit it!) - branching is lightweight (but requires many incantations to do right) - Messes up some binary files - No commit tracking, just per file revisions SVN - perl enough - works fine in emacs - works fine in eclipse - Not very simple, has stupid URLs - Works over HTTP - more flexible than CVS in terms of sharing a repo but still annoying to setup - Braindead heavyweight branching, it so bad that people worry about costs of using the feature - Awful backend formats that are hard to fix and easy to corrupt - Random NFS glitches depending on your backend format - Very little benefit over CVS - Commit tracking Darcs - handles perl but not perl - not great in eclipse - ok in emacs (worse than git?) - very nice UI, very simple text UI lets your cherry pick chunks of code - not simple - has a theory of patching - Can be really slow - easy to share with other -- no special setup for sharing over http - branching is easy - cherrypicking is easy - scaling might be an issue > > I have my preferences of course, but do not want to bias the replies in any way. TIA > /jordan > > > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stuart at morungos.com Thu Jul 8 07:52:18 2010 From: stuart at morungos.com (Stuart Watt) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:52:18 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? In-Reply-To: <4C35DF76.3060700@softwareprocess.es> References: <32797.58971.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com> (sfid-20100708_101439_472523_6336A02B) <4C35DF76.3060700@softwareprocess.es> Message-ID: <4C35E622.90702@morungos.com> I know you don't want a contest, but Subversion is not as bad as described, really. I've used it for 7 years, our team used it for three now, and we have never had a real problem. Having said what follows, starting today, I probably would use Git. The command names are not easy to grasp, but merging for complex non-hierarchically organized projects does appear to be very significantly better than Subversion. For a well-structured single project, though, Subversion is fine, stable, relatively efficient, and very widely supported. There are many good clients, some of which are "manager friendly". On 7/8/2010 10:23 AM, Abram Hindle wrote: > This is based on my experience: > SVN > - perl enough > - works fine in emacs > - works fine in eclipse > - Not very simple, has stupid URLs They're not so bad - if you use HTTP/HTTPS, which almost everyone does, as the Apache plugins are far the easiest way to handle a centralised repository. (Our URLs are, like: http://svn.mydomain.com/svn/myproject). You can run a builtin server with its own protocol, which is marginally lighter in bandwidth, but Apache does make it easy to integrate into a development platform. > - Works over HTTP > - more flexible than CVS in terms of sharing a repo but still annoying > to setup > - Braindead heavyweight branching, it so bad that people worry about > costs of using the feature Branching is not heavyweight. An alias is made and subsequent deltas. A branch of 100Mb of stuff takes less than a second. Believe me, we do that a lot. The repository does not grow significantly for a branch. > - Awful backend formats that are hard to fix and easy to corrupt I've never had a single backend corruption in 7 years of running Subversion. It's relatively easy to wedge a (local) working copy, especially if you accidentally delete one of its hidden folders, or, worse, copy a folder using the file system forgetting not to copy the .svn crap. Then you may need to wipe the working copy and check out again. (Obviously, someone as technically paranoid as I am does backups by using the textual delta dump tool for safety; you can simply back up the repository, but for the same reason I back up database data in text, I do the same with Subversion. The backup file produced is textual and contains all the deltas, so it is possible to edit the repository, and rebuild it from this, if you really want to delete some stuff, for example -- this is rare enough I have done it only 2-3 times ever.) > - Random NFS glitches depending on your backend format NFS is not always a good bet for file locks, but this would be bad for any VCS. If you don't use file shares for the repository, not a problem. An old/broken NFS could explain corrupted data. The safest centralized way is *definitely* local file system access to the web server with the Apache Subversion modules, and HTTP/HTTPS access from there. > - Very little benefit over CVS Far better handling of deleting and merging. Very good support for binary files. (e.g., Word and Excel files are supported fine, and changes are made as deltas even for binary files, so small edits are handled well). HTTP/HTTPS support -- seriously, you need this to enable access for off-site work, CVS ports are often blocked in wifi zones. > - Commit tracking The other thing I like about Apache access is that it has nice user control systems. For example, I can allow some users read access to parts of the system, and stop others tagging stuff. Believe me, with some of our developers, it can be nice to stop them changing certain files... All the best Stuart From olaf at vilerichard.com Thu Jul 8 08:05:56 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:05:56 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? In-Reply-To: <4C35E622.90702@morungos.com> References: <32797.58971.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com> (sfid-20100708_101439_472523_6336A02B) <4C35DF76.3060700@softwareprocess.es> <4C35E622.90702@morungos.com> Message-ID: On 2010-07-08, at 10:52 AM, Stuart Watt wrote: > I know you don't want a contest, but Subversion is not as bad as described, really. I've used it for 7 years, our team used it for three now, and we have never had a real problem. > > Having said what follows, starting today, I probably would use Git. The command names are not easy to grasp, but merging for complex non-hierarchically organized projects does appear to be very significantly better than Subversion. For a well-structured single project, though, Subversion is fine, stable, relatively efficient, and very widely supported. There are many good clients, some of which are "manager friendly". I found Subversion much easier to get started with than Git. It took me a while to wrap my head around Git, but once I did, it was hard to go back to Subversion. My experience with branching in Subversion was that the merging seemed very hit and miss and I found that for a big merge, I'd be setting aside a few hours to try to untangle everything. So, I would try to avoid branching where possible. Using Git, branching and merging seems trivial, so it's no longer an issue. Also, GitHub is a great resource and with its system of pull requests, it makes it really easy to apply patches from people who have cloned your repository. I find that if someone sends me a pull request for a module, I can have the patch applied and uploaded to CPAN in just minutes. It's a no-brainer. That's likely also due to the way GitHub works, but I think it's a good argument for Git since it makes my life easier. What I do like about Subversion is how easy it is to commit with a username/password rather than an SSH key, which makes it easy for me to commit back to a repo from a machine (like a client's machine) where I don't have SSH keys. Also, SVN::Notify messages are considerably prettier. If a project is working well in Subversion, there's probably no need to migrate to Git, but for new projects, I always choose Git. Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From mike at stok.ca Thu Jul 8 08:13:42 2010 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:13:42 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group Program--July References: <1278601315.30400.0.985411@post.oreilly.com> Message-ID: <1ACB4CBF-6D26-4929-917F-DABB44E79894@stok.ca> From O'Reilly as part of our membership of their user group program. Mike If you cannot read the information below, click here. 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What global, centralized VCS are you _now_ using? Pros, cons, > perlAbleness, emacsAbleness (lispFullness ?), eclipseAble? > At the moment, I'm primarily using Subversion (for most of my stuff, possibly due to inertia), git (when I'm forced to use it - say for projects hosted at github), Mercurial (for "quick and dirty" version-this-directory-using-"hg init ."-stuff, for experimentation and for projects that are using it) and a bit of other version control systems such as CVS or Bazaar-NG. Subversion is not distributed, but there's git-svn hgsubversion, the Bazaar svn plugin, etc. which are capable of treating it as a distributed backend (do not touch SVK, which is old and unmaintained). Some people are unhappy with branches and tags being directory copies, though I'm not too bothered about it. Subversion is pretty fast from my testing. I didn't encounter any problems specific to Perl - you can handle files as binary, or with your choice of LF/CRLF/native line ending, and while adding version control stamps and keywords (which git does not support - see http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/subversion.html#svn-linus-and- keywords-subst ), and can version empty directories or trees of empty directories (which git and Mercurial cannot either), which is what I think is needed for Perl. ( I have yet to run into a VCS with which I had serious problems working on Perl and CPAN code). I don't know how well Subversion support Emacs or Eclipse because I'm primarily using vim/gvim and it works fine with it. I know many people are using Emacs or Eclipse along with Subversion so it should not be a problem. Before Subversion, I used CVS and had a little foray into BitKeeper (which you should not get anywhere near to due to the hostile behaviour of its parent company). More information about all that can be found here: http://better-scm.berlios.de/ > Q2. What was your Previous VCS, and how did the migration/converion > process go? > Migrating from CVS to Subversion is very easy thanks to the cvs2svn (now also cvs2git) framework. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Parody on "The Fountainhead" - http://shlom.in/towtf God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . From shlomif at iglu.org.il Fri Jul 9 00:37:44 2010 From: shlomif at iglu.org.il (Shlomi Fish) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 10:37:44 +0300 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? Message-ID: <201007091037.44948.shlomif@iglu.org.il> Sending again because the shortened URL service was blacklisted (again). On Thursday 08 Jul 2010 17:07:43 J Z Tam wrote: > Dear mongeren, > PREFACE: This is Not meant to start a dreaded asbestos contest, ... really. > Just wanted to get a practical, experiential set of feedback from the list, > regarding the planning of revisioning paradigms. > > Q1. What global, centralized VCS are you _now_ using? Pros, cons, > perlAbleness, emacsAbleness (lispFullness ?), eclipseAble? > At the moment, I'm primarily using Subversion (for most of my stuff, possibly due to inertia), git (when I'm forced to use it - say for projects hosted at github), Mercurial (for "quick and dirty" version-this-directory-using-"hg init ."-stuff, for experimentation and for projects that are using it) and a bit of other version control systems such as CVS or Bazaar-NG. Subversion is not distributed, but there's git-svn hgsubversion, the Bazaar svn plugin, etc. which are capable of treating it as a distributed backend (do not touch SVK, which is old and unmaintained). Some people are unhappy with branches and tags being directory copies, though I'm not too bothered about it. Subversion is pretty fast from my testing. I didn't encounter any problems specific to Perl - you can handle files as binary, or with your choice of LF/CRLF/native line ending, and while adding version control stamps and keywords (which git does not support - see http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/subversion.html#svn-linus-and- keywords-subst ), and can version empty directories or trees of empty directories (which git and Mercurial cannot either), which is what I think is needed for Perl. ( I have yet to run into a VCS with which I had serious problems working on Perl and CPAN code). I don't know how well Subversion support Emacs or Eclipse because I'm primarily using vim/gvim and it works fine with it. I know many people are using Emacs or Eclipse along with Subversion so it should not be a problem. Before Subversion, I used CVS and had a little foray into BitKeeper (which you should not get anywhere near to due to the hostile behaviour of its parent company). More information about all that can be found here: http://better-scm.berlios.de/ > Q2. What was your Previous VCS, and how did the migration/converion > process go? > Migrating from CVS to Subversion is very easy thanks to the cvs2svn (now also cvs2git) framework. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Parody on "The Fountainhead" - http://shlom.in/towtf God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . From abram.hindle at softwareprocess.es Fri Jul 9 06:22:31 2010 From: abram.hindle at softwareprocess.es (Abram Hindle) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:22:31 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? In-Reply-To: <201007091037.44948.shlomif@iglu.org.il> (sfid-20100709_034921_652632_7952F625) References: <201007091037.44948.shlomif@iglu.org.il> (sfid-20100709_034921_652632_7952F625) Message-ID: <4C372297.2040407@softwareprocess.es> Another new and neat SCM I ran into lately: http://fossil-scm.org It is written by the sqlite-lite guys. It provides: * Self hosting webservice * Distributed VCS * Distributed Bug tracking * Distributed Wiki * UI via webservice So fossil is an integrated package. abram On 10-07-09 03:37 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Sending again because the shortened URL service was blacklisted (again). > > On Thursday 08 Jul 2010 17:07:43 J Z Tam wrote: >> Dear mongeren, >> PREFACE: This is Not meant to start a dreaded asbestos contest, ... really. >> Just wanted to get a practical, experiential set of feedback from the list, >> regarding the planning of revisioning paradigms. >> >> Q1. What global, centralized VCS are you _now_ using? Pros, cons, >> perlAbleness, emacsAbleness (lispFullness ?), eclipseAble? >> > > At the moment, I'm primarily using Subversion (for most of my stuff, possibly > due to inertia), git (when I'm forced to use it - say for projects hosted at > github), Mercurial (for "quick and dirty" version-this-directory-using-"hg > init ."-stuff, for experimentation and for projects that are using it) and a > bit of other version control systems such as CVS or Bazaar-NG. > > Subversion is not distributed, but there's git-svn hgsubversion, the Bazaar > svn plugin, etc. which are capable of treating it as a distributed backend (do > not touch SVK, which is old and unmaintained). Some people are unhappy with > branches and tags being directory copies, though I'm not too bothered about > it. Subversion is pretty fast from my testing. > > I didn't encounter any problems specific to Perl - you can handle files as > binary, or with your choice of LF/CRLF/native line ending, and while adding > version control stamps and keywords (which git does not support - see > http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/subversion.html#svn-linus-and- > keywords-subst ), and can version empty directories or trees of empty > directories (which git and Mercurial cannot either), which is what I think is > needed for Perl. ( I have yet to run into a VCS with which I had serious > problems working on Perl and CPAN code). > > I don't know how well Subversion support Emacs or Eclipse because I'm > primarily using vim/gvim and it works fine with it. I know many people are > using Emacs or Eclipse along with Subversion so it should not be a problem. > > Before Subversion, I used CVS and had a little foray into BitKeeper (which you > should not get anywhere near to due to the hostile behaviour of its parent > company). More information about all that can be found here: > > http://better-scm.berlios.de/ > >> Q2. What was your Previous VCS, and how did the migration/converion >> process go? >> > > Migrating from CVS to Subversion is very easy thanks to the cvs2svn (now also > cvs2git) framework. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From talexb at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 08:01:00 2010 From: talexb at gmail.com (Alex Beamish) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:01:00 -0400 Subject: [tpm] RFC: Which Centralized VCS[s] are you using now or in future? In-Reply-To: <32797.58971.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <32797.58971.qm@web57612.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At $work, I'm currently moving from svn to git; I'm mostly OK with svn, except when it comes to branching and merging. I don't know if it's a learning disability thing, or whether I don't do it often enough, but I find merging using svn is very difficult. Branching is simple, but the only reason I do branching is so I can do a merge later. My experience branching and merging with git has been a little better; I still get alarming messages that my better informed colleagues tell me not to worry about. (Pushing changes to a named branch give me some warnings about the main branch, but apparently I can ignore those.) Sorry, I'm from the old school where if a command gives me a warning, I want to make 100% sure that things are OK. And I use git for stuff I'm doing at home -- it's very handy and lightweight, and since it seems to be the VCS du jour, I like to use it to stay current. Alex From thakore.kartik at gmail.com Mon Jul 12 13:29:26 2010 From: thakore.kartik at gmail.com (Kartik Thakore) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:29:26 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: <002D083A-5A88-4367-85E3-894FF5DEB959@vilerichard.com> References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> <002D083A-5A88-4367-85E3-894FF5DEB959@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <8E1F7243-3B13-4B00-80C8-CB81FE3FADBE@gmail.com> Now I need to get a hold of a mac with xcode and vnc. Can I compile this in mac shell? xcode foo.xproj ? Kartik Thakore On 2010-07-12, at 10:33 AM, Olaf Alders wrote: > > On 2010-07-07, at 11:29 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > >> Is the code in C? And how can I get the toolchain and emulator? >> >> Kartik Thakore > > I've now got the code in a public GitHub repo: > > http://github.com/oalders/iCPAN > > There are some basic instructions on getting started in the README, > which you will see if you scroll down on that page. We're > interested in any and all feedback or contributions. > > > Olaf > -- > Olaf Alders > olaf at vilerichard.com > > http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock > http://twitter.com/vilerichard > http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard > > > > From olaf at vilerichard.com Mon Jul 12 13:47:52 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:47:52 -0400 Subject: [tpm] iCPAN is now in the App Store In-Reply-To: <8E1F7243-3B13-4B00-80C8-CB81FE3FADBE@gmail.com> References: <452E57F6-A5E1-4302-927E-04929D560999@vilerichard.com> <55CBC69F-BF31-471F-901D-46098E6F3B5E@vilerichard.com> <002D083A-5A88-4367-85E3-894FF5DEB959@vilerichard.com> <8E1F7243-3B13-4B00-80C8-CB81FE3FADBE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3BA44B83-3701-4DE7-AAE9-A0A5ADA12DC4@vilerichard.com> If you can VNC into a Mac with Xcode installed, you can get the man page from your shell: man xcodebuild I haven't tried building from the command line, but I'd be interested to hear how that works out. Olaf On 2010-07-12, at 4:29 PM, Kartik Thakore wrote: > Now I need to get a hold of a mac with xcode and vnc. Can I compile this in mac shell? > > xcode foo.xproj ? > > Kartik Thakore > -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From mike at stok.ca Sun Jul 18 07:23:45 2010 From: mike at stok.ca (Mike Stok) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:23:45 -0400 Subject: [tpm] Upcoming meetings - any more speakers for July? Message-ID: I have two or three people lined up to give their impressions of YAPC::NA at the July 2010 Toronto Perl Mongers meeting on Thursday 29 July. If any more people want to put forth for a few minutes then get in touch with me. I was hoping that we might be able to get a special guest for August, but the stars seemed to be particularly poorly aligned this year. 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From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 10:06:23 2010 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:06:23 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? Message-ID: Are the YAPC::NA 2010 presentations online somewhere? I heard Damian's Perl6 presentation was interesting. -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf at vilerichard.com Fri Jul 30 10:17:46 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:17:46 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-30, at 1:06 PM, Quantum Mechanic wrote: > Are the YAPC::NA 2010 presentations online somewhere? > > I heard Damian's Perl6 presentation was interesting. They're actually listed on the Wiki. If there's a "talk" link next to the actual talk name, that's generally the way to find the slides: http://yapc2010.com/yn2010/talks Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From talexb at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 10:45:38 2010 From: talexb at gmail.com (Alex Beamish) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:45:38 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: How about the talks themselves? I'd love to get some of the talks as podcasts or MP3s. Alex From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Fri Jul 30 10:58:44 2010 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (Adam Prime) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:58:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <4C5312D4.4010304@utoronto.ca> They took a lot of video, but i haven't seen any annoucement of it getting posted. best place to get an answer is probably #yapc on irc. On 10-07-30 01:45 PM, Alex Beamish wrote: > How about the talks themselves? I'd love to get some of the talks as > podcasts or MP3s. > > Alex > _______________________________________________ > toronto-pm mailing list > toronto-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/toronto-pm From olaf at vilerichard.com Fri Jul 30 11:00:06 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:00:06 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: <8FB68D91-D63F-465C-A2AE-BD8375779FA2@vilerichard.com> On 2010-07-30, at 1:45 PM, Alex Beamish wrote: > How about the talks themselves? I'd love to get some of the talks as > podcasts or MP3s. > > Alex > That brings this blog post to mind: http://blogs.perl.org/users/leo_lapworth/2010/07/for-speakers-at-perl-conferences.html Olaf -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From olaf at vilerichard.com Fri Jul 30 11:07:10 2010 From: olaf at vilerichard.com (Olaf Alders) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:07:10 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: <4C5312D4.4010304@utoronto.ca> References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> <4C5312D4.4010304@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: On 2010-07-30, at 1:58 PM, Adam Prime wrote: > They took a lot of video, but i haven't seen any annoucement of it getting posted. best place to get an answer is probably #yapc on irc. http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=44987&cid=72217 -- Olaf Alders olaf at vilerichard.com http://vilerichard.com -- folk rock http://twitter.com/vilerichard http://cdbaby.com/cd/vilerichard From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 11:39:49 2010 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:39:49 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > On 2010-07-30, at 1:06 PM, Quantum Mechanic wrote: > > > Are the YAPC::NA 2010 presentations online somewhere? > > > > I heard Damian's Perl6 presentation was interesting. > > > They're actually listed on the Wiki. If there's a "talk" link next to the > actual talk name, that's generally the way to find the slides: > > http://yapc2010.com/yn2010/talks > > Hmmm, the first few I looked for either don't have talks, or direct me to the conference store. I don't have a login, and can't seem to get one. But there are other talks that have slides. Thanks. -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Fri Jul 30 11:44:44 2010 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:44:44 -0400 Subject: [tpm] YAPC::NA 2010 Presentations online somewhere? In-Reply-To: References: <420FDAA1-C969-4280-BFC7-8951EB5C4B40@vilerichard.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Quantum Mechanic < quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Olaf Alders wrote: > >> On 2010-07-30, at 1:06 PM, Quantum Mechanic wrote: >> >> > Are the YAPC::NA 2010 presentations online somewhere? >> > >> > I heard Damian's Perl6 presentation was interesting. >> >> >> They're actually listed on the Wiki. If there's a "talk" link next to the >> actual talk name, that's generally the way to find the slides: >> >> http://yapc2010.com/yn2010/talks >> >> > Hmmm, the first few I looked for either don't have talks, or direct me to > the conference store. I don't have a login, and can't seem to get one. > > But there are other talks that have slides. Thanks. > > Update: The "Talk" link for some of Damian's slots were leftovers for indicating attendance. According to the organizers, none of this content is available outside of the conference. -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: